gtx570vs6970vs6950vs5870 all overclocked review> gtx570 wins

[happy medium]

I really enjoyed this review. I hope we see more like it. Mabe with a gtx580,480 and 5850 in the mix.

Conclusion:
"When we looked at the 6900 series on launch day we saw that generally the GTX 570 was faster than the 6970 with the 6850 a little further behind. When we overclock the cards and run them through a selection of games the Gigabyte GTX 570 still managed to come out on top for most of the tests however the 6970 did close the gap a little under these enhanced configurations."



http://www.hardwareheaven.com/revie...5870-all-overclocked-review-introduction.html

 

[Idontcare]

obligatory "sample size = 1" quip

Haven't read reviews at hardwareheaven in ages, they get +1 style points for the supercool graph layout.

Back to the point of sample-size, does anyone out there do reviews where they secure say 10 cards of the same SKU and generate any kind of statistics regarding the distribution in OC results?

 

[badb0y]

GTX 570 Better than the 6970 and the 6950

but

Look at the 5870 STILL hanging around after what 14-15 months lol.

Also th Radeons are limited by CCC limit I think.

 

[bryanW1995]

not that i've seen, best way that I've found is to just look at oc results from lots of sites. I agree that more data is needed to achieve a definitive conclusion for an unbiased 3rd party. however, if a party was not unbiased then one might be enough I suppose.

 

[Elfear]

Also the Radeons are limited by CCC limit I think.

Correct. Hopefully an app is made soon that will unlock the cap.

 

[happy medium]

Look at the 5870 STILL hanging around after what 14-15 months lol.

I was surprised with that as well. The 6950 card pulls ahead nicley with the tessalation games though. Thats a good sign.

 

[cusideabelincoln]

Man you really care about the green winning.

on launch day we saw that generally the GTX 570 was faster than the 6970 with the 6850 a little further behind. When we overclock the cards and run them through a selection of games the Gigabyte GTX 570 still managed to come out on top for most of the tests however the 6970 did close the gap a little under these enhanced configurations."

Not bad with the Powertune cap. The chips themselves should reach higher speeds.

Hawx 2 And F1 2010 are the only games showing any kinds of perceptible difference. The 6970 wins one and the 570 wins one.


Re: "Man you really care about the green winning."

Please review some sage advice:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=30265290&postcount=81

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=30751385&postcount=217

Not looking for perfection, but just a reminder to please do what you can to avoid the trappings of stereotyping or categorizing your fellow forum colleagues.

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[MentalIlness]

I have read probably 15 reviews, so i'll take these results with a box of Morton salt until other review sites overclock these cards and pretty much have the same conclusion.

 

[happy medium]

I have read probably 15 reviews, so i'll take these results with a box of Morton salt until other review sites overclock these cards and pretty much have the same conclusion.

Its a rare review to have the overclocked 5870 in the mix, thats what interested me the most.

I usually dont see many overclocked vs overclocked reviews at all, especially this early.

These guys need a maximum overclocking lesson with all the cards IMHO.

 

[RockinZ28]

Too bad they didn't do 2560x1600, would have liked to have seen that.

HD5870 was an awesome card, and it shall be placed into my 2nd pc for 1080p plasma gaming, HD6970 is getting the 25x16 display. That's the only reason I picked it over the GTX570.

And tbh, if my 2nd pc had already had a decent card, I'd have sat this round out.

 

[thilanliyan]

They already had the GTX570 ahead of the 6970 according to their statement about their original review so the same holding true once overclocked isn't very surprising. Of course, other sites had the 6970 ahead of the GTX570 stock for stock so....

 

[Daedalus685]

At least overclockign the 6970 seems easy...

Step 1: Slide power bar all the way to the right.
Step 2: Slide the clock bar all the way to the right.

Enjoy.

They had the same silly constraints on my 4870s and 4890s as well. Someone will come out with a modified bios and so forth to fix it. They likely do it to allow the higher clocked partner boards to compete better. I've got a 6970 on the way to play with in the next couple of days anyway.

 

[happy medium]

They already had the GTX570 ahead of the 6970 according to their statement about their original review so the same holding true once overclocked isn't very surprising. Of course, other sites had the 6970 ahead of the GTX570 stock for stock so....

And the original review is just awesome...

See my other thread.

 

[Mistwalker]

Even overclocked the cards pretty much fall into the same pattern as stock.

Single card/1920x1200 (or lower) and the 570 is what you're looking for. I don't think any amount of overclocking will change that.

 

[Rifter]

You really need higher res results and more samples to draw any conclusions. I think at this point in time from what i have seen so far which is not alot(need more reviews badly) the 570/580 are better at 1080p and the 6950/6970 are better at 2560x1600 or above(surround view/eyefinity).

Either way they both seem like good cards.

 

[happy medium]

You really need higher res results and more samples to draw any conclusions. I think at this point in time from what i have seen so far which is not alot(need more reviews badly) the 570/580 are better at 1080p and the 6950/6970 are better at 2560x1600 or above(surround view/eyefinity).

Either way they both seem like good cards.

Gtx cards handle high res 2500x1600 just fine. The gtx580 is faster at 2500x1600 or at best a tie. The gtx 570 beats the 6950.

surround/eyefinity the gtx cards don't miss a beat.

Check my other thread.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2128305

 

[Riek]

Gtx cards handle high res 2500x1600 just fine. The gtx580 is faster at 2500x1600 or at best a tie. The gtx 570 beats the 6950.

surround/eyefinity the gtx cards don't miss a beat.

Check my other thread.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2128305

in that context the 69xx handles 19xx and lower fine also. different reviews different outcomes.

That said, the oc benchmarks are a bit useless since the 69xx series are capped by the drivers and the neither cards are pushed to the limit in oc.

 

[Dribble]

You read that review and think tbh they could have just stuck a vapour cooler and better tessellator on the 5870 and not bothered with the 69xx. It would have been lower power and just as fast.

The 6970 is also looking a bit pointless - performance is so close to the 6950 you think why bother? You can get away with it if it is the *top* performing card as people will always pay more for that, but being as the GTX 580 is that card then can't see why anyone would buy a 6970 when the 6950 is so much cheaper?

 

[badb0y]

You read that review and think tbh they could have just stuck a vapour cooler and better tessellator on the 5870 and not bothered with the 69xx. It would have been lower power and just as fast.

The 6970 is also looking a bit pointless - performance is so close to the 6950 you think why bother? You can get away with it if it is the *top* performing card as people will always pay more for that, but being as the GTX 580 is that card then can't see why anyone would buy a 6970 when the 6950 is so much cheaper?

That's stupid, AMD is probably going to run with this new shader design for the next four years. Like I said before, remember the crap known as HD 2900? Well his great grandson was the HD 5870 which is still chilling with top end cards according to the OC results posted in the OP.

Also the reason why people reccommend AMD cards past the 19x10 res is because the higher the resolution goes the closer GTX 580 and AMD 6970 converge in performance so why not buy the cheaper card for what like 5R% performance lost.

 

[Triggaaar]

Gtx cards handle high res 2500x1600 just fine. The gtx580 is faster at 2500x1600 or at best a tie. The gtx 570 beats the 6950.

So the gtx580 is about the same (a tie) as a card costing $140 less. And the gtx570 beats another card that's cheaper. But the 6970 clearly beats the 570 (at the res you're talking about).

surround/eyefinity the gtx cards don't miss a beat.

What? Don't miss a beat - it's really tricky getting that third screen to work properly on a gtx card.

 

[Mistwalker]

Gtx cards handle high res 2500x1600 just fine. The gtx580 is faster at 2500x1600 or at best a tie. The gtx 570 beats the 6950.

Like I said before: the moment you bring up the 580 in these comparisons, you've already lost.

The $500 card being faster or sometimes tying the $370 card? The $350 card beating the $300 card?

If you can't resist going on defense, just mention the GTX cards manage well enough at higher resolutions. Resist the urge to somehow declare victory against red every single time, it leads to some pretty fantastic statements.

 

[RaistlinZ]

I'm a bit dissapointed in the 6970 as well, especially considering the delays. If you don't "need" 2GB of RAM then the 570 is a much better buy I think. It'll be interesting to see how the 560 compares to the 6950. It'll certainly be much cheaper.

 

[Riek]

I'm a bit dissapointed in the 6970 as well, especially considering the delays. If you don't "need" 2GB of RAM then the 570 is a much better buy I think. It'll be interesting to see how the 560 compares to the 6950. It'll certainly be much cheaper.

It can only be cheaper if it doesn't use the die of the 5xx series. it can only perform on par with such a die. (since 6950 is just below the 570 atm).

 

[Piano Man]

I really enjoyed that review. Charts and setups were great. The performance difference between the 5870 and 6950 is marginal at best. The price of the 6950 needs to come down 20-25 bucks for it to make sense. The 6970 needs to be 350 to compete against the 570 as well.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I see a bunch of cards that you wouldn't be able to tell much (any?) real world difference when using one vs. another. It also tells me that for my budget there is no reason to get rid of this 5870 any time soon.