GTX580 reviews thread

T2k · Nov 8, 2010

busydude said:
back ot, nvidia did a good job with this release. I am happy as a consumer to see some competition.. Which eventually drive down prices.

this.

Aristotelian · Nov 8, 2010

T2k said:
With less trannies? Unlikely.

Isn't the transistor count on a 580 less than that on a 480? The TPU review is getting smashed I guess, I can't even load their page.

In any case if I'm right that a 580 has less transistors (I believe 3.0billion versus 3.2billion on the 480) and is faster than a 480, then it's entirely possible that a 570 could be roughly 480 performance (as happy medium said).

If they can put two 570s on a card and have it fit the power specification, then it certainly could be quite a monster. I'm not sure why there is a debate over this?

zerocool84 · Nov 8, 2010

The link doesn't seem to be working for me at all.

busydude · Nov 8, 2010

zerocool84 said:
The link doesn't seem to be working for me at all.

Its down now.. I just accessed it like 20 mins back.

tviceman · Nov 8, 2010

cusideabelincoln said:
Furmark is useless, and their Crysis test does not give me what I want in the average.

Let me clarify, since you obviously didn't get what I was saying: I want the maximum power consumption under a typical gaming situation. You are right AT already does this with the Crysis test. However I also want the average power consumption over time. So AT could log the power usage over a 5 minute Crysis demo. This will incorporate the highs, lows, and middles of power consumption for a typical card. With this information you can more accurately estimate total energy useless; you can't just use the maximum or peak value to do this.

I'm really shocked why a few of you didn't get what I was saying. I first said Furmark was useless. Then I said I wanted maximum values. I should have spelled it out for you guys, but I meant maximum under a gaming situation, not maximum under Furmark. Because... yeah... I stated with vehemence that Furmark was useless... Jesus.

Let me clarify, since you obviously have temper issues.... breath in... breath out... woosaw.... maybe you need a up your meds but a small misunderstanding shouldn't be setting you over the edge to the point of "shock" and "Jesus." Maybe you're just having a bad day.

tviceman · Nov 8, 2010

Aristotelian said:
Isn't the transistor count on a 580 less than that on a 480? The TPU review is getting smashed I guess, I can't even load their page.

In any case if I'm right that a 580 has less transistors (I believe 3.0billion versus 3.2billion on the 480) and is faster than a 480, then it's entirely possible that a 570 could be roughly 480 performance (as happy medium said).

If they can put two 570s on a card and have it fit the power specification, then it certainly could be quite a monster. I'm not sure why there is a debate over this?

Why wouldn't they just down clock to 580's and put both on 1 card?

Aristotelian · Nov 8, 2010

tviceman said:
Why wouldn't they just down clock to 580's and put both on 1 card?

I don't have a reason beyond precedent: the recent example of the 5970, that had two 5850s. If AMD's chips used less power and so forth, I thought it would just be far more likely that since they didn't put their flagship chip x2 on the same board, that Nvidia wouldn't be able to as well. But you're right, who knows?

blastingcap · Nov 8, 2010

zerocool84 said:
The link doesn't seem to be working for me at all.

The entire site is down.. you can't even reach www.techpowerup.com right now. But I visited earlier today and am sure somebody took screenshots or something. It doesn't really matter, though, because what people are saying is generally true: it's about 15% faster than GTX480 in most games (e.g., 14% faster in BFBC2) and 20% faster in a few games like Metro 2033, at 19x12, with 4xAA. It's a modest rearchitecting GF100 to fix some of their hardware problems... or should I say, TSMC's 40nm problems... so that it uses less power and is clocked higher, with all cores activated.

Something to note though: the Cat 10.7 drivers broke crossfire so it's meaningless to compare 5970@Cat 10.7 versus GTX480. TPU needs to update that Cat to 10.10 and rebench the 5970.

In other words, the rumor mill was right yet again as the time drew near launch. Right down to the core clocks, memory clocks, official TDP, etc.

P.S. Still no single-GPU Surround. Bummer. I hope Kepler has it, or I'm going to stay AMD by default yet again. Seriously, NV, some people HATE multi-GPU and won't touch it, so get your Surround working on one GPU!

Ares1214 · Nov 8, 2010

Its a good card, but it was overhyped. Most people i feel were expecting more than 10-15% more performance than the 580. The wattage and temps are nice, but lets be honest here, the 580 isnt competing against the 480 much, and not much looks bad compared to the 480 in an efficiency standpoint. The main competition will be the 6970. It seems like it will outperform it, and the power and temps might swing with the smaller die as well. I thought it would be closer. We havent seen the 6970 yet, but ive changed my guess from inseperable between the 580 and 6970, to a win for the 6970.

Skurge · Nov 8, 2010

tviceman said:
Why wouldn't they just down clock to 580's and put both on 1 card?

Thats going to be hard to do as it already uses more power than a 5970.

nitromullet · Nov 8, 2010

T2k said:
Bingo. If it's smaller then it's the admission their original architecture (Fermi) is a complete hackjob. If it isn't it's even worse because that means they shouldn't have released it at all...

It's the norm for improvements to be made in hardware over time. It would be wrong for it to be otherwise.

The fact of the matter is that AMD and NVIDIA are by far the best at what they do. This is evidenced by the number of companies they have both put by the wayside over the years. So far the Radeon 6-series looks good (anxiously awaiting Cayman), and it's good to see that NV is going to put up a fight this holiday season. I don't see why anyone who claims to be a video card enthusiast would want it any other way.

Sentry2 · Nov 8, 2010

Aristotelian said:
I don't have a reason beyond precedent: the recent example of the 5970, that had two 5850s. If AMD's chips used less power and so forth, I thought it would just be far more likely that since they didn't put their flagship chip x2 on the same board, that Nvidia wouldn't be able to as well. But you're right, who knows?

The 5970 has two 1,600sp chips clocked at 725MHz(not 1,440).

The GTX 580 looks decent but honestly, imo, this year has been kinda lame for high end gpus(unless the 6970 completely smokes the 580). Mid range is sure looking good though. Might be holding onto these 470s a bit longer than I thought... $234 shipped (x2) is pretty hard to beat for the money and they run great @ 760MHz (1.025v), stock cooler with the fan on auto.

nitromullet · Nov 8, 2010

zerocool84 said:
The link doesn't seem to be working for me at all.

busydude said:
Its down now.. I just accessed it like 20 mins back.

Yeah, I have a prediction for the GTX 680 launch: TPU doesn't get one! :awe:

Aristotelian · Nov 8, 2010

Sentry2 said:
The 5970 has two 1,600sp chips clocked at 725MHz(not 1,440).

Thanks for the correction!

happy medium · Nov 8, 2010

BFG10K said:
The noise levels are impressively low.

I just hope that thermal limiting doesn't impact games (or even better, can be disabled).

No its just for Furmark and can be disabled. As per review.

Sentry2 · Nov 8, 2010

aristotelian said:
thanks for the correction!

np!

dguy6789 · Nov 8, 2010

Not impressed. Nvidia's newest, most advanced, top of the line card is slower than a year old card. *yawn*

Lonyo · Nov 8, 2010

happy medium · Nov 8, 2010

dguy6789 said:
Not impressed. Nvidia's newest, most advanced, top of the line card is just as fast than a year old dual card. *yawn*

fixed

blastingcap · Nov 8, 2010

dguy6789 said:
Not impressed. Nvidia's newest, most advanced, top of the line card is slower than a year old card. *yawn*

Some of us hate multi-GPU.

Dark_Archonis · Nov 8, 2010

dguy6789 said:
Not impressed. Nvidia's newest, most advanced, top of the line card is slower than a year old card. *yawn*

Comparing a dual GPU card to a single GPU card. Right, that makes a lot of sense /sarcasm.

Lonyo · Nov 8, 2010

Dark_Archonis said:
Comparing a dual GPU card to a single GPU card. Right, that makes a lot of sense /sarcasm.

It does when they are both a single PCIe slot (or 2 'slots') so neither requires a 'special' motherboard, and when both (theoretically) will be available for $500.

What's not valid about the comparison?

(And the fact NV doesn't have a dual GPU card out doesn't invalidate the comparison, they've had time to produce one too. People also commented that the GTX480 didn't manage to beat the GTX295 in many situations).

AnandThenMan · Nov 8, 2010

Lonyo said:
What's not valid about the comparison?

It's not valid because it beats the 580. :hmm:

People buy performance (I would hope) not the number of GPUs on the card. And when Cayman beats the 580, some people will say just wait for Nvidia's dual GPU card.

MrK6 · Nov 8, 2010

Lonyo said:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1061446/580avp.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1061446/580bfbc.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1061446/580BForge.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1061446/580cod.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1061446/580dow.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1061446/580crysis.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1061446/580dirt2.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1061446/580FC2.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1061446/580hawx.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1061446/580metro.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1061446/580ridd.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1061446/580stalker.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1061446/580supcom.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1061446/580ut3.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1061446/580wow.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1061446/580uni.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1061446/580pwridle.png
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1061446/580pwravg.png
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1061446/580pwrpeak.png
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1061446/5801920rel.png
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1061446/5802560rel.png
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1061446/580fanload.png

Some are missing because I didn't have the page (Call of Juarez) or they are useless (3D Mark).
Also some summary graphs because I got lazy.

Thanks for uploading those, I missed the review while it was up.

Overall, yeah, yawn. I hope the 6970 is more impressive.

happy medium · Nov 8, 2010

Lonyo said:
It does when they are both a single PCIe slot (or 2 'slots') so neither requires a 'special' motherboard, and when both (theoretically) will be available for $500.

What's not valid about the comparison?

Well if you ask 100 smart people on this forum if they would rather have a single card solution or a sli/crossfire solution, I'm sure 100 of them will chose the single card solution. There are many reasons for this and you know most of them.

First one being upgradability. Quadfire x or gtx580's in sli? Thats a no-brainer.

GTX580 reviews thread

Golden Member

Golden Member

Lifer

Diamond Member

Diamond Member

Diamond Member

Golden Member

Diamond Member

Senior member

Diamond Member

Diamond Member

Senior member

Diamond Member

Golden Member

Lifer

Senior member

Diamond Member

Lifer

Lifer

Diamond Member

Member

Lifer

Diamond Member

Diamond Member

Lifer