GTX680, images from THG review leaked

[Olikan]

Was that the only benchmark where the results were like that or was it that way for many of them? If it's just one it's probably just some weird aberration, possibly due to different test systems or a mix up in the data.

maybe this clears out...





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[f1sherman]

I thought everyone likes winners :hmm:

why so much angst in the case of 680

If 680 wins, 7000 prices again become trailer-trash friendly, and then we all win :thumbsup:

 

[Vesku]

nV has always given better value than AMD except 5800s and 9700pro and they never charged $600 for top card and $359 for middleware like 7870.

Need a sarcasm tag on that.

 

[-Slacker-]

I thought everyone likes winners :hmm:

why so much angst in the case of 680

If 680 wins, 7000 prices again become trailer-trash friendly, and then we all win :thumbsup:

Yeah ... with the recent troll wars and flame baiting in the VCG section, this really can't be allowed to be here. Reported.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Umm no... there's a few games that use more than 2GB at 2560x1600. Skyrim with mods for one. Not regretting my 7970 at all after seeing these benches. I've had the same performance for months, albeit at a slightly more expensive price but an extra $50 is nothing when we're up to $500.

skyrim with mods does not count as a retail game, which was my stipulation

with enough modding you can get any game to break any configuration of hardware, including your 3GB 7970

 

[Grooveriding]

I think modded Skyrim and Shogun 2 are the only games I have heard of and experienced that exceed 2GB @ 1600P. I was playing Skyrim with some new mods and wondering wtf was happening when I was getting little freezes when turning around outside - vram wall. I just put up with it as it's not too bad and I prefer the IQ improvements.

I think 3GB of VRAM is only an advantage for eyefinity/surround, where you can actually use that much memory if you plan to play on ultra settings and/or use AA.

 

[Ares1214]

I think modded Skyrim and Shogun 2 are the only games I have heard of and experienced that exceed 2GB @ 1600P. I was playing Skyrim with some new mods and wondering wtf was happening when I was getting little freezes when turning around outside - vram wall. I just put up with it as it's not too bad and I prefer the IQ improvements.

I think 3GB of VRAM is only an advantage for eyefinity/surround, where you can actually use that much memory if you plan to play on ultra settings and/or use AA.

I have 1200 hours in Shogun II, and play heavily modded Skyrim, so I might wanna consider upgrading my 4890 to a 3 GB+ card...

 

[Mopetar]

GK100/110 is the high end card, this is simply Nvidia's mid ranged card, it just happened to smacking around AMD's top end gpu.

If GK110 isn't going to be here until fall, then GK104 is the de facto high end card, because there's nothing better than it and won't be for a while. Otherwise you might as well say that the 8000 series is really AMD's high end card.

Assuming GK100 was canceled, nVidia tried to make a higher-end card, but for whatever reason was unable to do so. That GK104 looks to perform so well suggests that nVidia's design was probably very aggressive and with a new process that can lead to problems.

maybe this clears out...

Not really. The point was that in the leaked 680 benchmarks the performance of the 7970 was worse than the results from the 7970 benchmarks that previously existed. Normally one would expect performance to only get better as drivers improve.

I wanted to know if that was the only benchmark where that occurred, in which case it's probably just a simple mistake where someone entered the wrong data when making the chart, or if it had occurred in several other benchmarks as well, in which case there's something strange going on.

 

[chimaxi83]

skyrim with mods does not count as a retail game, which was my stipulation

with enough modding you can get any game to break any configuration of hardware, including your 3GB 7970

lol always a stipulation to put something else in a favorable light.

As far as the games I play (MY stipulation), there are no mods to Battlefield 3, no mods to The Witcher 2, no mods to Deus Ex HR, no mods to Metro 2033, no mods to any of the Mass Effect titles, and no mods to DCS A-10C or Black Shark that will "break" anything on my 7950, whatever that means. So yea, no.

 

[Don Karnage]

Very Impressive Nvidia. I smell a price cut coming from Amd

 

[imported_Smurf]

I mirrored the files. My reasons are:
1) The scumbag who stole the information is making money off someone elses hard work.
2) The website is riddled with malware.
3) It was miserable sifting through those links.

I will remove the images as soon as Tom's Hardware makes them available. Until then... the genie is already out of the bottle.

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[Smartazz]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2222

Now stop trolling!

Also take into consideration that anything below the 8800GTS(G80) was pretty crappy. I spent over $400 on an 8800GTS that generation because the mid range 8600s were so bad in comparison. Only time I've ever spent that much on a video card, but it lasted for a very long time.

 

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[BallaTheFeared]

If GK110 isn't going to be here until fall

Doesn't matter when it gets here. The point was in a comparison of 7970 vs 680 in compute the 680 will never be a workstation card and neither will the 7970 so the comparison is moot.

 

[BFG10K]

This is looking good to me. It’s faster than the GTX580 while being cooler, quieter and using less power. It also looks a lot quieter than the 7970 under load.

Also I don’t care at all about DP performance – they could remove all of the transistors for it for all I care.

 

[Eugene86]

Reading this thread is so entertaining. There are so many butt hurt AMD fanboys right now. Just face it, the 680 beats the 7970 where it matters, which is 1080p gaming. Nobody cares about the 1600p performance except for the miniscule amount of people who actually own an extremely high res monitor, so stop using this one and only performance comparison where the 7970 actually has a chance to show that the 680 "is a let down".

This release by nvidia is great. Tons of new features and a great performance increase over the last generation. The 7970 beat the 580 by about 20% while the 680 beats the 7970 by another 20% or so. This means that the 680 has a performance improvement of almost 50% over the last generation, never mind the fact that it uses less power and produces less heat as well.

 

[imported_Smurf]

I am *very* grateful Tom's Hardware included a GTX 590 in the mix. That beast is pretty close to my SLI 570's. I'm impressed by the 680's performance, but this is definitely a mid-range card. (Due to poor performance at high resolution.) My monitor has 2560x1600 resolution, at which the 680 doesn't even come close to beating the 590's performance.

I'm going to yank my Revodrive and OC these 570's.

 

[Grooveriding]

Reading this thread is so entertaining. There are so many butt hurt AMD fanboys right now. Just face it, the 680 beats the 7970 where it matters, which is 1080p gaming. Nobody cares about the 1600p performance except for the miniscule amount of people who actually own an extremely high res monitor, so stop using this one and only performance comparison where the 7970 actually has a chance to show that the 680 "is a let down".

This release by nvidia is great. Tons of new features and a great performance increase over the last generation. The 7970 beat the 580 by about 20% while the 680 beats the 7970 by another 20% or so. This means that the 680 has a performance improvement of almost 50% over the last generation, never mind the fact that it uses less power and produces less heat as well.

Agreed with all but the first bolded juvenile crap and the second which is bull. Nvidia delivered twice the performance increase on 60nm and 40nm that they have on 28nm.

This card is impressive because it raised the bar @ 1080p and being the fastest card is worth something. Bringing new levels of performance that were not available before is awesome. It's a subpar nvidia flagship though imo, and using Tom's results, is less of an improvement over the 580 than the 7970 was over the 6970.

Yeah I care about 1600P, so I guess I am biased. :sneaky: Also, very surprised at nvidia shifting their emphasis from delivering the most performance they can, to lower performance but more efficiency. I don't like noise/heat, but don't care about power consumption, power is cheap in Canada - we make tons of it

 

[badb0y]

Are they selling their $500 gpu in a $3000+ card market, have they finally managed to create software support and put teachers in class rooms to teach their code? Also lol @ openCL.

GK100/110 is the high end card, this is simply Nvidia's mid ranged card, it just happened to smacking around AMD's top end gpu.

GTX 680 is mid range?

 

[bunnyfubbles]

lol always a stipulation to put something else in a favorable light.

As far as the games I play (MY stipulation), there are no mods to Battlefield 3, no mods to The Witcher 2, no mods to Deus Ex HR, no mods to Metro 2033, no mods to any of the Mass Effect titles, and no mods to DCS A-10C or Black Shark that will "break" anything on my 7950, whatever that means. So yea, no.

all in one fell swoop you're completely missing the point I was trying to make as well as reinforcing my argument: without mods the VRAM advantage of a 7900 is moot when playing those games on a single monitor (also these games will be faster on a 680 unless you're running multiple monitors, again, because there are no mods the extra VRAM will not help)

 

[Keysplayr]

I think modded Skyrim and Shogun 2 are the only games I have heard of and experienced that exceed 2GB @ 1600P. I was playing Skyrim with some new mods and wondering wtf was happening when I was getting little freezes when turning around outside - vram wall. I just put up with it as it's not too bad and I prefer the IQ improvements.

I think 3GB of VRAM is only an advantage for eyefinity/surround, where you can actually use that much memory if you plan to play on ultra settings and/or use AA.

It was good enough for 6950 and 6970 2GB models. In Crossfire that is.

 

[chimaxi83]

GTX 680 is mid range?

That's being thrown around here as fact, left and right. And left again.