GTX680, images from THG review leaked

[Olikan]

Not really sure where aim is...
Are you serious or... BF3 with ultra settings and 4xAA, Metro 2033, ect. ect.

So, yeah. The 570 can handle everything if your not a pristine pirate

my point was that, 1080p isn't really stressfull for a high end gpu... where kepler performs the best

 

[Ieat]

Legit question here: do you have a link/source?

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1681041

Read the OP for the msrp and kyle later talks about the leaks. Page 3 of the thread I think.

 

[blastingcap]

While console GPU sales are enormous in volume, the profit margins aren't anything like they are in HPC. Tesla cards cost thousands of dollars. Still, I suspect that HPC isn't a cash cow for Nvidia yet.

Yes and no. Those high margins are made possible by the massive R&D expenditures of the GPU and pro graphics divisions; not sure how high Tesla margins would be if they are apportioned their fair share of the load. So that's a partial no. But it's a partial yes, because I admit that I was using out of date metrics in my comment. Apparently Tesla has grown quite quickly recently. Mobile is up and coming, but Apple is so dominant that it's been tough sledding so far. The chipset business is effectively dead. PS3 will end eventually.

NVidia estimated Tesla revenue at 10, 25, 100MM for FY09-11, and estimates $200MM in revenue for FY2012. Pretty good. NVDA does almost $4 billion of business each year and generates profits in ~$500MM range, so even $100MM is not the drop in the bucket I had thought--for some reason I thought it was still in the $25MM range. It's still relatively small, though.

Trading PS3 and chipset business for HPC might not be so bad after all, if NVDA hits its projections for Tesla for FY12. Would have been nice to power the PS4, though, that's got to hurt. Also, mobile hasn't grown as quickly as they hoped, in part due to Apple's continued mobile dominance, which I'm hoping will change someday.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

Well, it looks like NVIDIA did end up having somewhat of an engineering breakthrough. They realized compute performance doesn't matter for 99% of people buying these cards, and cut its compute performance in order to make a lean, fast, and efficient GPU. It looks like NVIDIA has beat AMD at its game for the first time since three years ago (HD 4000 series).

That being said, from the benchmarks it looks like it'll be around 10% faster on average than the 7970 at 1920x1200 plus 4xAA, but since it's more power efficient and if the pricing is good then NVIDIA have won this generation.

 

[blastingcap]

[H] is confirming that the editor-in-chief at THG said their charts were accessed and these leaks are real. The guys at [H] are also saying the gtx 680 will launch for around $500 msrp.

If that is really the case, then THG screwed up the perf/watt chart. If they messed up on something as simple as that, there is no guarantee that the rest of the charts are accurate, either. Could be non-finalized charts.

Edit: It's funny that in the post that Kyle responds to, the guy he responded to was talking trash about how THG's numbers do not match up with his experiences or those of other review sites. So those charts may just be placeholders and/or may have been deliberately leaked to drum up pagehits or something. I don't have a 7970 to test with, so I don't know firsthand if THG 7970 numbers are accurate or not.

 

[Stuka87]

We don't need another topic locked because of issues AMD fanboys may have

A: I own both nVidia and AMD Products
B: Nowhere did I say anything bad about the card or nVidia
C: THESE ARE POSSIBLY FAKE LEAKS. What I said was 100% with merit. Unless you are saying that these are without a doubt 100% real. It has nothing to do with liking AMD or nVidia, it has to do with people falling for supposed leaks as though they are 100% legit.

Now if on the 27th they turn out to be real, great. Then we can dive into facts. Until then, these are what they are. Leaks/rumors.

 

[busydude]

A: I own both nVidia and AMD Products
B: Nowhere did I say anything bad about the card or nVidia
C: THESE ARE POSSIBLY FAKE LEAKS. What I said was 100% with merit. Unless you are saying that these are without a doubt 100% real. It has nothing to do with liking AMD or nVidia, it has to do with people falling for supposed leaks as though they are 100% legit.

Now if on the 27th they turn out to be real, great. Then we can dive into facts. Until then, these are what they are. Leaks/rumors.

Just a few months back Nemesis was a fan of AMD GPUs. I find him talking about fanboys funny.

 

[Leadbox]

Saw this on XS.org,

Look at the the 7970 #s

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=124718&d=1332274995

 

[Subyman]

A: I own both nVidia and AMD Products
B: Nowhere did I say anything bad about the card or nVidia
C: THESE ARE POSSIBLY FAKE LEAKS. What I said was 100% with merit. Unless you are saying that these are without a doubt 100% real. It has nothing to do with liking AMD or nVidia, it has to do with people falling for supposed leaks as though they are 100% legit.

Now if on the 27th they turn out to be real, great. Then we can dive into facts. Until then, these are what they are. Leaks/rumors.

Fake leaks? I don't see why Tom's would leak fake results.

 

[railven]

Saw this on XS.org,

Look at the the 7970 #s

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=124718&d=1332274995

Now I see why they say AMD drivers suck! D:

Any other charts with such a wide discrepancy?

EDIT: Looking at the chart closer, HD 7950/7970 saw a big drop, HD 6990 - barely a blip.

Interesting...

EDIT #2: Woah, looking at the charts again because my screen is such a low res, the pictures are probably a tad bigger, but if you look at the tip of the Red bar for the GTX 680 - it has some odd discoloration long before the text. Haha. I feel like I should be wearing a tin hat all of a sudden!

 

[blackened23]

Balla, are you giving up 470 sli for these? I'm in for 2, hopefully supply isn't too bad at launch.

 

[Lonyo]

Saw this on XS.org,

Look at the the 7970 #s

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=124718&d=1332274995

So everything else stays almost exactly the same, while the HD7970 and HD7950 lose 10%... hmm...

 

[Crap Daddy]

Balla, are you giving up 470 sli for these? I'm in for 2, hopefully supply isn't too bad at launch.

You are card collector?

 

[Grooveriding]

The card is impressive in that it can do the amount of work it does with so little, but it's like what, 10% faster than a 7970 and is the smallest performance increase nvidia has delivered in their flagship I have ever seen.

The games @ 1080 are less than 40% faster than a 580. For me at my resolution, 2560x1600, it's a wash between the two most of the time. If I were going to buy new cards soon, it would be the 680, but I'm not because this card is a pathetic increase over nvidia's last high end for 2560x1600 gaming; gtx 580.

With just this one review I am seeing it's less than 20% faster than a 580 @ 1600P most of the time.

Nvidia was smart to release later, because the only thing making this card look good is that it is faster than a 7970 making it the top card, but on a quick glance it's a smaller improvement than the 7970 was. If they'd of released this before the 7970 was out it would of gotten flamed just as hard as the 7970 did, they let AMD take the heat lol.

Dons flame suit. Not here to debate it, but this is a 680 by name alone, not performance.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Balla, are you giving up 470 sli for these? I'm in for 2, hopefully supply isn't too bad at launch.

It's under consideration.

The 1600p results are proving to be bothersome to me, not because of the gap between the 7970 and the 680 being closer, but because the frame rates from both sides aren't enough.

My res has 6,372,000 pixels...

2560x1600 is 4,096,000 pixels...

Neither card is really fast enough, I'm going to wait for a few more reviews, and more importantly how the 680 responds to overclocking. The 7970 has already proven it's not faster than what I have currently and soaks up wattage at high clocks making it unfeasible in my setup without water.

I haven't had a chance to really get down to it, I'll be checking more reviews and more importantly user results with highly clocked cpus posting built in benchmark results so I can directly compare them to what I'm currently getting.

If I get the same performance back that I have now, with the option for SLI later on after GF100/110 comes out at a reduce price I'll weigh out several variables and make a choice based on my needs at that time, but right now there just simply isn't enough information available to make a well informed decision.

 

[SolMiester]

i was too...than i read this...

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/review/2162193/nvidias-gtx680-thrashed-amds-mid-range-radeon-hd-7870-gpu-compute

basicly, nvidia traded alot of the gpgpu for gaming performance...

FINALLY, someone realized that DP performance is useless for us...gj nvidia

Interesting to note in that Inquirer review of compute, the 7970 is clocked at 1.3GHz, and the 680 is only clocked at 705mhz, nearly half the speed!..:thumbsdown:

 

[blackened23]

Interesting to note in that Inquirer review of compute, the 7970 is clocked at 1.3GHz, and the 680 is only clocked at 705mhz, nearly half the speed!..:thumbsdown:

I think you misread the chart. That is memory speed, the card is at stock. I don't think gamers care about GPU compute performance anyway.

 

[thilanliyan]

If they'd of released this before the 7970 was out it would of gotten flamed just as hard as the 7970 did, they let AMD take the heat lol.

I doubt that. Remember, nV are allowed to charge a premium. ATI is just for the poor commoners.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Dons flame suit. Not here to debate it, but this is a 680 by name alone, not performance.

you'll get no argument from me, it really is only a 680 in name, and really should be the 660 considering their past trends with design sizes and code names. Granted I'd argue its performance, if these slides really are true, is actually good enough to have donned at 670 title when we consider that it actually can best AMD's flagship at all, if not so thoroughly in single monitor scenarios (particularly 1080p), even though this really isn't nVidia's flagship GPU for this generation. The same cannot be said of the GTX560 or 460 vs. the 6970 or 5870, not even close.

If these numbers are true it would make a lot of the rumors of nvidia's dual GPU card being powered by two GK104s, or that they might not even produce a dual GPU card if GK100/110 (or whatever their ~500+mm^2 design might be) turns out to be just as proportionally beastly as GK104

 

[csemoses]

It seems like Tom's followed the nvidia review guide to a T. The GTX 680 2GB looks like a sure card for 1080p gamers, but my question is - where's the high IQ testing (4xMSAA and 8xMSAA)? Also, why bother testing at 1680x1050 at all? This FXAA garbage that nvidia is pushing is really a turn for the worse. Anyway, looking forward to more reviews.

They test at 1680x1050 because there are a LOT of people out there with 20" or 22" 1680x1050 monitors.

 

[mak360]

I just hope AMD can actually take advantage of nvidia disregarding GPU Compute, something nvidia has always touted. (wtb/ Folding benches).

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[thilanliyan]

They test at 1680x1050 because there are a LOT of people out there with 20" or 22" 1680x1050 monitors.

Really? I thought 1080p was the most common resolution now. If you look at what stores carry nowadays, most are 1080p monitors.

 

[-Slacker-]

Saw this on XS.org,

Look at the the 7970 #s

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I saw it on hardocp, was gonna post it. I'm not sure what to make of it...

 

[mak360]

Think MSI is going for the Goal

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=162729

 

[Lonyo]

They test at 1680x1050 because there are a LOT of people out there with 20" or 22" 1680x1050 monitors.

...who plan to spend $500+ on a new GPU