GTX700 series reviews thread

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Genx87

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I am honestly surprised at the pricing. So does the 770 then fall into the 499 slot?

That said never thought I would say a 649 card actually sounds tempting to purchase.

I have an old GTX 470.
 

Cloudfire777

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There is one fact here that people are forgetting.

THE 780 GTX IS NOT NEW.

Gk110 has been in production for well over 1 year. Basically you are paying cutting edge pricing for a chip thats actually OLD. 28nm is mature and near its end.

This is a stop gap card for the downtime between process shrinks.

This is no different from AMD launching a 1500mhz 7970 for $650 calling it the 8970. Offering 25% more performance.

This GPU should be $500 and not a penny more.

LOL what dreamland do you live in when you think a 1.5GHz 7970 from AMD is even remotely possible?

AMD can`t counter GTX 780. Its that simple. And Nvidia have the market all to themselves until 20nm or new AMD architecture is here. Because AMD is incapable of producing big dies like Nvidia. But that won`t be here until really late this year or next year.
Hence why GK110 exist and Tahiti is AMDs greatest in will continue to be for the rest of the year.
 

amenx

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Only 1 of those resolutions is somewhat playable as the higher rez is a complete slideshow. You get 7 fps more for $250, or 22% higher performance for a 62.5% price increase. 7 fps more for $250 is sad!

If GTX760Ti ~ GTX670 for $299, GTX780 will offer just 10 fps more for $350 more in Crysis 3.
FPS in games at the critical 30fps mark are far more valuable than in games that do 100fps+. People wont care about an extra 7 or even 50 FPS in a COD or Quake game, but they surely would in a Crysis or Metro game.
 

Fx1

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Ahh, the entertainment of fanboys screaming about their favorite video cards. How or why people take this so personally, I will never understand.

I would have more respect for people if they just admitted that this GPU is way overpriced but they are going to buy it anyway just because they want a new GPU and it has to have Nvidia on it.

I have yet to see it though. We see people trying to justify pricing which is funny because they are the ones paying it. Its like people walking into a shop and convincing the girl on the counter that the prices shes charging are worth it. Isnt it supposed to be the other way around?

I think if they can justify it to others then they dont need to justify it to themselves.
 

ams23

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Fx1 said:
This is no different from AMD launching a 1500mhz 7970 for $650 calling it the 8970.

That is a terrible analogy. GK110 has approximately 50% more memory bandwidth (wider interface) and approximately 50% more CUDA "cores" (more SMX's) than GK104, in addition to far more FP64 (double precision) execution units. Not even close to being the same thing.
 

Jaydip

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This card should have been $549-$599.There is no reason to pay the GK110 tax when even the dp performance isn't there.
 

Fx1

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LOL what dreamland do you live in when you think a 1.5GHz 7970 from AMD is even remotely possible?

AMD can`t counter GTX 780. Its that simple. And Nvidia have the market all to themselves until 20nm or new AMD architecture is here. Because AMD is incapable of producing big dies like Nvidia. But that won`t be here until really late this year or next year.
Hence why GK110 exist and Tahiti is AMDs greatest in will continue to be for the rest of the year.

AMD produced a 520mm2 die before so your trolling is total BS yet again.

I didnt say AMD could make a 1500mhz GPU either, so your reading skills are as bad as your trolling.
 

Cloudfire777

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Only 1 of those resolutions is somewhat playable as the higher rez is a complete slideshow. You get 7 fps more for $250, or 22% higher performance for a 62.5% price increase. 7 fps more for $250 is sad!

If GTX760Ti ~ GTX670 for $299, GTX780 will offer just 10 fps more for $350 more in Crysis 3.

The cheapest 7970Ghz is $450 at Newegg. That means GTX 780 offer 22% better performance for 44% extra cost. Please stop with the price/performance BS argument you AMD people always bring up. It never works that way, it never scales that way and it never will.

And 7 extra FPS in Crysis 3 is really great. Looking at other games, you will gain more than 7FPS with 22% extra performance.
 
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Grooveriding

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I am honestly surprised at the pricing. So does the 770 then fall into the 499 slot?

That said never thought I would say a 649 card actually sounds tempting to purchase.

I have an old GTX 470.

770 is going to be $449.
 

Fx1

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The cheapest 7970Ghz is $450 at Newegg. That means GTX 780 offer 22% better performance for 44% extra cost. Please stop with the price/performance BS argument you AMD people always bring up. It never works that way, it never scales that way and it never will.

And 7 extra FPS in Crysis 3 is really great. Looking at other games, you will gain more than 7FPS with 22% extra performance.

Im sorry buy you can buy a 7970 non GE with unlocked voltage for WAY less than the GE. You only have to change the numbers in MSI AB. Also they are clocked at near GE speeds anyway.

So the Price/Perf arguement is way in AMD's favour.
 

Cloudfire777

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AMD produced a 520mm2 die before so your trolling is total BS yet again.

I didnt say AMD could make a 1500mhz GPU either, so your reading skills are as bad as your trolling.

Yeah they did, and AMD failed miserably. Have you seen one lately? No? Why do you think that is? Maybe because GCN at higher core count is ridiulous unefficient? And that GK110 is 20% more efficient than Tahiti ? I guess you didn`t want to know that.
Why do you even bring up such a stupid argument that AMD could release a 1.5GHz 7970 when its not even possible? Are you really that clueless?

Im sorry buy you can buy a 7970 non GE with unlocked voltage for WAY less than the GE. You only have to change the numbers in MSI AB. Also they are clocked at near GE speeds anyway.

So the Price/Perf arguement is way in AMD's favour.

Except price/performance is what only is valid in your little head.
Titan with over 100% more cost for 40% more performance didn`t sell any right? Oh guess what, it did...
You clearly don`t know the market so stop with the BS arguments
 
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Any notion of how long until we'll see a 6 GB version of the GTX 780? How long after launch before the GTX 680 got the 4 GB version?
 

wand3r3r

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The cheapest 7970Ghz is $450 at Newegg. That means GTX 780 offer 22% better performance for 44% extra cost. Please stop with the price/performance BS argument you AMD people always bring up. It never works that way, it never scales that way and it never will.

And 7 extra FPS in Crysis 3 is really great. Looking at other games, you will gain more than 7FPS with 22% extra performance.

There are 7970s with 1050 core at $400 AR.

Keep spinning.
 

Fx1

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Yeah they did, and AMD failed miserably. Have you seen one lately? No? Why do you think that is? Maybe because GCN at higher core count is ridiulous unefficient? And that GK110 is 20% more efficient than 7970GHz? I guess you didn`t want to know that.
Why do you even bring up such a stupid argument that AMD could release a 1.5GHz 7970 when its not even possible? Are you really that clueless?

Im not surprised you cant comprehend my posts when you cant spell "inefficient" How can you explain the intricacies of efficiency when you cant spell it.

Do you think anyone cares about power use when buying desktop GPU's? My next PSU will be 1000w My 7970 runs at 70c on 1125/1700 24/7. Who cares about 30w of power use?

See post #46 in this thread about inflammatory posts & discussing the cards, not the people. Initially, it was your post that was reported, but I infracted the person whose inflammatory post resulted in your reply. Now, it appears you two have continued after a mod post in the thread to stop.

The 1 point infraction has apparently put you over the 10 infraction point threshold and an automatic vacation takes place.

-Admin DrPizza
 
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lilrayray69

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Why'd they release the 780 first in the 700 series? I honestly don't know much about nvidia cards and don't really get it. Usually way outta my price range
 
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I would tend to agree that, especially if you don't have the games, the AMD 7970 is the best performance/value at the moment. Still, the 7970 has a ceiling and if you need better performance than the 7970 can provide, you don't have many other options. I am likely grabbing a couple 780s as I have a triple monitor 5760x1080 setup and my current 7970 struggles to power it. With the Crossfire driver issues, I don't see many other options than turning to Nvidia (other than ditching the three monitor setup). Doesn't mean I love the $650 price but you work with what you got.
 

Jaydip

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Guys can we stop this personal attack BS please, this is a tech forum for god's sake.We have P&N to vent your anger.
 
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Guys can we stop this personal attack BS please, this is a tech forum for god's sake.We have P&N to vent your anger.

Well said. It's amazing the number of petulant children that seem to emerge to take personal offense to anything and everything.
 

Phynaz

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I wouldn't call it hilarious. It's good for Nvidia, not so good for us.

This shows another generation of price / performance not improving.
 

RussianSensation

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The cheapest 7970Ghz is $450 at Newegg.

$400 for a 1.05ghz with a slight underclock on the memory. So make that 25% faster since that version has slightly lower memory bandwidth than the full GE. It's still a 63% price premium for a 25% increase in performance stock / 37% oc against a stock GE that can overclock from 1.05ghz to 1.15-1.2ghz. Anyway, as I said I might have bought one at $500-550 but at $650 I am still waiting for 20nm.
 
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tential

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If that is true then 770 is most likely my target again. I have that upgrade itch and need to scratch it Been 3 years since I have done anything to my computer.

The 770 is the GTX 680 I thought. You can have it now....

Unless I'm mistaken.
 
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