http://hexus.net/tech/items/graphics/55681-gigabyte-geforce-gtx-780-oc-edition-graphics-card/
450Watt cooling :awe:... Gesh.. Should overclock pretty dang good.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GeForce_GTX_780_OC/
Would be good if NV didnt limit 5% powerlimit OC
Not a problem for "enthusiasts".
there is a set amount of chips ready to be unleashed. a number that has bee crunched in millions of ways.Maybe they should but, and when you read this remember that this is speculation on the Finance and Marketing crew of Nvidia.
They most likely believed that by dropping the price from $1000 to $750, they wouldn't sell too many more cards. This is called Price Elasticity, I'll give an example real quick:
At $1000, they believed they'd sell maybe 10,000 cards. $10,000,000 revenue.
At $750 they believed they'd sell maybe 9,000 cards. $6,750,000 revenue.
Price Elasticity is (Change in Price)/(Change in Demand).
From wikipedia "Some luxury products have been claimed to be examples of Veblen goods, with a negative price elasticity of demand: for example, making a perfume more expensive can increase its perceived value as a luxury good to such an extent that sales can go up, rather than down." - I won't say this is the case for Titan at all, and I do believe raising the price decreased demand, but I believe that it's Price Elasticity was VERY low meaning raising the price decreased demand by not too much allowing them to reap more revenue. Once you hit ranges where products are considered "luxury" or "premium" changes in price have a much lower hit on demand. In contrast, if a mid range product of AMD or Nvidia changed even $20 dollars, we'd all change our recommendations immediately. A $20 dollar jump in titan's price though, and it really wouldn't matter.
Hope that helps.
Like most of the reviews say, the gtx780 is only compelling for people on gtx5xx and hd 6xxx cards. I think it's a bit too expensive even for them, but I'm sure people will still buy it.
Anyone with a gtx680 or 7970 would be nuts to pay $650 for this card if you ask me.
everyone please read this, Again if you have to
Is their anyone here who hasnt noticed that nvidia actually knows what they are doing? That they are very successful in the most hostile economic environments? Does anyone think this is by accident? seriously?
They already figured how many they have, how much they need to sell, and what they will get out of them. Nvidia cannot be successful by accident, not quarter after quarter/year over year. They are good at what they do.
it only makes sense that titan has sold at least to their expectations. If not they would have dropped the price and we wouldnt have an expensive 780. Its much more logical that their is a specific amount of chips they have and the price is calculated by that. Its when the stock doesnt move prices drop and projected earnings are adjusted.
I see way to many complaints. why? If this card is priced too high for you, their are tons of other options in your price range. If your mad cause you want new options, there is still several more 700 series cards coming out. I bet everyone of them will be cheaper. I also bet that prices will come down over time like they always do.
I see way to many complaints. why? If this card is priced too high for you, their are tons of other options in your price range. If your mad cause you want new options, there is still several more 700 series cards coming out. I bet everyone of them will be cheaper. I also bet that prices will come down over time like they always do.
People are complaining because they want the card but they don't find value in the pricing. If the price was $200, the price would be really low in the eyes of most people, and people would be talking about what a phenominal value it is. What is the difference? We are discussing the price. If you don't include what you think about the price, what are we discussing then? The thread would be three posts long.
I think the Gigabyte Windforce card @ $649 is a good price if you consider how well it overclocks and the possibility of even higher overclocks with Bios Mod.
it's $649 for Titan performance out of the box. Now I know that still a lot of $$$, but damn.
Making people think a $650 780 GTX is good value because Titan is $1000 is Nvidia marketing at its best.
There is no way people would accept the price of the 780 GTX without the Titan.
Consumers generally fail to see through this.
I understand your logic. But prices are what they are , you can't do anything about it. The only thing you can do is decide what fits your budget and your needs.
At the same time the performance of the GTX 780 is high enough that AMD can’t directly compete with the card, leaving NVIDIA without competition and free to set prices as they would like, and this is exactly what they have done.
$599 would have been nice... a slight premium for a noticeable performance jump. It would have walked the line between too much and just right. But $649, IMO, is just too high. Hopefully 20nm prices won't come out of the gate this high, otherwise peace out PC gaming.
I wouldn't mind some input from some of the GPU enthusiasts in this thread.
I'm putting together a new computer and would like it to last a solid 3-4 years before having to upgrade anything or just build a new comp. This would be primarily a gaming computer at 1080p(although 1440p is a possibility in a couple years), and I'm looking at both the 780 and the 7970.
I understand the 780 isn't the greatest price/perf., but to last 4 years or so, would it be worth it to shell out the extra $$$? Suggestions?
You can do something about it actually.
1) Not buy it. Agreed
2) Help others make informed choices which affect the sales of the overpriced cards thus hurting sales. This would work, but I don't think it would be very easy at all and even enough to stop the higher prices. The GTX 780 is priced so high because there is no competition from the red team. Stock for stock it's not worth the $200 asking price over the 7970 GE. Overclocked and modded I think it is... just my opinion.
I wouldn't mind some input from some of the GPU enthusiasts in this thread.
I'm putting together a new computer and would like it to last a solid 3-4 years before having to upgrade anything or just build a new comp. This would be primarily a gaming computer at 1080p(although 1440p is a possibility in a couple years), and I'm looking at both the 780 and the 7970.
I understand the 780 isn't the greatest price/perf., but to last 4 years or so, would it be worth it to shell out the extra $$$? Suggestions?
Wtf kind of freakonomics is this? How does demand drop when the price is lower lol?
OT: Well, I'll be waiting on 20nm, this card would be much more interesting at $500-$550.
I wouldn't mind some input from some of the GPU enthusiasts in this thread.
I'm putting together a new computer and would like it to last a solid 3-4 years before having to upgrade anything or just build a new comp. This would be primarily a gaming computer at 1080p(although 1440p is a possibility in a couple years), and I'm looking at both the 780 and the 7970.
I understand the 780 isn't the greatest price/perf., but to last 4 years or so, would it be worth it to shell out the extra $$$? Suggestions?
Trying to get longevity out of video cards is a lot harder than CPUs. Video cards improve much faster than CPUs do and have more of an affect on your gaming.
It depends if you are willing to compromise on settings as time goes by or not. GTX780 is $250 more than the 7970 and 20% faster, do you think that 20% is going to help you get further through your four year mark ?
If you're looking for longevity out of a gaming system, usually it's better to buy the best price/perf card now and then buy the best price/perf card in another 2 years from now. You'll end up spending the same amount you would for one $650 card today, but get more performance long term from buying two $300 cards spaced out in the four year span.