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HomerJS

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Capt Bullshut is such a fucking moron. Its simple, any Trump supporter who doesn't denounce Trump for failing to unequivocally denounce white supremacists/Nazis are supporting them therefore are one. By denounce I don't mean ready a prepared statement like a robot that you denounce a few days later. In the list of POTUS tasks this is as easy as pardoning the turkey yet Trump fumbles it every time. Why? Because he doesn't really believe white supremacists are bad people. He tweets things he's passionate about like curing out black NFL players. understanding when it comes to Nazis.

BTW - for non-Trump supporters (sane people) if you express any support for Nazis you are one.

He saves his hostility for people of color yet there is always understanding for Nazis. He can't even help but tweet hostility towards gold star families.
 

senseamp

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
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Real liberals did and do care, don't confuse them with the new generation of Uber, Apple, Silicon Valley social justice liberals that looked down at middle America as uneducated deplorables while looking out for themselves and their stock portfolio, all Trump did is give them the reason they needed to stop pretending they actually cared.
That is a bold faced lie. Silicon Valley voted to raise taxes on itself, consistently and repeatedly, to pay for health care for middle America. We have fantastic company health insurance and don't benefit from Medicaid expansion at all. We derive a large chunk of our compensation from stock capital gains and we voted to raise our capital gains tax rate from 15% to 23.8% (almost 60% increase) to pay for, among other things, Medicaid expansion to rural America. Rural America meanwhile voted repeatedly to deprive themselves of Medicaid expansion in order to cut taxes on us. And now you accuse us of doing what we opposed and you insisted on doing to yourself. If Silicon Valley liberals don't care about you anymore it's because they are trying to help people who insist on screwing themselves. At some point you just give up and say, fine I'll take the tax cut, you deserve what is coming to you.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
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That is a bold faced lie. Silicon Valley voted to raise taxes on itself, consistently and repeatedly, to pay for health care for middle America. We have fantastic company health insurance and don't benefit from Medicaid expansion at all. We derive a large chunk of our compensation from stock capital gains and we voted to raise our capital gains tax rate from 15% to 23.8% (almost 60% increase) to pay for, among other things, Medicaid expansion to rural America. Rural America meanwhile voted repeatedly to deprive themselves of Medicaid expansion in order to cut taxes on us. And now you accuse us of doing what we opposed and you insisted on doing to yourself. If Silicon Valley liberals don't care about you anymore it's because they are trying to help people who insist on screwing themselves. At some point you just give up and say, fine I'll take the tax cut, you deserve what is coming to you.

If you're an ultra wealthy insanely power hungry right wing funder of the Repub party then you're dancing with glee over how stupid people can be...
 

brandonbull

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May 3, 2005
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Capt Bullshut is such a fucking moron. Its simple, any Trump supporter who doesn't denounce Trump for failing to unequivocally denounce white supremacists/Nazis are supporting them therefore are one. By denounce I don't mean ready a prepared statement like a robot that you denounce a few days later. In the list of POTUS tasks this is as easy as pardoning the turkey yet Trump fumbles it every time. Why? Because he doesn't really believe white supremacists are bad people. He tweets things he's passionate about like curing out black NFL players. understanding when it comes to Nazis.

BTW - for non-Trump supporters (sane people) if you express any support for Nazis you are one.

He saves his hostility for people of color yet there is always understanding for Nazis. He can't even help but tweet hostility towards gold star families.

Again with the Nazi crap. Trump has denounced those hate groups way before becoming President and has done the same since being elected. It must be frustrating that your stupid message of "you are a Nazi until you prove that your are not" is not working. I understand that, in your possibly mentally impaired state, the thought of people not supporting your anti-American ideals and not being a Nazi doesn't compute.

So are you saying that Trump tweeted out BLACK and only BLACK players need to be removed from the NFL or explicitly mentioned race? Or is this another one of the MSM attempts to invent random dots and then try to connect them? Since the NFL is 70+% black, I guess it easy to say that he wasn't really referring to white players.

FYI, sane is not a valid adjective for non-Trump supporters. Also, rational people don't need to explicitly state they don't support hate groups because that is a default position. Since we are in the name changing business, how about HomerBS, HomerDS or just plain 'ol Dumbass?
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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What is up with your fascination about USF? I guess when you cannot make a rational point your resort to insults. If the exchanges with you were verbal, I'm sure it would be a constant barrage of yelling and flying spittle from you. Rules of your playbook. Seems like rule #10: You are working to polarize "Trump supporters" by associating them with Richard Spencer types and thus isolating them from sympathy and then attacking those people. You seem to try hard at rule #5 but you should follow rule #7.

The Rules
  1. "Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have." Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. "Have-Nots" must build power from flesh and blood.
  2. "Never go outside the expertise of your people." It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.
  3. "Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy." Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.
  4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules." If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
  5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
  6. "A good tactic is one your people enjoy." They'll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They're doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.
  7. "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag." Don't become old news.
  8. "Keep the pressure on. Never let up." Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.
  9. "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself." Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.
  10. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition." It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.
  11. "If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive." Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.
  12. "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative." Never let the enemy score points because you're caught without a solution to the problem.
  13. "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.

I mention if because you flying that flag is rather embarrassing for your proud institution. I mean, I wonder what the University folks would think about your representation of whatever values you seem to have acquired while matriculating (though perhaps not necessarily ever attending class?)
 

brandonbull

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I mention if because you flying that flag is rather embarrassing for your proud institution. I mean, I wonder what the University folks would think about your representation of whatever values you seem to have acquired while matriculating (though perhaps not necessarily ever attending class?)

I would love to hear about "representation of whatever values you seem to have acquired while matriculating". Please enlighten me. I'm sure you have some doozies from your "You might be a Nazi if.." reference. I bet it reads something like "You might be a Nazi if....zinfamous says so." Case closed, cancel Christmas!
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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Real liberals did and do care, don't confuse them with the new generation of Uber, Apple, Silicon Valley social justice liberals that looked down at middle America as uneducated deplorables while looking out for themselves and their stock portfolio, all Trump did is give them the reason they needed to stop pretending they actually cared.
thats called winning. everyone wins in trumps america.
 

brandonbull

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If you want some ammo you could start questioning his NC State degree and questioning if he ever went to class or not.

Enough ammo when it appears he idolizes an alcoholic. Makes sense for his responses. I'm sure NC State is a fine institution of higher learning and zin graduated magna cum laude which propelled him to unimaginable wealth, knowledge, and a vast assortment of "hotties".
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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I would love to hear about "representation of whatever values you seem to have acquired while matriculating". Please enlighten me. I'm sure you have some doozies from your "You might be a Nazi if.." reference. I bet it reads something like "You might be a Nazi if....zinfamous says so." Case closed, cancel Christmas!

ah, you read this under the lens of me calling you a nazi? is that "the flag" you think I mentioned?

No, I'm referring to the idiot flag, nothing more. I was merely suggesting that the good folks at USF would rather not have their Alumni running around as flag-carrying idiots that refused to engage in the tiniest spec of critical, reflective thought or context-based argument. It's a terrible reputation for a university.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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If you want some ammo you could start questioning his NC State degree and questioning if he ever went to class or not.

eh-hm: "degrees" good sir, and I did make good use of my time. I went to far too many classes, perhaps. :\

Anyway, I choose not to wave the flag of my education, because I know that I am more than capable of making idiotic statements now and then. I don't do so as a badge of honor, of course, like brandonbull. I just find it fascinating that he displays such profound lack of insight...in anything...and also chooses to bring down the purported institute that was tasked with educating him by waving that flag. Humans make associations, especially with others that directly encourage those associations.
 

senseamp

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
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I think we are going to see even more health problems with Trump sabotaging the health care system. Especially rural hospitals in non expansion states, many of which will simply close, taking with them the highest paid medical jobs and local tax base. Then HIV treatment and prevention will be even more of a challenge, and other opportunistic diseases will be spreading in Trump country. But since they voted for it, we have to respect their wishes.
 

brandonbull

Diamond Member
May 3, 2005
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eh-hm: "degrees" good sir, and I did make good use of my time. I went to far too many classes, perhaps. :\

Anyway, I choose not to wave the flag of my education, because I know that I am more than capable of making idiotic statements now and then. I don't do so as a badge of honor, of course, like brandonbull. I just find it fascinating that he displays such profound lack of insight...in anything...and also chooses to bring down the purported institute that was tasked with educating him by waving that flag. Humans make associations, especially with others that directly encourage those associations.

I'm not sure if I have ever stated that I was a matriculating student at USF. I know several people that are fans of universities because they support them for various reasons.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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I'm not sure if I have ever stated that I was a matriculating student at USF. I know several people that are fans of universities because they support them for various reasons.

That's fine. My only real point is that the flag you fly doesn't really bode well for the association.
 

Thunder 57

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Aug 19, 2007
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eh-hm: "degrees" good sir, and I did make good use of my time. I went to far too many classes, perhaps. :\

Anyway, I choose not to wave the flag of my education, because I know that I am more than capable of making idiotic statements now and then. I don't do so as a badge of honor, of course, like brandonbull. I just find it fascinating that he displays such profound lack of insight...in anything...and also chooses to bring down the purported institute that was tasked with educating him by waving that flag. Humans make associations, especially with others that directly encourage those associations.

Ahem, well excuse me for not knowing about your complete education. We all make idiotic statements at times. None of us walks on water. That's why I'm glad we can call each other dimwits or asshats here and no one (usually) gets too upset about it. This country is super partisan right now, probably the most divided it's been since the 60's.

You might think I'm an idiot. You might think brandonbull is an idiot. But there are plenty out there that would think you are an idiot. And please don't respond saying how "I know you're an idiot". At least we all agree on some things, like tech stuff. You and just about everyone else is impressed with Raven Ridge, as am I. That is the kind of chip I would want in my next laptop. Though maybe a higher TDP version.

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Also I see no harm in being proud of your alma mater. Unless of course it's Trump University, or some other nonsense BS for profit place that no one has any respect for. At least people have seemed to wisen up to that, including lawmakers.
 
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