Guildwars 2 Beta Thread

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Arkadrel

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I cant get over the itemisation system of this game.

All weapons are the same, only come in slightly differnt grade qualities.
So within a month or so, everyone is gonna be useing the same Quality grade of weapon(s) and have items identical to each other.

The main thing will be the "look" of your weapons as a reward for doing Raid instances.
Which to me isnt enough, I rather have a more rewarding pve system in place.

This will undoubtly end up makeing GW2 all about the pvp aspect.
The pvp does look okay in it but... just not for me I guess.

I played Aion and stopped after I realised ground pvp was only balanced when you went into the other factions side, and you soon got a insane debuff that killed your stats/movement speed = dead. Why was that a deal breaker? because Air combat wasnt fair to melee classes, ranged classes had to big a advantage, and I usually Rollplay as melee classes in RPGs.

Thats just 1 exsample, but so many pvp mmorpgs mess up the balance with the game and it ends up not being fun. I rather have a good pve focused game (without any pvp in it if needed) than one with bad pve and semi decent pvp.


That said GW2 looks better than alot of MMOs out there atm.
The animations are stunning, the world "look" alive and the lore seems decent too.

The game looks polished and nothing really screams "needs more work before you buy it"
(ei. it doesnt look like a half ready made game, that launches early, while missing content)
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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^ that is nothing different from GW, though. You are not supposed to be limited by gear that one can only obtain through endless, repetitive grinding.

Grinding is still there (in GW, anyway), but it was only for cosmetic wants. Replacing "need" with "want" is pretty cool.


That being said, the equipment in GW2 appears far more important to you class than in GW1--much of your specific build seems tied, quite specifically to weapon attributes. In GW1, they were more general buffs, that didn't really tie into specific skills--just making them more universally efficient. GW2 items have a longer (WoW-like) list of stat buffs that appear to more specifically target certain sets of skills or play styles. On top of that, you activating skills are far, far more limited (amount) than what was available in GW1. There is the trait system, which changes things up quite a bit.

GW2 is both similar but also very, very different from GW1.
Doing away with the "gear grind" was an aim to push GW1 to a skill-based, diverse PvP system, which they began way back with the second stand-alone campaign (Factions). No level grinding, no gear grinding--simply skill through build design.
 

GaiaHunter

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Jul 13, 2008
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I cant get over the itemisation system of this game.

All weapons are the same, only come in slightly differnt grade qualities.
So within a month or so, everyone is gonna be useing the same Quality grade of weapon(s) and have items identical to each other.

The main thing will be the "look" of your weapons as a reward for doing Raid instances.
Which to me isnt enough, I rather have a more rewarding pve system in place.

This will undoubtly end up makeing GW2 all about the pvp aspect.
The pvp does look okay in it but... just not for me I guess.

I played Aion and stopped after I realised ground pvp was only balanced when you went into the other factions side, and you soon got a insane debuff that killed your stats/movement speed = dead. Why was that a deal breaker? because Air combat wasnt fair to melee classes, ranged classes had to big a advantage, and I usually Rollplay as melee classes in RPGs.

Thats just 1 exsample, but so many pvp mmorpgs mess up the balance with the game and it ends up not being fun. I rather have a good pve focused game (without any pvp in it if needed) than one with bad pve and semi decent pvp.


That said GW2 looks better than alot of MMOs out there atm.
The animations are stunning, the world "look" alive and the lore seems decent too.

The game looks polished and nothing really screams "needs more work before you buy it"
(ei. it doesnt look like a half ready made game, that launches early, while missing content)

Really the items aren't really that different from other games with a few exceptions concerning PvP and the fact it is less time consuming to obtain.

In PvP everyone can pick max stats weapons, but that doesn't mean everyone will use the same items because some item will specialize in one aspect while the other will specialize in another. It also means the only way to win is skill and not gear grind making it easier for one stop playing and coming back.

GW2 doesn't have raids, GW2 is moving the raid mechanics and feel to the open world.

So that means players that like crafting will have similar gear to players that like doing open world events and will have similar gear to players that do dungeons or WvW, while in raiding games people that didn't raid not only lose access to more interesting content also lose access to the best items.

Raiding takes time to set up and takes time to get into a decent raiding guild.
 

M0oG0oGaiPan

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digitalgamedeals.com
Just a heads up but you can pick up this game for 25% off at GMG. I don't think you can find the game on their site currently because they're out of keys but it should appear again once they get some more keys.

The voucher code is on their main page.
Greenmangaming.com
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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Just a heads up but you can pick up this game for 25% off at GMG. I don't think you can find the game on their site currently because they're out of keys but it should appear again once they get some more keys.

The voucher code is on their main page.
Greenmangaming.com

wow. what a steal.
 

krnmastersgt

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Jan 10, 2008
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Speaking of deals for pre-orders, you can pre-order it from Newegg for today for $48. That's the kind of deal I was waiting for to throw in my pre-order

Promo code: EMCYTZT1867
 
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krnmastersgt

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Actually something crossed my mind as to why I'm not going to bite on the NE deal. The 3 day head-start is only available if you do an electronic pre-purchase, whereas the NE will count as a pre-order and only get you a 1 day head-start. Doesn't really matter all that much to most people (or me that much either) but I did want to try getting some names that will likely be snagged at launch so
 

Alienwho

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Well, I have jumped onto the GW2 bandwagon thanks to the newegg deal.

I have never played an MMO before because I refuse to pay for monthly access and I don't have the time. From what I've seen GW2 will be perfect for me.

The only bad thing about GW2 is that it's being released 2 weeks before our first baby comes along, so the timing is not quite right. I really wish it was out like, today.

It still looks fun and right for me even if I can only play for 8 hours a week.
 

PowerYoga

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Nov 6, 2001
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With a new baby you're not getting any sleep anyways, so stay up with the little one and grind away!
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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well, those regions are going to be slammed.

I guess I can re-roll a thief for Sylvari, or maybe ranger.
 

diesbudt

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I still cannot wait to play this. I enjoyed GW1, even its lore / PvE even though it was more focused around PvP.
 

VashHT

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I'll probably just make a couple sylvari to see what they look like. I don't want to do too much of the story because I'm going to make my main sylvari now. To me Asura are just the gnomes of GW2 so I'm not really interested in them, I'll play them in the next beta just for the hell of it.
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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I'll probably just make a couple sylvari to see what they look like. I don't want to do too much of the story because I'm going to make my main sylvari now. To me Asura are just the gnomes of GW2 so I'm not really interested in them, I'll play them in the next beta just for the hell of it.

yeah, I have zero interest in the Asura right now. I thought they were alright in GWEN--but as NPCs. Not sure if I would dig going full-on Asura. (their condescending elitism is worth a chuckle every now and then)

I will likely move my Mes over to Sylvari for the general release, so they might be my main, as well.
 

Alienwho

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For the rest of the day you can get GW2 from Greenmangaming for 20% off. Just get their free game on the home page and they'll send you a 20% off code. It lets you play in the beta. I just did this and cancelled my newegg order which didn't let me.
 

krnmastersgt

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Jan 10, 2008
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For the rest of the day you can get GW2 from Greenmangaming for 20% off. Just get their free game on the home page and they'll send you a 20% off code. It lets you play in the beta. I just did this and cancelled my newegg order which didn't let me.

Pretty sure I listed that earlier as to the reason why I didn't do it

Btw for those of you on the fence, just sign up an account with Green Man Gaming and pick up the free game. The voucher for 20% off is good till the end of the month so you can have some time to mull it over, but the free game is only available for a few more hours today so just pick it up! No CC info required when registering an account either, though they do ask for your billing address.
 

pwilson316

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Pretty sure I listed that earlier as to the reason why I didn't do it

Btw for those of you on the fence, just sign up an account with Green Man Gaming and pick up the free game. The voucher for 20% off is good till the end of the month so you can have some time to mull it over, but the free game is only available for a few more hours today so just pick it up! No CC info required when registering an account either, though they do ask for your billing address.
I also cancelled my NewEgg order and grabbed the GMG deal. I can confirm, no CC needed to grab the free game and receive 20% off voucher. Voucher is good until the end of July.

I used it on GW2, but I don't see a key anywhere. Is this something that will come later or am I missing something?
 
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