Guiliani: Trump's tax returns have been audited and settled

[Staples]

I must be the only anti-trumper who does not care at all about his taxes.
I'm much more worried about how he's ruining America than his personal finances.

Well most people feel that there must be damning info contained within and that is why he has fought so hard to keep them sealed. But even if they did say he donated millions to Putin and MBS or whoever (the Saudi guy), he wouldn't lose a single vote. His voters are so brainwashed.

 

[fskimospy]

Get it through your thick head, Mueller found evidence of collusion. But he was never going to charge a sitting president. He punted to Congress.

Yes Trumpity Dumpity got acquitted by a bunch of butt kissers. Hardly a credible win.

Lol Mary is bitter??? She’s the only sane one based on media interviews.

In regards to post after, only the Trumpards believe his defund the police crap. No one in the center and left fall for those lies and know full well Biden supports the police and he wants reform.

Bill Barr did so much damage to this country. It’s amazing that to this day I bet half or more of conservatives think Mueller didn’t find collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians despite the report clearly describing it.

 

[ultimatebob]

What I don't understand is if Trump is so damn wealthy, why isn't he self-financing his campaigns like Bloomberg? Why does a supposed billionaire need my money to get reelected?

 

[hal2kilo]

What I don't understand is if Trump is so damn wealthy, why isn't he self-financing his campaigns like Bloomberg? Why does a supposed billionaire need my money to get reelected?

Some people bought that line hook and sinker.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

I'll admit my compass was off on 2018. What I think is different this time is that the Democratic party has been pulled further left, by the likes of the squad, all the advocacy, civil unrest, etc. People want to defund the police. People have been destroying property, looting and burning, while liberal governors and mayors have pretty much sat on their hands. The picture of today's democratic party appears more fringe than mainstream. The National Association of Police Organizations has endorsed Trump, which means the Democrats have lost law enforcement personnel. Leo Terrell, a civil rights attorney and long time critic of Trump, just announced he will be voting for Trump, blaming all the things I've mentioned. I watched a closed group on FaceBook, that supports Trump go from 24,000 members to almost a million in about 3 weeks. Nobody gets in that group without an invite. Just signs everywhere. Trump has more support from black voters then he had the first time. There has been coalitions of Blacks and Hispanics recruiting new members to the Republican side, using the narrative that democrats who have been in power for decades have done nothing for them. Every election cycle, these people need reinforcement from the party, that they are victims, and falsely, that the Democrats are their saviors. It's not difficult to find many videos from black conservatives, who have awakened and are calling this out.

So, in the end, if I'm wrong again, I'm wrong again, but I hear the pot boiling and I don't think I will be this time.

Man I love positive anecdotal evidence when it comes to anything Trump.

Signs everywhere? How about some data?

Biden is killing Trump in the polls, and this before the economy tanks even more and more people die because of his idiocy.

Good luck with that. Trump is doomed.

 

[ultimatebob]

Man I love positive anecdotal evidence when it comes to anything Trump.

Signs everywhere? How about some data?

Biden is killing Trump in the polls, and this before the economy tanks even more and more people die because of his idiocy.

Good luck with that. Trump is doomed.

I saw a lot of Trump signs in 2016, but not a lot so far this year. That said, I live in Connecticut, and the Democrats in this area seem to be more militant this election cycle. They might be tearing the signs down. I'm not sure either way.

 

[Commodus]

In the meantime, even though the polls favor Biden right now, by the time we get to the general election, Trump is gonna trounce old Joe. This is gonna send the Dems back to the drawing board, trying to dig up more shit to throw. Nothing productive will come from the Democrat's side, no matter what. Nothing bipartisan is going to come from congress. I don't know how in the hell anything ever gets right again as long as two sides are vehemently opposed to each others ideas, if for nothing more than spite. We pay these politicians for being childish, when we should fire them all. Vote all these pricks out, for they serve nobody but themselves.

What's fascinating is your total lack of self-awareness.

You decry hubris on the part of Democrat supporters, yet are convinced that your Dear Leader Trump is guaranteed a second term despite evidence this isn't a 2016 repeat. You claim nothing productive will come from the Democrats, yet full Republican control in the first two years of the Trump administration produced very little (the best was a half-hearted healthcare bill).

The Democrats need some fixing, to be clear, but they stand a real chance of winning in November and at least accept basic concepts like... say, evidence-based decision making. The Republicans cling to theocratic fantasies, practice science denial (although that's fueled in part by industry bribery), scapegoat immigrants, and knowingly condone overt corruption in the Trump administration.

Hell, let's not forget that Mitch McConnell admitted — admitted! — that his policy has been one of strict contrarianism, to oppose whatever the Democrats put forward even if it was something the Republicans would have done themselves. I've seen no such folly on the part of Democrats.

More realistically, bipartisanism will come after a Republican defeat, not a Democrat one. The Dems are the ones willing to negotiate and compromise (within reason); the GOP is more like a spoiled brat who throws a fit if he's forced to make any sacrifice. It won't learn until it's rejected by the country. And simply speaking, the demographic shift in the US is unquestionably toward values the Democrats represent: inclusion, environmental awareness, truly secular government. The Republicans are trying to swim against a tide they can't really change.

 

[Jhhnn]

Man I love positive anecdotal evidence when it comes to anything Trump.

Signs everywhere? How about some data?

Biden is killing Trump in the polls, and this before the economy tanks even more and more people die because of his idiocy.

Good luck with that. Trump is doomed.

Deservedly so. He's failed us all in a time of crisis. When events challenged him to actually be a great leader, he decided not to take responsibility for anything. Even worse, he set us against each other with his whole anti-science "Liberate!" bullshit & more. He & his sycophants lead us to even greater catastrophe.

 

[Jhhnn]

I saw a lot of Trump signs in 2016, but not a lot so far this year. That said, I live in Connecticut, and the Democrats in this area seem to be more militant this election cycle. They might be tearing the signs down. I'm not sure either way.

But you just had to bring it up as if it might be a real thing. Those aren't the kind of signs compuwiz1 is talking about, anyway. He's talking about signs from the heavens, like the ones showing them that God wanted Trump to be president.

 

[VRAMdemon]

IMO....With regards to Trumps taxes being useful in the election, it's not about his shady use of tax loopholes, some sketchy business deals, or even if he cheats on his taxes...

I remember in one debate with Hillary Clinton, she called him out for being the sort of snakish millionaire who made his money off tax loopholes. And he said basically “So what. I didn’t break any laws. And you helped write the laws.” And his supporters, and many fence sitters thought that was great.

It’s about his rampant corruption. If there’s a leak and the Democrats can point to specific evidence of one of his many, many foreign dealings which basically amount to him being heavily compromised, then it becomes useful. If it’s just about him being shady about dodging taxes, not so much. If Biden makes a big deal out of it...what's to stop Trump from releasing a heavily redacted or straight up fake tax return, then we have a repeat of the Mueller Report where a Trump lackey can control the narrative, it may do more harm than good. The worst outcome would be to have it turn into a nothing burger. And there are many people now paying attention, know it's not.

It’s not about his dodgy/shady use of tax loopholes or even if he's not as rich as he claims. Everyone who is not in Cult45 knows he’s both a snake oil salesman and a crook. We’ve seen the abuses with the charity, the university, the lawsuits, the bribes etc. We know who he is. The thing that most matters is if the taxes reveal that he’s massively in debt to Putin or one of his many stooges, foreign and domestic, giving weight to the strong accusations of him being compromised. And he and his handlers will do whatever it takes to not let that happen

 

[woolfe9998]

IMO....With regards to Trumps taxes being useful in the election, it's not about his shady use of tax loopholes, some sketchy business deals, or even if he cheats on his taxes...

I remember in one debate with Hillary Clinton, she called him out for being the sort of snakish millionaire who made his money off tax loopholes. And he said basically “So what. I didn’t break any laws. And you helped write the laws.” And his supporters, and many fence sitters thought that was great.

It’s about his rampant corruption. If there’s a leak and the Democrats can point to specific evidence of one of his many, many foreign dealings which basically amount to him being heavily compromised, then it becomes useful. If it’s just about him being shady about dodging taxes, not so much. If Biden makes a big deal out of it...what's to stop Trump from releasing a heavily redacted or straight up fake tax return, then we have a repeat of the Mueller Report where a Trump lackey can control the narrative, it may do more harm than good. The worst outcome would be to have it turn into a nothing burger. And there are many people now paying attention, know it's not.

It’s not about his dodgy/shady use of tax loopholes or even if he's not as rich as he claims. Everyone who is not in Cult45 knows he’s both a snake oil salesman and a crook. We’ve seen the abuses with the charity, the university, the lawsuits, the bribes etc. We know who he is. The thing that most matters is if the taxes reveal that he’s massively in debt to Putin or one of his many stooges, foreign and domestic, giving weight to the strong accusations of him being compromised. And he and his handlers will do whatever it takes to not let that happen

True, but it still matters if there are crimes revealed in those documents. The IRS really only looks at criminal tax evasion, and even then, they may or may not catch it or pursue it. They aren't looking for other financial crimes which may be revealed through careful review of the documents. Financial crimes can take many forms. Any sort of revealed crime could matter for the election, and could of course matter after he leaves office.

 

[hal2kilo]

More of the same. Only the best.

IRS chief earns $100K+ per year from Trump property: new documents

IRS Commissioner Charles Rettig has refused to release Trump’s tax returns despite a law requiring him to do so.

www.salon.com

 

[MtnMan]

His tax returns could very well indicate the depth to which his corruption truly is, and how that corruption directly affects how he's ruining America. He's in deep with hostile foreign powers, owes bigly, let's see the money trail.

They'll probably do just that. But I dare you to find one of his supporters that gives a fuck about that.

 

[Fenixgoon]

More of the same. Only the best.

IRS chief earns $100K+ per year from Trump property: new documents

IRS Commissioner Charles Rettig has refused to release Trump’s tax returns despite a law requiring him to do so.

www.salon.com

Holy shit that's a massive conflict of interest. How in the hell was that ever cleared?

 

[HeXen]

It's not like he sits in his kitchen and does the taxes himself. Even many working class people pay to have someone else do them and hope they can reap the most return and any issues with the IRS are dealt with by them. Rich people have accountants to take care of this stuff.

 

[fskimospy]

It's not like he sits in his kitchen and does the taxes himself. Even many working class people pay to have someone else do them and hope they can reap the most return and any issues with the IRS are dealt with by them. Rich people have accountants to take care of this stuff.

Why is that relevant?

 

[ch33zw1z]

Why is that relevant?

Setting up the deep state tax attorney conspiracy and fall guy?

 

[interchange]

Holy shit that's a massive conflict of interest. How in the hell was that ever cleared?

Because the Senate has long been acting as stooges for Trump.

 

[zinfamous]

Why is that relevant?

Because it's the first time that he has tried that argument and so it must be novel and sounds really brilliant, despite that being trashed for years now.

 

[zinfamous]

More of the same. Only the best.

IRS chief earns $100K+ per year from Trump property: new documents

IRS Commissioner Charles Rettig has refused to release Trump’s tax returns despite a law requiring him to do so.

www.salon.com

I'm sure plenty of republicans here will chime in how particularly normal and acceptable this is.

right?

right?

I mean, tan suits/mustard/feet on a desk and stuff, etc...

 

[Jimmac]

I don't think the American people will ever see his tax returns as long as he remains POTUS. Come election night. I hope for the USA's sake that there is no chance of that maniac getting 4 more years... and once his tax returns are finally declared, I imagine the more likely outcome will be 7 to 10 years with the possibility of time off for good behaviour...

 

[cytg111]

lol the fact that people still for some reason think there is going to be some kind of big "gotcha" in the tax returns.

I mean how FUCKING dumb can you be? Do you think Trump pencils in his tax returns himself or something?

Trump may look dumb but things like this are what make his enemies look dumb.

How dumb can you be? Fucking even? You clearly dont have imagination, capacity, integrity to answer that question yourself. Just cause you cant master riding a bike, dont be telling people actually riding that its impossible. It makes you look fucking dumb.

 

[UNCjigga]

Holy shit that's a massive conflict of interest. How in the hell was that ever cleared?

The fact that Rettig did nothing illegal and was not required to disclose his ownership during confirmation tells you exactly how America got to where it is today.

 

[Moonbeam]

The Republican Party is a criminal organization that runs law enforcement. The victims, the American people suffer from Stockholm Syndrome.

“My table is empty, my spirit dead, please let me feed at yours.”

The spiders are cunning. They raise their own flies.

 

[BoomerD]

I'm sure Trump had decent enough accountants and lawyers to help him launder all the money he's clear-as-day been laundering for his entire adult life.

So, the taxes don't really matter to me either, not really. It's like shitting yourself and being upset that there's an undigested kernel of corn in your pants.

It's not like thers's a "Contributions to/from Russian dictators" category on the 1040...