Guitar Experts - Need a Metal Guitar

[Vegitto]

Originally posted by: hellokeith
Many guitar brands have cheapo, value, mainstream, premium, and custom models. So saying xxxx company makes crap guitars is short-sighted. I'd say decide if you are a whammy guy or not, and make your decision on that. And prepare to spend at least $1000 on a quality guitar, regardless of the brand.

Only exception I'd make it with a strat or telecaster. They suck for the metal sound, no matter how quality/expensive they are.

But they're nice to play. Cut up the body to fit 3 humbuckers FTW?

 

[Platypus]

Originally posted by: hellokeith
Many guitar brands have cheapo, value, mainstream, premium, and custom models. So saying xxxx company makes crap guitars is short-sighted. I'd say decide if you are a whammy guy or not, and make your decision on that. And prepare to spend at least $1000 on a quality guitar, regardless of the brand.

Only exception I'd make it with a strat or telecaster. They suck for the metal sound, no matter how quality/expensive they are.

Tell Yngwie that

 

[Rudee]

A nice mellow tune for a Saturday afternoon, courtesy of the late Shawn Lane.

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Well since you haven't stated a price range, I will go ahead and say ESP Viper 400. $599 comes stock with EMG's, an 81 in the bridge and an 85 in the neck. The guitar just feels so awesome. I had a Jackson dxmg Dinky for a while, but this ESP blows it away. Plus the jackson had the EMG HZ's. Anyways, I personally swapped the pickups on my Viper 400 and put DiMarzio's, a PAF Joe in the bridge and a Humbucker from hell in the neck. Sounded so much better than the EMG's, and they were perfect for any style of music, even metal. Metal sounded so much better on the DiMarzio's.

EDIT: i recently got a 2001 PRS santana se, the one that looks 10x better than the new ugly santana se's. considering this PRS was a 700-800 guitar at its time, I honestly prefer my ESP over it.

 

[stars]

The Ibanez RG321's are the best bang for the buck. The higher end Ibanezs and most newer high end guitars are a waste of money. Alot of people are buying the the RG's and replacing the pickups. Another route to take would be buy something like a pod xt or pod xt live.

I have a new Ibanez and almost new podxt live that I'll be selling locally later this week - if you are anyone is interested I'll make a good deal. Here's a link to info about the Ibanez's:

http://www.ibanez.com/guitars/guitar.asp?model=RG321MH&color=1

Another route you could take is finding an older used metal guitar such as a late 80's/early 90's Ibanez or Jackson.

 

[hellokeith]

Originally posted by: Platypus

Originally posted by: hellokeith
Many guitar brands have cheapo, value, mainstream, premium, and custom models. So saying xxxx company makes crap guitars is short-sighted. I'd say decide if you are a whammy guy or not, and make your decision on that. And prepare to spend at least $1000 on a quality guitar, regardless of the brand.

Only exception I'd make it with a strat or telecaster. They suck for the metal sound, no matter how quality/expensive they are.

Tell Yngwie that

Joe Satriani once begged Yngwie to let Joe produce his album, because Joe said Yngwie's sound sucks. I agree. But I doubt Joe could get Yngwie to change guitars.. not sure how many guitar companies can make a flat neck.

 

[Norton]

*Anything posted below is IMHO and is not me preaching the gospel.*

What is a "metal" guitar? Metal can be played on anything. Now certain things are maybe more suited for metal type tone like EMG pickups or the flatter fretboards/thin necks for shredding, etc. but that doesn't make them "metal" guitars.

If your more concerned about getting more crunch etc. buy an amp more suited to high gain tones. The higher the gain the less the guitar matters for the most part.

Take your LP out and go play through some high gain amps before you buy another guitar. Your amp is going to the biggest factor more than your guitar.

Are you a bedroom wanker(like myself) or playing with/or going to be with a band? The more info you give about the whole picture here the better advice can be given. What model Line 6 are you looking at and why a half stack?

 

[TechBoyJK]

the bad thing about the cheap ibanez RG's is that the floating floyd rose tremelo is total SUCK. dont get any guitar with a floyd rose unless it is a GOOD one.

i have an RG270 that i use to mess around on... good action, fast neck, terrible pickups and floyd rose tremolo is a disaster.

imho, Carvin FTW. find a good used carvin on eBay.

 

[stars]

i agree techboy - thats one advantage of the rg321's though. they do not have the floating tremolo. i like older guitars from the 90s and older fender teles/strats the best. i think unless youre playing live or recording an album to be mass produced there pickups will be fine considering how most music is so processed anymore anyway.

 

[jlbenedict]

Agile AG-3000


Word around many guitar forums preach about how Agile's are better than mid priced Epiphones..

 

[Rudee]

How about a Mini?

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
the bad thing about the cheap ibanez RG's is that the floating floyd rose tremelo is total SUCK. dont get any guitar with a floyd rose unless it is a GOOD one.

i have an RG270 that i use to mess around on... good action, fast neck, terrible pickups and floyd rose tremolo is a disaster.

imho, Carvin FTW. find a good used carvin on eBay.

A Carvin is far from a metal guitar.

 

[BoldAsLove]

Originally posted by: Rudee
How about a Mini?

that gustavo guy always makes me jealous...

 

[Fritzo]

1st, dont' get a metal guitar. Get a wood one. Metal is too heavy, and if you drop it on your foot, it'll hurt.


With that out of the way ( ), I have a LP Standard and a Power Telecaster, and can make about any sound I want (The Nashville Power Tele is probably one of the most versitile guitars I've ever had).

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: Lucifer

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
the bad thing about the cheap ibanez RG's is that the floating floyd rose tremelo is total SUCK. dont get any guitar with a floyd rose unless it is a GOOD one.

i have an RG270 that i use to mess around on... good action, fast neck, terrible pickups and floyd rose tremolo is a disaster.

imho, Carvin FTW. find a good used carvin on eBay.

A Carvin is far from a metal guitar.

I agree, but I'd rather use a carvin for metal. The DC line would be fine for metal.

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: Lucifer

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
the bad thing about the cheap ibanez RG's is that the floating floyd rose tremelo is total SUCK. dont get any guitar with a floyd rose unless it is a GOOD one.

i have an RG270 that i use to mess around on... good action, fast neck, terrible pickups and floyd rose tremolo is a disaster.

imho, Carvin FTW. find a good used carvin on eBay.

A Carvin is far from a metal guitar.

I agree, but I'd rather use a carvin for metal. The DC line would be fine for metal.

Perhaps, but Carvin usually uses the same pickups in most their guitars, and the coil splitting would probably deem usless for metal, considering you'd most likely get a strat and tele sound out of the split coils. That said, the DC127 is priced really well, and I would choose that guitar over anything else. I'm sure the OP would be satisfied with it. I'd buy one if I could afford it!

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: Lucifer

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: Lucifer

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
the bad thing about the cheap ibanez RG's is that the floating floyd rose tremelo is total SUCK. dont get any guitar with a floyd rose unless it is a GOOD one.

i have an RG270 that i use to mess around on... good action, fast neck, terrible pickups and floyd rose tremolo is a disaster.

imho, Carvin FTW. find a good used carvin on eBay.

A Carvin is far from a metal guitar.

I agree, but I'd rather use a carvin for metal. The DC line would be fine for metal.

Perhaps, but Carvin usually uses the same pickups in most their guitars, and the coil splitting would probably deem usless for metal, considering you'd most likely get a strat and tele sound out of the split coils. That said, the DC127 is priced really well, and I would choose that guitar over anything else. I'm sure the OP would be satisfied with it. I'd buy one if I could afford it!

i might be mistaken but i think the DC is setup for rock/metal, or at least they offer a version of it with pickups that are setup for it... im not sure though, been a while since i shopped them... all i know is that the DC727 will be mine.

 

[ZOOYUKA]

Go with which ever ESP Viper you can afford.

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: Lucifer

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: Lucifer

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
the bad thing about the cheap ibanez RG's is that the floating floyd rose tremelo is total SUCK. dont get any guitar with a floyd rose unless it is a GOOD one.

i have an RG270 that i use to mess around on... good action, fast neck, terrible pickups and floyd rose tremolo is a disaster.

imho, Carvin FTW. find a good used carvin on eBay.

A Carvin is far from a metal guitar.

I agree, but I'd rather use a carvin for metal. The DC line would be fine for metal.

Perhaps, but Carvin usually uses the same pickups in most their guitars, and the coil splitting would probably deem usless for metal, considering you'd most likely get a strat and tele sound out of the split coils. That said, the DC127 is priced really well, and I would choose that guitar over anything else. I'm sure the OP would be satisfied with it. I'd buy one if I could afford it!

i might be mistaken but i think the DC is setup for rock/metal, or at least they offer a version of it with pickups that are setup for it... im not sure though, been a while since i shopped them... all i know is that the DC727 will be mine.

Carvin offers the same pickup configurations for all of their guitars, except the 7 strings I think.

 

[TechBoyJK]

the DC line has a few variations on pickups; acoustic/electric . passive/active . 2/3 way

and if you wanted a different kind of pickup put in the guitar, you could always ship it to them before they build it and they could just use your pickup instead of one of theirs... a buddy of mine sent them some bartolini pickups for his bass and they didnt have a problem using them instead.

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
the DC line has a few variations on pickups; acoustic/electric . passive/active . 2/3 way

and if you wanted a different kind of pickup put in the guitar, you could always ship it to them before they build it and they could just use your pickup instead of one of theirs... a buddy of mine sent them some bartolini pickups for his bass and they didnt have a problem using them instead.

yeah thats right. Forgot about that.

I've seen some carvins with EMG's pre installed too.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: Lucifer

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
the DC line has a few variations on pickups; acoustic/electric . passive/active . 2/3 way

and if you wanted a different kind of pickup put in the guitar, you could always ship it to them before they build it and they could just use your pickup instead of one of theirs... a buddy of mine sent them some bartolini pickups for his bass and they didnt have a problem using them instead.

yeah thats right. Forgot about that.

I've seen some carvins with EMG's pre installed too.

i love carvin. i'll never buy anything else unless I have a good reason not to.

 

[Daaavo]

If the OP wants to play metal, all he needs to know is EMG 81 @ the bridge and EMG 85 @ the neck.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: Daaavo
If the OP wants to play metal, all he needs to know is EMG 81 @ the bridge and EMG 85 @ the neck.

is that the magic formula? im saving up for a carvin and want to use different pickups than the carvin stock, and have them installed with the original build... im undecided on which pickups to use though..

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: Daaavo
If the OP wants to play metal, all he needs to know is EMG 81 @ the bridge and EMG 85 @ the neck.

is that the magic formula? im saving up for a carvin and want to use different pickups than the carvin stock, and have them installed with the original build... im undecided on which pickups to use though..

DiMarzio! EMG ftl. The EMG's are no comparison to the DiMarzio's I have in my ESP. Sad taht the EMG's are metal pickups and don't even sound anywhere near as good as the DiMarzio's.