Guitar Experts - Need a Metal Guitar

[dfi]

Just in case the OP didn't consider it: jackson soloist.

 

[AlienCraft]

SO you really aren't looking for a metal guitar, but a guitar to play "metal" on?
'Cause I was gonna say that a Dobro is about the only all metal guitar I've seen although there was this "one off"once that this guy brought by the studio......

 

[TechBoyJK]

i think dimarzio's are what is in Petrucci's Ernie Ball MM

 

[Kirby]

i don't see how you people listen to satriani, malmsteen, and petrucci. i agree that it is technically amazing, but it lacks musicality imho. i would sell the gibson and add the money you would of spent on ltd or jackson and buy a better gibson. but whatever floats your boat. but if you're set on buying something, go and play it rather than taking the word of ATOTers.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: nkgreen
i don't see how you people listen to satriani, malmsteen, and petrucci. i agree that it is technically amazing, but it lacks musicality imho. i would sell the gibson and add the money you would of spent on ltd or jackson and buy a better gibson. but whatever floats your boat. but if you're set on buying something, go and play it rather than taking the word of ATOTers.

satriani and petrucci are very musical imho.. malmsteen is just classical shred to me. listen to satriani's Flying in a Blue Dream... its so very melodic and sweet, i could listen to it over and over and over...

 

[Slickone]

The Jackson - Phil Collen is a pretty good sounding guitar is it not?

I like the more rounded horns etc. of the S series a lot more than the RG series.
I have the S470DXQM. Mine. Mine.
It has the Zero Resistance double locking tremolo, which is a lot better than the Edge Pro trems, which I think is what is in the one TechBoy mentioned?. Only thing I don't like is I wish it had more frets. Also although the PUPs don't sound bad to me, I would probably enjoy some better ones and wonder how much better they'd sound.


If I had the $, I'd like to get a Suhr - Reb Beach signature model.


BTW, here are a few of the many pics I took of Vai's Jem 7's in action (yes I know I need an album):
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16.

Unforunately I didn't have my camera at Satch's show, though I didn't get a pic with he and I. Also got pics with other guitarists...Eric Johnson, Steve Lukather, Larry Carlton, Brian Setzer.

 

[Slickone]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
i think dimarzio's are what is in Petrucci's Ernie Ball MM

Yep. But Steve Lukather (AKA Luke) gets some of the best sound I've heard, out of EMG's on his Ernie Ball MMs.
Audio.
2006 pic 1, 2, 3, 4.

One guy says EMG's don't compare to DiMarzio. Another will say the opposite.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: Slickone

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
i think dimarzio's are what is in Petrucci's Ernie Ball MM

One guy says EMG's don't compare to DiMarzio. Another will say the opposite.

i guess thats why if you are really worried about your tone, you gotta hear these things for yourself and be the judge

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: Lucifer
Well since you haven't stated a price range, I will go ahead and say ESP Viper 400. $599 comes stock with EMG's, an 81 in the bridge and an 85 in the neck. The guitar just feels so awesome. I had a Jackson dxmg Dinky for a while, but this ESP blows it away. Plus the jackson had the EMG HZ's. Anyways, I personally swapped the pickups on my Viper 400 and put DiMarzio's, a PAF Joe in the bridge and a Humbucker from hell in the neck. Sounded so much better than the EMG's, and they were perfect for any style of music, even metal. Metal sounded so much better on the DiMarzio's.

EDIT: i recently got a 2001 PRS santana se, the one that looks 10x better than the new ugly santana se's. considering this PRS was a 700-800 guitar at its time, I honestly prefer my ESP over it.

So you recommend the Viper, but then go on to say that the DiMarzio's sound so much better?

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: Lucifer
Well since you haven't stated a price range, I will go ahead and say ESP Viper 400. $599 comes stock with EMG's, an 81 in the bridge and an 85 in the neck. The guitar just feels so awesome. I had a Jackson dxmg Dinky for a while, but this ESP blows it away. Plus the jackson had the EMG HZ's. Anyways, I personally swapped the pickups on my Viper 400 and put DiMarzio's, a PAF Joe in the bridge and a Humbucker from hell in the neck. Sounded so much better than the EMG's, and they were perfect for any style of music, even metal. Metal sounded so much better on the DiMarzio's.

EDIT: i recently got a 2001 PRS santana se, the one that looks 10x better than the new ugly santana se's. considering this PRS was a 700-800 guitar at its time, I honestly prefer my ESP over it.

So you recommend the Viper, but then go on to say that the DiMarzio's sound so much better?

Sound better than the EMG's. I was stating my personal preference. Others may disagree. Note that I did say "personally" in my post.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: hellokeith
Many guitar brands have cheapo, value, mainstream, premium, and custom models. So saying xxxx company makes crap guitars is short-sighted. I'd say decide if you are a whammy guy or not, and make your decision on that. And prepare to spend at least $1000 on a quality guitar, regardless of the brand.

Only exception I'd make it with a strat or telecaster. They suck for the metal sound, no matter how quality/expensive they are.

Here's a clip of my Telecaster.

Heavy Metal is all in the effects.

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: hellokeith
Many guitar brands have cheapo, value, mainstream, premium, and custom models. So saying xxxx company makes crap guitars is short-sighted. I'd say decide if you are a whammy guy or not, and make your decision on that. And prepare to spend at least $1000 on a quality guitar, regardless of the brand.

Only exception I'd make it with a strat or telecaster. They suck for the metal sound, no matter how quality/expensive they are.

Here's a clip of my Telecaster.

Heavy Metal is all in the effects.

No offense, but that sounds like ass to me. Not like any metal bands I listen to. If you like it that's great, but I wouldn't say it sounds like a good metal sound to me. More like grunge/Smashing Pumpkins or something.

 

[ZOOYUKA]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: hellokeith
Many guitar brands have cheapo, value, mainstream, premium, and custom models. So saying xxxx company makes crap guitars is short-sighted. I'd say decide if you are a whammy guy or not, and make your decision on that. And prepare to spend at least $1000 on a quality guitar, regardless of the brand.

Only exception I'd make it with a strat or telecaster. They suck for the metal sound, no matter how quality/expensive they are.

Here's a clip of my Telecaster.

Heavy Metal is all in the effects.

No offense, but that sounds like ass to me. Not like any metal bands I listen to. If you like it that's great, but I wouldn't say it sounds like a good metal sound to me. More like grunge/Smashing Pumpkins or something.

Lets hear one of your clips?

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: hellokeith
Many guitar brands have cheapo, value, mainstream, premium, and custom models. So saying xxxx company makes crap guitars is short-sighted. I'd say decide if you are a whammy guy or not, and make your decision on that. And prepare to spend at least $1000 on a quality guitar, regardless of the brand.

Only exception I'd make it with a strat or telecaster. They suck for the metal sound, no matter how quality/expensive they are.

Here's a clip of my Telecaster.

Heavy Metal is all in the effects.

No offense, but that sounds like ass to me. Not like any metal bands I listen to. If you like it that's great, but I wouldn't say it sounds like a good metal sound to me. More like grunge/Smashing Pumpkins or something.

Lets hear one of your clips?

No because I haven't gotten a good metal sound yet either.

 

[Christobevii3]

Get a dual humbucker guitar. Have the seymour duncain mustaines put in (they are sex for heavier stuff). I'd say not get a floating bridge at first, tuning over and over is so annoying for a beginner.

That doesn't sound very metal with the telly clip either. That is more of a fuzz distortion.

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: hellokeith
Many guitar brands have cheapo, value, mainstream, premium, and custom models. So saying xxxx company makes crap guitars is short-sighted. I'd say decide if you are a whammy guy or not, and make your decision on that. And prepare to spend at least $1000 on a quality guitar, regardless of the brand.

Only exception I'd make it with a strat or telecaster. They suck for the metal sound, no matter how quality/expensive they are.

Here's a clip of my Telecaster.

Heavy Metal is all in the effects.

No offense, but that sounds like ass to me. Not like any metal bands I listen to. If you like it that's great, but I wouldn't say it sounds like a good metal sound to me. More like grunge/Smashing Pumpkins or something.

Lets hear one of your clips?

Ok this is my Line6 amp going into my line input from the headphone output. Lots of noise.

Clip
Clip2

 

[stars]

i just wanted to post a clip of a metal lead sound ive been using lately - although im playing blues with it while really hammered to a vamp i grabbed from a website and recorded in one take

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=602915

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: nkgreen
i don't see how you people listen to satriani, malmsteen, and petrucci. i agree that it is technically amazing, but it lacks musicality imho. i would sell the gibson and add the money you would of spent on ltd or jackson and buy a better gibson. but whatever floats your boat. but if you're set on buying something, go and play it rather than taking the word of ATOTers.

satriani and petrucci are very musical imho.. malmsteen is just classical shred to me. listen to satriani's Flying in a Blue Dream... its so very melodic and sweet, i could listen to it over and over and over...

i haven't listened to any of dreamtheater's new stuff, but what i have heard seems like petrucci is just playing scales and fingertapping as fast as he can. but to each his own i guess.

 

[stars]

i like when tenchnique is incorporated into todays mainstream music. i miss the days of listening to shredders on metal shop.

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: nkgreen
i don't see how you people listen to satriani, malmsteen, and petrucci. i agree that it is technically amazing, but it lacks musicality imho. i would sell the gibson and add the money you would of spent on ltd or jackson and buy a better gibson. but whatever floats your boat. but if you're set on buying something, go and play it rather than taking the word of ATOTers.

satriani and petrucci are very musical imho.. malmsteen is just classical shred to me. listen to satriani's Flying in a Blue Dream... its so very melodic and sweet, i could listen to it over and over and over...

i haven't listened to any of dreamtheater's new stuff, but what i have heard seems like petrucci is just playing scales and fingertapping as fast as he can. but to each his own i guess.

You're a retard.

 

[Triumph]

^^^ hehe

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: Rudee
How about a Mini?

I bought one of those for my son for Christmas

 

[SWScorch]

Originally posted by: nkgreen
i haven't listened to any of dreamtheater's new stuff, but what i have heard seems like petrucci is just playing scales and fingertapping as fast as he can. but to each his own i guess.

A lot of his playing is extremely fast and technical and lacks "soul" but he can also play melodically and with a ton of emotion. I hereby recommend the following songs:

Goodnight Kiss
The Spirit Carries On
Voices
Stream of Consciousness (there is a lot of wanking in this song but towards the end it gives me chills every time)

 

[Rudee]

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: nkgreen
i don't see how you people listen to satriani, malmsteen, and petrucci. i agree that it is technically amazing, but it lacks musicality imho. i would sell the gibson and add the money you would of spent on ltd or jackson and buy a better gibson. but whatever floats your boat. but if you're set on buying something, go and play it rather than taking the word of ATOTers.

satriani and petrucci are very musical imho.. malmsteen is just classical shred to me. listen to satriani's Flying in a Blue Dream... its so very melodic and sweet, i could listen to it over and over and over...

i haven't listened to any of dreamtheater's new stuff, but what i have heard seems like petrucci is just playing scales and fingertapping as fast as he can. but to each his own i guess.

Some of the best music ever written is basic scales over chord progressions. Petrucci just goes alot faster

 

[Rock Hydra]

Originally posted by: Rudee

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: nkgreen
i don't see how you people listen to satriani, malmsteen, and petrucci. i agree that it is technically amazing, but it lacks musicality imho. i would sell the gibson and add the money you would of spent on ltd or jackson and buy a better gibson. but whatever floats your boat. but if you're set on buying something, go and play it rather than taking the word of ATOTers.

satriani and petrucci are very musical imho.. malmsteen is just classical shred to me. listen to satriani's Flying in a Blue Dream... its so very melodic and sweet, i could listen to it over and over and over...

i haven't listened to any of dreamtheater's new stuff, but what i have heard seems like petrucci is just playing scales and fingertapping as fast as he can. but to each his own i guess.

Some of the best music ever written is basic scales over chord progressions. Petrucci just goes alot faster

Aye, Petrucci be fast, but teh melodocity(sp?) jumps off teh plank....wankery is the word for it out on the seas.