Guitar players, help me play this part. Guitar n00bs, STAY OUT.

[Fritzo]

I would add a third but most people disagree with me. That would be you should learn how to read music and stop relying on tabs to learn songs. However reading music seems to be a big no no to most rock guitar players. Yes, I did learn songs from tabs in the very begining. But I was also coached on sheet music from the very begining. My freinds who learned only to play from tab could never make the switch to sheet music. I had no problems.

I learned to read music long ago, and it's pretty poor for guitarists actually. Sheet music translates to keyed instruments a lot better than stringed instruments. There's not really a way to properly express string bends, hammer ons and pull offs, pinches, harmonics, and many other aspects of a stringed insturment without tab.

 

[cougar78]

I would learn how to hit both strings with your fingers, you will find a variety of song require this at times (at least I find it easier), a real novice song that uses that method is the very beginning of Louie Louie, hitting string 5 and 3 on fret 5 and 7 at the same time and then taking it down to fret 7 and 9 in one pluck.

Also, I'm left handed but find it easier to play right handed, what is the advantage having your dominate hand struming rather then hitting the notes?

 

[Pepsi90919]

Also, how the hell would one play this:

---4---
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---4---
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are you serious.

 

[cougar78]

have you tried any of these?
ac/dc - thunderstruck - speed playing and needs good finger accuracy

van halen - jump - playing those hard to reach frets like 15, 17, 20

eric clapton - wonderful tonight - arpreggios, bending, and sliding

led zeppelin - stairway to heaven - chord progression, strumming patterns, alternate picking, hammer-ons, pull-offs

ozzy ousbourne - crazy train - chord progression, playing in position, fast soloing

chapter four - avenged sevenfold - drop d tuning, complex riffs, palm mutes

 

[Vegitto]

Originally posted by: cougar78
Also, I'm left handed but find it easier to play right handed, what is the advantage having your dominate hand struming rather then hitting the notes?

My point exactly .

 

[kevinthenerd]

If you're learning how to play music by Mamma Hendrix's little boy Jimi, you need to learn the obligatory Purple Haze. It's fairly easy for a n00b with enough practice.

 

[kevinthenerd]

Originally posted by: linkgoron

Originally posted by: Vegitto

Originally posted by: Platypus

Originally posted by: Vegitto

Originally posted by: Platypus
I find it easy to mute the B string in that last chord you mentioned with my middle finger while it's on the 4th fret of high E then stack your index finger to get the other note on the G string. (the 4 and 4). For the 4 6 one, switch your fingers around, same concept.

That doesn't work.
I play 'upside down' .

Learn to play properly

It's not my fault I'm a lefthanded guitarplayer.

Buy a left-hand guitar.

Tell Hendrix that. He played a right-handed guitar as a left-hander. I think he actually played it with his left hand strumming.

 

[sourceninja]

Originally posted by: Fritzo

I would add a third but most people disagree with me. That would be you should learn how to read music and stop relying on tabs to learn songs. However reading music seems to be a big no no to most rock guitar players. Yes, I did learn songs from tabs in the very begining. But I was also coached on sheet music from the very begining. My freinds who learned only to play from tab could never make the switch to sheet music. I had no problems.

I learned to read music long ago, and it's pretty poor for guitarists actually. Sheet music translates to keyed instruments a lot better than stringed instruments. There's not really a way to properly express string bends, hammer ons and pull offs, pinches, harmonics, and many other aspects of a stringed insturment without tab.

I have to disagree, these concepts have existed for as long as their have been stringed instruments. There is notation to handle all of it. Plus, a lot is left up to the interpertation of the player and thus a hammer on might be a slide or a bend depending on how you look at it. Guitar tab is like this as well. I have a half a dozen guitar world mags that have the exact same songs in them with different tabs.

 

[Platypus]

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd

Originally posted by: linkgoron

Originally posted by: Vegitto

Originally posted by: Platypus

Originally posted by: Vegitto

Originally posted by: Platypus
I find it easy to mute the B string in that last chord you mentioned with my middle finger while it's on the 4th fret of high E then stack your index finger to get the other note on the G string. (the 4 and 4). For the 4 6 one, switch your fingers around, same concept.

That doesn't work.
I play 'upside down' .

Learn to play properly

It's not my fault I'm a lefthanded guitarplayer.

Buy a left-hand guitar.

Tell Hendrix that. He played a right-handed guitar as a left-hander. I think he actually played it with his left hand strumming.

That's because there was no such thing as a left-handed guitar at the time..

Anyway to the OP, just because something is easy doesn't mean it's the best way. You're just starting out.. try to learn things the right way through or these bad habits will become a monster to unlearn. Coming from someone who taught himself guitar and bass and has been playing for the better part of 10 years with fretted instruments, take it slow and learn it properly or you'll regret it.

 

[Vegitto]

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd
If you're learning how to play music by Mamma Hendrix's little boy Jimi, you need to learn the obligatory Purple Haze. It's fairly easy for a n00b with enough practice.

Thanks, I'll look into it .

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: Fritzo
What? Dude, you finger pick that. It's a standard guitar shape.

No I don't. I do exactly what I suggested he do. When I'm playing rock. Of course, if I ever pick up a guitar nowadays it's my classical, and I don't even touch a pick. But if I play my electric with some Hendrix I mute strings to strum stuff like that.

If you can get it to sound right like that, more power to you. I'm just saying that's not how "he" (or most other people) would do it. Nearly all rock guitarists use their free fingers to snap strings along with their pick. Here's a quick example:

The Lemon Song (Led Zeppelin):

E|--0--0---0--0---0--0---0
B|--0--0---0--0---0--0---0
G|--------------------------
D|--------------------------
A|--------------------------
E|--0--0---4--4---5--5---7

Here you would use your pick for the 6th string and your 4th&5th fingers for the E&B strings. This technique was widely used by blues and jazz artists in the 40's and 50's (who frequently didn't use picks). Blues begat rock, so there we are. For masters of this technique, check out Scotty Moore, Greg Allman, Lindsey Buckingham, and Mark Knopfler .

 

[kogase]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
The Lemon Song (Led Zeppelin):

E|--0--0---0--0---0--0---0
B|--0--0---0--0---0--0---0
G|--------------------------
D|--------------------------
A|--------------------------
E|--0--0---4--4---5--5---7
.

For that I would use my fingers, three muted strings really cause a racket and are hard to accurately hold. For two strings separated by one I mute the middle.

 

[sourceninja]

Gred Allman and Mark Knopfler are two of my alltime favorite guitar players LOL

 

[ruffilb]

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: Vegitto
Yeah, that works, but we have the same deal with this one:

---4---
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---6---
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And I can't copy that over .

You have to mute the B with one of your fingers. Say you're fingering that with your ring finger on the 4 and index finger on the 6. Your index finger would have to fold down and touch the B. You could also overextend your ring finger on the 4 until the tip is touching the B.

This is definitely what I would recommend.

Although at some point you might just want to give up on using a pick completely.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Hi!

I am a guitar n00b and I say, 'MAKE ME!'.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Hi!

I am a guitar n00b and I say, 'MAKE ME!'.

You asked for it

 

[SViper]

HOW THE FSCK DO I PLAY THIS? Please take note that I play in a similair way to the master himself. I play the guitar lefthanded but set for a right-handed person. IE, e is on top and E is on the bottom.

I'm left handed so I can somewhat relate to what you are doing.

Let me tell you the same thing that my friend who's played the guitar for 15+ years, teaches lessons, and plays gigs told me. You will reach a point where you will need to play the guitar the correct way. For however long you have been playing the incorrect way, it will roughly take the same amount of time to unlearn the incorrect way and learn the correct way.

When I first started playing the guitar (playing for about 8 months now), I had to make a decision to either play right-handed on a right-handed guitar or left-handed on a left-handed guitar. I chose to play right-handed. I didn't want to pay more for a left-handed guitar, and if I went to a friend's house to play, I want to just be able to pick up his guitar and start playing. It's worked out for me so far.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: SViper

HOW THE FSCK DO I PLAY THIS? Please take note that I play in a similair way to the master himself. I play the guitar lefthanded but set for a right-handed person. IE, e is on top and E is on the bottom.

Let me tell you the same thing that my friend who's played the guitar for 15+ years, teaches lessons, and plays gigs told me. You will reach a point where you will need to play the guitar the correct way. For however long you have been playing the incorrect way, it will roughly take the same amount of time to unlearn the incorrect way and learn the correct way.
.

:thumbsup:

 

[Vegitto]

Well, basically, I know someone who's been performing and who's been playing for the last ~25 years. He's teaching me sometimes, but he's on vacation, so he can't show me how to do this. I mean, he's the living proof that playing 'the wrong way' isn't wrong.

 

[kevinthenerd]

Originally posted by: Vegitto
Well, basically, I know someone who's been performing and who's been playing for the last ~25 years. He's teaching me sometimes, but he's on vacation, so he can't show me how to do this. I mean, he's the living proof that playing 'the wrong way' isn't wrong.

Many of the "greats" were clasically trained. Although there are exceptions to every trend, it's usually better to learn the rules well before you break them so that you have an appreciation for their intent.

I've been playing the piano for the last 10 years or so, and I must admit that my form sucks, but it's my own thing that works quite well for me. My poor hand position is definitely a biproduct of heavy computer use, but my high typing speed has helped me develop my own style of "keyboard shredding" that I've yet to hear in any recording.

 

[SViper]

Originally posted by: Vegitto
Well, basically, I know someone who's been performing and who's been playing for the last ~25 years. He's teaching me sometimes, but he's on vacation, so he can't show me how to do this. I mean, he's the living proof that playing 'the wrong way' isn't wrong.

You can play this way, but it's almost like re-inventing the wheel. We already have a "standard" way of playing that has worked well for the majority of people for many years. It makes it easier to show someone else how to do something, or in the case of the OP, it makes it easier to read and play tab notation. He will have to take an extra step when he tries playing a new song using tab because he has to reverse the tab.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not telling you how to play your guitar. That is your business. I'm just giving you a suggestion to make it easier on you as your skill increases.

P.S. Jimmy did play a right-handed guitar left-handed, but he also transposed the strings so they matched a left-handed guitar. He was essentially playing a left-handed guitar.

 

[ITJunkie]

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: Fritzo
What? Dude, you finger pick that. It's a standard guitar shape.

No I don't. I do exactly what I suggested he do. When I'm playing rock. Of course, if I ever pick up a guitar nowadays it's my classical, and I don't even touch a pick. But if I play my electric with some Hendrix I mute strings to strum stuff like that.

If you can get it to sound right like that, more power to you. I'm just saying that's not how "he" (or most other people) would do it. Nearly all rock guitarists use their free fingers to snap strings along with their pick. Here's a quick example:

The Lemon Song (Led Zeppelin):

E|--0--0---0--0---0--0---0
B|--0--0---0--0---0--0---0
G|--------------------------
D|--------------------------
A|--------------------------
E|--0--0---4--4---5--5---7

Here you would use your pick for the 6th string and your 4th&5th fingers for the E&B strings. This technique was widely used by blues and jazz artists in the 40's and 50's (who frequently didn't use picks). Blues begat rock, so there we are. For masters of this technique, check out Scotty Moore, Greg Allman, Lindsey Buckingham, and Mark Knopfler .

Add Jeff Beck to that list as well. When I played the blues, I used this technique all the time as well. You can really get some great tones playing around with this idea but learning to control the attack of the pick so that string doesn't dominate the "finger plucked" strings took me a little time to work out.

 

[erikistired]

1969 Fender Stratocaster, original pick-ups, maple neck, strung upside down for a left-handed motherf'king genius, Jimi Hendrix.

have none of you people seen the adventures of ford fairlane?