Gulf WarSyndrom Decorated Vet to be Executed

[EagleKeeper]

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Valid Excuse?

Should his sentence be commutted to life due to circumstances?

 

[iamwiz82]

no, he raped and murdered a woman. He is no better than scum.

 

[Thegonagle]

He should rot in prison. I don't beleive that the death penalty does any good. Nobody should kill anybody. Besides, death is too easy on the prisoner. Wouldn't a long, miserable life mopping the floor and making license plates be worse than death?

Golf war syndrome? That's yet another issue. Whether he suffers mental problems as a result of the war I do not know. I did not know him before the war, and I don't know him now. He may have been a crazy freak long before he went into the military, he might not have been.

But excuses should not get him off the hook for his crime. His sentence should be life in prison, not death at the hands of prison.

 

[brxndxn]

He should rot in prison. I don't beleive that the death penalty does any good. Nobody should kill anybody. Besides, death is too easy on the prisoner. Wouldn't a long, miserable life mopping the floor and making license plates be worse than death?

Paying a person $30,000 a year to annoy him would also probably be worse than death. But, it is too expensive. Just fry the bastard. It's cheaper. I want my money to go towards schools, roads, and police. I don't want to pay for a rapists' food for the next 40 years.

 

[Thegonagle]

Originally posted by: brxndxn

He should rot in prison. I don't beleive that the death penalty does any good. Nobody should kill anybody. Besides, death is too easy on the prisoner. Wouldn't a long, miserable life mopping the floor and making license plates be worse than death?

Paying a person $30,000 a year to annoy him would also probably be worse than death. But, it is too expensive. Just fry the bastard. It's cheaper. I want my money to go towards schools, roads, and police. I don't want to pay for a rapists' food for the next 40 years.

At least it's not very good food.

 

[rudder]

HE FORCED MCBRIDE, at gunpoint, to leave the base and, after raping her in his apartment, took her to a desolate area 30 miles outside of town where he beat her over the head with a tire iron until she was dead. He left her body under a bridge. Tracie McBride was 19 years old.


I don't think that can be attributed to gulf war syndrome and just because he is a veteran doesn't entitle him to do this sort f thing.


Syndrome is characterized by damage to the region of the brain regulating mood, emotions, impulse control and other factors that could explain Jones? violent behavior the night he killed McBride.

You have to be capabale of this before your brain is screwy. Or there would be a lot more troubel form the estimated 100,000 vets suffering from the syndrome.

 

[Amused]

Nifty... more idiots claiming the mythical Gulf Lore Syndrome

 

[Viper GTS]

Apparently he forgot that war is fought against soldiers on the opposing side.

He deserves to die.

Viper GTS

 

[JSClark]

I think the Gulf War Syndrome is a bunch of BS. I know alot of people that have come back from the Gulf and are fine. This guy is just a nutjob.

 

[SP33Demon]

May he rot in he11 after he's executed

 

[notfred]

I'm opposed to the death penalty, but his sentance should not be reduced. Giving preferencial treatment to convicted murderers because of who they used to work for is far more unfair than the death penalty.

 

[40oz]

Originally posted by: brxndxn

He should rot in prison. I don't beleive that the death penalty does any good. Nobody should kill anybody. Besides, death is too easy on the prisoner. Wouldn't a long, miserable life mopping the floor and making license plates be worse than death?

Paying a person $30,000 a year to annoy him would also probably be worse than death. But, it is too expensive. Just fry the bastard. It's cheaper. I want my money to go towards schools, roads, and police. I don't want to pay for a rapists' food for the next 40 years.

I would disagree-- It is not cheaper to sentence someone to death than it is to keep them in prison for the life
Here is some info I found----

THE FINANCIAL COSTS OF THE DEATH PENALTY
Death penalty cases are much more expensive than other criminal cases and cost more than imprisonment for life with no possibility of parole. In California, capital trials are six times more costly than other murder trials. A study in Kansas indicated that a capital trial costs $116,700 <I>more</I> than an ordinary murder trial.Complex pre-trial motions, lengthy jury selections, and expenses for expert witnesses are all likely to add to the costs in death penalty cases. The irreversibility of the death sentence requires courts to follow heightened due process in the preparation and course of the trial. The separate sentencing phase of the trial can take even longer than the guilt or innocence phase of the trial. And defendants are much more likely to insist on a trial when they are facing a possible death sentence. After conviction, there are constitutionally mandated appeals which involve both prosecution and defense costs.

 

[exp]

[no, he raped and murdered a woman. He is no better than scum.

I agree.

 

[Tavis]

Let him be put to death. I don't want to pay the bill for a rapist/murderer for the next 50 years while he rots in prison. There are better things to do with our money.

Edit: Hmm, just saw what was put about the price of the death penalty... I say that is just inexcusable and ridiculous. I still think he should be put to death, even if its not just for the money. Someone that is a risk to society should not be with society.

 

[sandorski]

I'm anti death penalty, so I disagree with execution, but what GWS has to do with his defence for this crime eludes me.

 

[rawoutput]

Originally posted by: sandorski
I'm anti death penalty, so I disagree with execution, but what GWS has to do with his defence for this crime eludes me.

The president can overturn execution orders.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: rawoutput

Originally posted by: sandorski
I'm anti death penalty, so I disagree with execution, but what GWS has to do with his defence for this crime eludes me.

The president can overturn execution orders.

GWS=Gulf War Syndrome

 

[Pliablemoose]

Unless he's been so affected by GWS, he doesn't know right from wrong, or his IQ meets the retarded level, he deserves life in prison or the death sentence, I really don't care which, he beat a woman to death with a tire iron?

As far as the PTSD, everyone has PTSD after a traumatic episode, he has prolonged PTSD, and even the psychiatrists don't think it's an valid rationale for anti-social behavior.

 

[gopunk]

circumstances would be...? he was lonely? wtf.

 

[Ferocious]

Of course I'm still opposed to the death penalty.....so long as the rich, famous, and powerful continue to be exempt from it.

 

[AnyMal]

Timothy McVeigh was also a Gulf War veteran. Did he deserve to live?

 

[Swanny]

I think he should be kept alive, if only to do tests to see about possible poisoning of U.S. troops in Desert Storm.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Boo hoo. I remember another Gulf War Syndrome victim murdering two policemen in St. Paul, Minnesota a few years ago, as it happens.

The thing is (and I speak from experience), nearly every violent criminal has a sad and often sympathetic background. I can't see why Gulf War Syndrome should buy him a whole lot in sentencing.

If, for example, a person is so combat-traumatized that they do not know what they are doing, they may be found not guilty by reason of insanity (my mother presided over a case like this several years ago, in which the defendant was an ARVN veteran who killed a prostitute). Once he is convicted, I can't see how Gulf War Syndrome so fundamentally changes a defendant's case that it should render him ineligible for the death penalty. This sounds like a particularly horrific case, and I can't say I will lose any sleep over his sentence.

 

[pandapanda]

Originally posted by: 40oz

Originally posted by: brxndxn

He should rot in prison. I don't beleive that the death penalty does any good. Nobody should kill anybody. Besides, death is too easy on the prisoner. Wouldn't a long, miserable life mopping the floor and making license plates be worse than death?

Paying a person $30,000 a year to annoy him would also probably be worse than death. But, it is too expensive. Just fry the bastard. It's cheaper. I want my money to go towards schools, roads, and police. I don't want to pay for a rapists' food for the next 40 years.

I would disagree-- It is not cheaper to sentence someone to death than it is to keep them in prison for the life
Here is some info I found----

<STRONG><a class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/dpic.r08.html" target=blank>THE FINANCIAL COSTS OF THE DEATH PENALTY</A></STRONG>
Death penalty cases are much more expensive than other criminal cases and cost more than imprisonment for life with no possibility of parole. In California, capital trials are six times more costly than other murder trials. A study in Kansas indicated that a capital trial costs $116,700 <I>more</I> than an ordinary murder trial.Complex pre-trial motions, lengthy jury selections, and expenses for expert witnesses are all likely to add to the costs in death penalty cases. The irreversibility of the death sentence requires courts to follow heightened due process in the preparation and course of the trial. The separate sentencing phase of the trial can take even longer than the guilt or innocence phase of the trial. And defendants are much more likely to insist on a trial when they are facing a possible death sentence. After conviction, there are constitutionally mandated appeals which involve both prosecution and defense costs.

This is only dealing with the cost of the trials. That is a far cry from the overall cost. An inmate costs a lot to house annually--even if you went on the VERY low side and said it would cost $20,000/year to house this guy, if he lives 9 years it would cost MORE to keep him housed than to just use the death penalty. Of course slow are the wheels of justice, so he likely would end up housed 5-10 years before finally getting put down. Still, he is young and could feasibly spend 50+ years in prison, while taxpayers provide him food, clothing, shelter, internet access, and MEDICAL treatment for his GWS.

 

[Zebo]

This is a bad as saying Satan made me do it. "Gulf war symdrome" has absolutly zero scientific basis in fact and until it does such a argument should'nt even be considered. Even if so he did the crime he must do the time. I don't believe in death penalty but life for this murdering nut.