Gun Control is not about guns. It's about control.

SandEagle

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Gun Control
1. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.
2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.
3. Colt: The original point and click interface.
4. Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.
5. If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?
6. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.
7. Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.
8. If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.
9. Those who trade liberty for security have neither.
10. The United States Constitution (c)1791. All Rights Reserved.
11. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?
12. The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others.
13. 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.
14. Guns only have two enemies; rust and politicians.
15. Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
16. You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.
17. 911: Government sponsored Dial-a-Prayer.
18. Assault is a behavior, not a
19. Criminals love gun control; it makes their jobs safer.
20. If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson.
21. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them.
22. You have only the rights you are willing to fight for.
23. Enforce the gun control laws we ALREADY have; don't make more.
24. When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves.
25. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.

"You may not like guns, and choose not to own one. That is your right. You might not believe in God. That is your choice. However, if someone is breaking into your home the first two things you are going to do are: 1) Call someone with a gun. 2) Pray they get there in time."
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FelixDeCat

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Unfortunately, some people dont understand the need for the peace of mind defensive arms and munition provide. They also dont understand the concept of choice, so they think they must choose for you to satisfy their own insecurities.

If Obama has his way, we will be a disarmed socialist peasantry where only the American drug cartels will be armed as they sell legalized weed. Kind of like Mexico, who also decriminalized possession but that hasnt stopped the criminal element from running parts of the country.

Only a well armed citizenry will deter crime.
 
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cardiac

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So, now there is a comparison between guns and cars as weapons of death?
 

Lemon law

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Since "(1. ) An armed man is a citizen.", an armed citizen shot 28 or so people at a school yesterday. And most of them were children in elementary school.

Maybe a gun is safe in the hands of a sane person, the problem is, that same gun is deadly threat to everyone in the hands of a mentally unbalanced person.

Which is why we all should support the NRA because the NRA stands up for the rights of a mentally unbalanced person to acquire and carry firearms.
 

BladeVenom

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A third of North Korea's population is starving, and the government still hasn't been overthrown. That's successful gun control.
 

Fenixgoon

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We need to change our culture, more or less guns will not help anyone or anything. We are fundamentally broken as a country, and it has nothing to do with guns.

Oh and FYI in 10 states guns ARE more dangerous than cars.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-sugarmann/gun-deaths-exceed-motor-v_b_1536793.html

But violence in America is the problem, not guns.

and heart disease is the number one cause of death each year. should we outlaw fatty foods?

what about cancer? ban all hazardous chemicals?
 

OverVolt

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and heart disease is the number one cause of death each year. should we outlaw fatty foods?

what about cancer? ban all hazardous chemicals?

Not sure why current laws are not creating the utopia yet. We obviously need more laws.
 

blankslate

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and heart disease is the number one cause of death each year. should we outlaw fatty foods?

A person eating fatty foods cannot impose their will on someone else as dramatically as a clinically insane person with a gun who looses it can

thanks for coming up with a worse analogy than the gun vs. car debate.
 

OverVolt

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Since "(1. ) An armed man is a citizen.", an armed citizen shot 28 or so people at a school yesterday. And most of them were children in elementary school.

Maybe a gun is safe in the hands of a sane person, the problem is, that same gun is deadly threat to everyone in the hands of a mentally unbalanced person.

Which is why we all should support the NRA because the NRA stands up for the rights of a mentally unbalanced person to acquire and carry firearms.
He wasn't in the NRA, I'll bet you a mass murder has never been done by someone in the NRA honestly.
 
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SandEagle

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A person eating fatty foods cannot impose their will on someone else as dramatically as a clinically insane person with a gun who looses it can

thanks for coming up with a worse analogy than the gun vs. car debate.

a fatty can tip over and kill someone. a fatty tipping over on a bus driver can cause death to everyone on board. a fatty getting lodged in a plane propeller has the potential of bringing the plane down. your argument is fail.
 

tokie

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He wasn't in the NRA, I'l bet you a mass murder has never been done by someone in the NRA honestly.

But they perpetrate the idea that is okay to use a gun. They keep guns in the spotlight.

I will mention this simple fact again: a nutjob with a gun is deadlier than a nutjob without a gun.
 

OverVolt

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But they perpetrate the idea that is okay to use a gun. They keep guns in the spotlight.

I will mention this simple fact again: a nutjob with a gun is deadlier than a nutjob without a gun.

Its true, but how do you fix a problem that is 0.5% of all crime without making citizens unarmed and the criminals armed for the other 99.5% of crimes.
 

tokie

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Its true, but how do you fix a problem that is 0.5% of all crime without making citizens unarmed and the criminals armed for the other 99.5% of crimes.

Citizens have no need to be armed with mass killing machines.

Hell, I am against government intervention. I am against having an army. I don't think there is any need for that shit in this modern world.

You may argue that only 0.5% of the crimes are using 'legal' weapons, but the fact is that these companies are manufacturing guns because people are buying them LEGALLY. If you cut off their demand then they don't manufacture anymore.

Guns are also too cheap. Why don't they tax the shit out of them like cigarettes?
 

Number1

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The fear is palpable. Obama is coming for your guns guys. What will you poor Americans do without your guns?

Look north of the border.

We're doing OK.
 

pontifex

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Since "(1. ) An armed man is a citizen.", an armed citizen shot 28 or so people at a school yesterday. And most of them were children in elementary school.

Maybe a gun is safe in the hands of a sane person, the problem is, that same gun is deadly threat to everyone in the hands of a mentally unbalanced person.

Which is why we all should support the NRA because the NRA stands up for the rights of a mentally unbalanced person to acquire and carry firearms.

where do you guys get all this bullshit from? seriously? where? please show me. actually no, don't show me. I don't want to see the inside of your ass.
 

Farmer

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How many drunk drivers didn't kill anyone yesterday?

You are insinuating that lawful owners of firearms are all just as irresponsible as people who would drive drunk?

I don't know whether I should be insulted or sad.
 

jpeyton

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How many drunk drivers didn't kill anyone yesterday?
So you're on board with reinstating prohibition?

Because alcohol serves an entirely recreational purpose in our society.

11,000 drunk driving fatalities could be eliminated every year if we banned alcohol. Coincidentally, that is the same number of firearms-related homicides we had in 2011 according to the CDC.

We let anyone 21 and over, with a few dollars in their pocket, buy alcohol. You could be a felon, mentally unstable, suicidal, etc. No background check needed to pick up fifth of vodka.

As a society, we decided that we wouldn't punish tens of millions of responsible alcohol consuming adults for the mistakes of a relative few criminals.
 
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