Gun people: Is it possible to hit a quarter at 50 yards with a .380?

[schmuckley]

*snip-double

 

[schmuckley]

I'm just curious.

I heard someone once say they could consistently hit a quarter sized target at 50 yards with a .380 handgun. Does anyone think this is possible?

I am pretty proud of myself when I keep all my shots on target at 25 yards with a 9mm and standard targets. Am I a bad shot or was the other guy telling stories?

Maybe if it looks like this:

https://www.czechpoint-usa.com/vz-61-scorpion-blem--380-auto-?l=1]

I call shennanigans, though.

 

[waggy]

JohnOfSheffield could do it.

LOL This is what i was going to post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fwb-9aYDa0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ3XwizTqDw

but then again, this is probably all this guy does day in and day out.

that guy is a freak.

 

[phucheneh]

Maybe if it looks like this:

https://www.czechpoint-usa.com/vz-61-scorpion-blem--380-auto-?l=1]

I call shennanigans, though.

I was going to vote for this as the most likely candidate:

http://grandpower.eu/kategoria-14-clanok-434-detail-roxor-#ad-image-1

Or some other competition pistol made for the South American market (where they often shoot .380 instead of 9mm due to legal restrictions).

 

[rudeguy]

I was going to vote for this as the most likely candidate:

http://grandpower.eu/kategoria-14-clanok-434-detail-roxor-#ad-image-1

Or some other competition pistol made for the South American market (where they often shoot .380 instead of 9mm due to legal restrictions).

It was a p238 according to the person.

 

[SKORPI0]

Quarter 100 Yards with a Ruger Mark II (.22 caliber)

Hard to do with a .380, better luck with a .22.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I take it this is the same person who claimed to have done this, repeatedly, at a store that does not have a 50-yard range? He is . . . some piece of work.

 

[phucheneh]

It was a p238 according to the person.

HAHAHAHA.

So, a 2.7" tilt-barrel .380? That's possibly the most absurd weapon he could have come up with.

At least my P290 has the benefit of a coned barrel, which makes a solid lockup actually possible:

It's actually a VERY accurate gun. Arguably the best you will get in that size unless the barrel is fixed to the frame ('blowback'). Obviously, I would still make no such claims about shooting quarters.

With the P238, though, there has to be enough slop between the barrel and slide to allow for the barrel to tilt so the breach can unlock. At least the Glock 42 has the benefit of an extra half inch of barrel...and obviously, if you believe whatever mag those benchrest accuracy results came from, it is still FAR from accurate enough to accomplish this feat.

Start naming names.

 

[Puppies04]

I'm just curious.

I heard someone once say they could consistently hit a quarter sized target at 50 yards with a .380 handgun. Does anyone think this is possible?

I am pretty proud of myself when I keep all my shots on target at 25 yards with a 9mm and standard targets. Am I a bad shot or was the other guy telling stories?

You sure he didn't say a quarter of a barn door?

 

[glenn1]

You sure he didn't say a quarter of a barn door?

Or maybe instead of a standard B18-style silhouette target he means a 4 rounds target sheet, thus a "quarter." That he could consistently hit *the sheet* at 50 yards with a .380 I can believe, not a coin-sized target consistently. I'm a pretty decent rifle shot and I doubt I could "consistently" plink a quarter coin with an M4 carbine shooting freehand with iron sights considering you get about 3-4 MOA stock OOB and need around 2 MOA for 1" groups at 50 yards. For the dude OP speaks of I'd be surprised if he could hit a coin at all @ 50 yards given a .380 and a full magazine of ammunition much less repeatedly.

This instead of that:

 

[gorcorps]

It was a p238 according to the person.

What a dillweed

He'd have a better chance of hitting a quarter if he just threw the gun at it

 

[Merad]

I'm a pretty decent rifle shot and I doubt I could "consistently" plink a quarter coin with an M4 carbine shooting freehand with iron sights considering you get about 3-4 MOA stock OOB and need around 2 MOA for 1" groups at 50 yards.

I would say shooting 2 MOA offhand with iron sights is pretty impressive. On a very good day with my Marlin 60 (which has Tech Sights) I can hold a 1" group at 25 yards, which is about 4 MOA.

 

[Howard]

A US quarter is nominally 0.955". An inch at 50 yards would be 0.52 MOA, or using the 0.955" diameter would be almost exactly 0.5 MOA.

0.5 MOA even with an accurate rifle is difficult to achieve.

 

[LTC8K6]

With the 238 he is more likely to accidentally wound a bigfoot hiding in the tree line in the distance...

 

[JEDIYoda]

I was gonna mention Miculek and say that even he couldn't do it. In general, no handgun is even that mechanically accurate, and the person firing it, even less so.

Put a quarter at even just 30 yards and I'd bet world-class IPSC shooters wouldn't be able to hit it with any consistency.

And I'm even disregarding any ballistic inferiority of .380 and assuming that it's getting a large boost in accuracy from a likely fixed barrel design.

all conjexture....no proof!!

 

[glenn1]

I would say shooting 2 MOA offhand with iron sights is pretty impressive. On a very good day with my Marlin 60 (which has Tech Sights) I can hold a 1" group at 25 yards, which is about 4 MOA.

I don't think I even bothered to try testing mine. Once you qualify "Expert" annually on your assigned weapons what's the point? For us it was more a matter of using up our allotment of M855 and other ammunition. After you load up a few hundred (or thousand) rounds into magazines the last thing you were concerned with was taking your time to see how tight of a group you could shoot, you just want to get rid of the crap. Once we just took some to the demo range (really in the desert anywhere might as well have that distinction) and blew the shit up with a few blocks of C4.

 

[SSSnail]

No, but I can do a watermelon at 100 yards with a 9mm, consistently.

 

[LTC8K6]

No, but I can do a watermelon at 100 yards with a 9mm, consistently.

Regular or ditchbank watermelon?

 

[Merad]

A US quarter is nominally 0.955". An inch at 50 yards would be 0.52 MOA, or using the 0.955" diameter would be almost exactly 0.5 MOA.

0.5 MOA even with an accurate rifle is difficult to achieve.

I think you got something flipped there. 1 MOA at 50 yards is a 0.5" group, so 1" @ 50 is 2 MOA.

 

[Merad]

I don't think I even bothered to try testing mine. Once you qualify "Expert" annually on your assigned weapons what's the point? For us it was more a matter of using up our allotment of M855 and other ammunition. After you load up a few hundred (or thousand) rounds into magazines the last thing you were concerned with was taking your time to see how tight of a group you could shoot, you just want to get rid of the crap. Once we just took some to the demo range (really in the desert anywhere might as well have that distinction) and blew the shit up with a few blocks of C4.

Yeah, I don't think being able to shoot the wings off a fly is usually that important in combat. IIRC the army only requires its rifles to be capable of 8 MOA. "Minute of Man" accuracy.

 

[glenn1]

Yeah, I don't think being able to shoot the wings off a fly is usually that important in combat. IIRC the army only requires its rifles to be capable of 8 MOA. "Minute of Man" accuracy.

Accuracy problems can generally be solved by the addition of greater topical application, in higher calibers if needed. Otherwise known as "why use a .380 when an M2 will do?"

 

[phucheneh]

Hitting 300m targets with a beater M16 is still pretty goddamn difficult. I could only do it from a foxhole, resting on sandbags.

 

[Howard]

I think you got something flipped there. 1 MOA at 50 yards is a 0.5" group, so 1" @ 50 is 2 MOA.

Oh, yeah, that would work.

The point still (sort of) stands.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

I think you got something flipped there. 1 MOA at 50 yards is a 0.5" group, so 1" @ 50 is 2 MOA.

What he said.

Regardless, no one is making that 50yd shot without a 50yd long barrel.

 

[schmuckley]

Oh..p238
no..just no.
Maybe this