Gun Porn Thread... Tallbill went shopping again

[jjessico]

Nice shotgun w00t. Here's a picture of my 12 gauges.
http://www.magnumplymouth.com/resserver.php?blogId=1&resource=shotguns.jpg
Hopefully going to add an AR-15 or a 1911 Springfield sometime soon.

 

[Buck Armstrong]

Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Hey tallbill random gun question, Since I just watched it. In enemy at the gates, what are the two sniper weapons used and which was better?(I assume the german one but I don't know)

If I had to guess, the German was using a Mauser 98K and the Russian a Mosin-Nagant.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong

Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Hey tallbill random gun question, Since I just watched it. In enemy at the gates, what are the two sniper weapons used and which was better?(I assume the german one but I don't know)

If I had to guess, the German was using a Mauser 98K and the Russian a Mosin-Nagant.

You dont have to guess.

 

[1sikbITCH]

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: Kilgor

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey

Originally posted by: DVK916
No, I am not confused. Weapons like the AK-47 lead to only killing and suffering. Such
weapons bring evil into the world.

people bring suffering into the world. been happening since well before the invention of any gun.

didn't you already do this in one thread today?

Yes he has, I find him quite humorous in a naive sort of way.

It isn't naive to want to get rid of a weapon that has caused more deaths than any disease.

good luck with that. I am sure Osama will be the first in line to give you his....

Oldie but goodie

 

[JDrake]

Originally posted by: TallBill
Anyways, not that I have 2 Handguns, my wife was already asking to have one of them on her side of the bed's nightstand.

Dual Wield!!
Sweeeet guns I like the upper 2 rifles in the family shot (haha shot)

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Buck_Naked

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Buck_Naked

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: DVK916
As a cop you shouldn't be supporting people owning so many guns.

As a civilian you shouldn't be telling us what we should and shouldn't support.

This thread reminds me that I need to clean my Glock tonight...I squeezed in some quality range time last night. :thumbsup:

Glad to see a cop supporting a citizens right to own a firearm! :thumbsup:

I have some cleaning to do myself.... Link
Pic of me from a recent Advanced Tactial Carbine class in Southern California, I am in the desert camo jacket.

Dave


ETA: Anyone else see the new Sig 556 rifle being introduced to the civilian market tommorow at the SHOT SHOW...?

SIG 556

God damnit, there goes another grand. Must....have.. SIG... rifle.

All I need now is for DSA to actually produce their .223 FAL

Actually I am waiting for FN to offer the civilian version of the SCAR-L and SCAR-H... I would also be interested in FN's FS2000, but would like to handle one first. I don't have much experience with bullpups, other than handling an AUG...

Is DSA going to offer an FNC or just a scaled down version of the FAL? I at one time had a preban FNC, but never shot it. I think the SCAR-L is an improvement on the FNC, if thats what DSA intends to bring to market.

There had been talk of an FNC (and AUG actually, IIRC) from DSA but it never amounted to anything AFAIK.

The .223 is a scaled down model that uses AR mags. DSA showed one off at Shot Show last year and someone over on FALFILES took a bunch of pics.

FNCs are fetching quite the premium these days since those registered auto sears hit the market.

 

[cKGunslinger]

You know, everytime I see this thead title I think it says "Guy Porn Thread." And even more disturbing is the fact that I keep clicking on it.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
You know, everytime I see this thead title I think it says "Guy Porn Thread." And even more disturbing is the fact that I keep clicking on it.

I dont think that I would have admitted that, but ok.

 

[WyteWatt]

Originally posted by: Nebor
I have been thoroughly intrigued by the release of the new Five-Seven USG. Comes with 3 20-round mags, generates nearly as much muzzle energy as your AR15, and weighs 19oz unloaded. And it's way cheaper than the shady non-civilian models were. I think you can pick one up for around $800.

Nearly as much muzzle energy as an AR-15? NO. Are you going to say it's just as accurate at 200 yards too? AR-15 has atleast 50% more muzzle velocity and doesn't use bullets that cost 50 cents a round. $800 is a waste... save $370 and get a brand new FN FNP with 3 mags...

 

[jtusa]

The Rifles

 

[bernse]

By coincidence, just finished cleaning the R22.

Some of the rest of the family:

More..

A little more.....

A couple more to come within the next month (I know a 226 Equinox with my name all over it!) and I'll be a happy Canadian .

 

[iluvtruenos]

Where do you people live that allows such freedoms regarding guns?

Also, what's a good going price for a used M16? Is it in the 5 digits, or 4?

I'm really interested in getting a Winchester 12 gauge rifle from Dick's, and using slugs in that. I assume that cutting down the barrel is illegal in Illinois?

Lastly, what's the process in Illinois for acquiring a 12 gauge and getting slugs instead of buckshot?

 

[WyteWatt]

Originally posted by: iluvtruenos
Where do you people live that allows such freedoms regarding guns?

Also, what's a good going price for a used M16? Is it in the 5 digits, or 4?

I'm really interested in getting a Winchester 12 gauge rifle from Dick's, and using slugs in that. I assume that cutting down the barrel is illegal in Illinois?

Lastly, what's the process in Illinois for acquiring a 12 gauge and getting slugs instead of buckshot?

A real M16 (full auto or 3 round burst) would be in the 5 digits and are illegal to register in your state regardless. You can easily get the AR-15, which is basically the civilian version of the M16. Rock River Arms (coincidentally they're based in Illinois) has an excellent reputation - In fact, my AR-15 has a bunch of parts from them. Also, iirc, barrels under 16" are illegal unless you get a Class 3 tax stamp from the ATF.

 

[bernse]

Originally posted by: iluvtruenos

Lastly, what's the process in Illinois for acquiring a 12 gauge and getting slugs instead of buckshot?

Please say it's not because of your punkins.. is it?

 

[iluvtruenos]

Originally posted by: bernse

Originally posted by: iluvtruenos

Lastly, what's the process in Illinois for acquiring a 12 gauge and getting slugs instead of buckshot?

Please say it's not because of your punkins.. is it?

My what nows?

 

[iluvtruenos]

Wait, so what are the main differences between an AR-15, and M16, and prices.

Also, how hard is it to get it registered, and all that other good stuff.

 

[jtusa]

Originally posted by: iluvtruenos
Wait, so what are the main differences between an AR-15, and M16, and prices.

Also, how hard is it to get it registered, and all that other good stuff.

Packing.org

Site is geared towards CCW, but has other relevant gun and weapon laws divided up by state.

 

[imported_sling]

Originally posted by: bernse

Originally posted by: iluvtruenos

Lastly, what's the process in Illinois for acquiring a 12 gauge and getting slugs instead of buckshot?

Please say it's not because of your punkins.. is it?

Is that an M1 at the top? One of my friends has an issued Garand, but the hack won't let me shoot it. So what if it hasn't been fired in 40 years? I'd really like to get my hands one, but they are still out of my reach, at least for a brand new one.

I REALLY want to get my hands on a five-seven. Like I said in the "who owns a gun" thread, I can't find one for rent at a range. I really don't want to buy it without trying one out first.

They OP just got a new XD. Have they fixed the finish problems that they had with their initial release? Other than the cosmetic issue the firearm is really nice. It rides a little high if you're used to a glock, at least for me it did, but I suppose if you were used to a 92fs or something like that it'd be a perfect fit.

 

[WyteWatt]

Originally posted by: iluvtruenos
Wait, so what are the main differences between an AR-15, and M16, and prices.

Also, how hard is it to get it registered, and all that other good stuff.

You can pretty much buy the exact same rifle the US Army uses, except it will be stamped "AR-15" and it will be semi-auto only. All the scopes, handles, flashlights that the soldiers use on those weapons are commercially available to civilians for the most part. iirc, Illinois requires you to have a Firearms Owner ID before you can purchase a weapon. Do a google search... I think it's a simple application and they do a background check to make sure you haven't committed any felonies. After you get that, you can buy a rifle at any dealer if you're 18+ and a handgun if you're 21+.

As for the M16... machine guns were banned in 1986, so the only M16s you can get had to have been made before then. They have to be registered with the ATF ($200 tax stamp) and go for atleast $15,000 since there are so few around.

 

[iluvtruenos]

So can an AR-15 be converted to an M16?

What is the main mechanical difference between the two guns?

 

[WyteWatt]

Originally posted by: iluvtruenos
So can an AR-15 be converted to an M16?

What is the main mechanical difference between the two guns?

They look the same, they shoot the same round.. currently the M16 used in the army has a 3 round burst option in addition to semi auto. That's pretty much the only difference. Most M16 parts are interchangeable with AR-15s. If you modify an AR-15 for full auto, you will get atleast 10 years in prison.. not worth the risk.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: WyteWatt

Originally posted by: Nebor
I have been thoroughly intrigued by the release of the new Five-Seven USG. Comes with 3 20-round mags, generates nearly as much muzzle energy as your AR15, and weighs 19oz unloaded. And it's way cheaper than the shady non-civilian models were. I think you can pick one up for around $800.

Nearly as much muzzle energy as an AR-15? NO. Are you going to say it's just as accurate at 200 yards too? AR-15 has atleast 50% more muzzle velocity and doesn't use bullets that cost 50 cents a round. $800 is a waste... save $370 and get a brand new FN FNP with 3 mags...

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_144_24/ai_57886949/pg_2

This is a shame. The 5.7mm has tremendous potential in guns like the Contender for real accuracy in the hunting field or target range.

The SS190 ammunition weighs approximately half as much as standard 9mm or 5.56x45 mm ammunition, and has a smaller volume than either. This means you can effectively carry twice as much.
The recoil impulse of the SS190 round is 1/3 that of the 5.56x45 mm and 2/3 that of the 9mm. This translates to one being able to get second and third shots off quicker, or in the case of a full-automatic fire, being able to empty an entire magazine and keep your shots within a 9 inch circle at 50 feet.
The SS190 round transfers nearly all of its energy into its target, minimizing "over-penetration" and reducing the risk of causing negative collateral damage. This is significantly better than the 9 mm, which loses only 30% of its energy in the target, as well as frequent over-penetration.
The SS190 will penetrate a wide variety of body armor, whereas the 9mm will not. It comes close to the level of penetration offered by the 5.56x45 mm round. It will not, however, penetrate materials that the 5.56x45 mm round also cannot, like the 4" ceramic plates which cover the heart in Level III armor.
Due to its low profile and high muzzle velocity, the SS190 offers a nearly flat trajectory up to 200 meters. The L191 tracer round precisely matches the trajectory of the SS190.

Why would I want an FNP? FN guns are ugly, I like the Five-seven because of it's unique advantages.

 

[bernse]

Originally posted by: iluvtruenos
So can an AR-15 be converted to an M16?

What is the main mechanical difference between the two guns?

The M16 is the military designation for the adopted select fire version of the AR15. The US military is now largely moving to the M4, which is very closely related.

The "main" difference? Select fire. Semi/Burst versus semi only for the civy version.

Can a civy AR15 be converted to a Milspec M16? Well, anything is possible, but not necessarily easily done. IIRC, the receives are different widths to eliminate the possibility of a simple parts swap.

 

[iluvtruenos]

Originally posted by: WyteWatt

Originally posted by: iluvtruenos
So can an AR-15 be converted to an M16?

What is the main mechanical difference between the two guns?

They look the same, they shoot the same round.. currently the M16 used in the army has a 3 round burst option in addition to semi auto. That's pretty much the only difference. Most M16 parts are interchangeable with AR-15s. If you modify an AR-15 for full auto, you will get atleast 10 years in prison.. not worth the risk.

Well, then that's out of the question.

 

[BLHealthy4life]

wow, an HK USP knockoff <end sarcasm>