Gunman shoots soldier in Ottawa, shots fired in Parliament

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alcoholbob

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And the Christians during the Crusades were just misunderstood and not real Christians.....lol!

Yeah the Crusades that retook land the Byzantine empire lost to offensive jihad is so comparable, lol good one.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Probably "peaceful" Muslims at work no doubt. A Muslim convert killed a soldier a few days ago. Islamic terror has officially arrived in Canada. Welcome to the club Canada.

Spree shootings like this don't seem their style. I'm betting on conspiracy theorist anti-government nutter type.
 

AnitaPeterson

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Today was the day Nobel Peace Prize recipient Malala Yousafzai was scheduled to receive honorary Canadian citizenship from Prime Minister Stephen Harper in Toronto. She was shot in the head by the Taliban two years ago.

Harper cancelled the ceremony.
 
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AnitaPeterson

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It's not yet over *officially*, but you can feel it in the air. The lockdown on several federal government buildings was lifted, and the employees are told to go home; shuttle services are made available for some.
 

AnitaPeterson

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so what happened?

We're still wondering, ourselves...

All jokes aside, the official story as of 4 PM is as follows:

- 1 Canadian soldier has died from gunshot wounds.
- 1 gunman is dead.
- Police says no one is in custody and that the situation is "fluid" (whatever that means).
- Prime Minister Stephen Harper will address the nation later today.
 

tokie

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Why do we assign the "terrorist" label when a single crazy person kills some people?

Running over two people with your car is hardly terrorism. It is just an ordinary case of murder and should be prosecuted as such.
 

Subyman

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Why do we assign the "terrorist" label when a single crazy person kills some people?

Running over two people with your car is hardly terrorism. It is just an ordinary case of murder and should be prosecuted as such.

I think it starts to cross the line when you are A) doing it at a government or highly public location and B) shooting at random people. They don't seem to be targeting a specific person, so it starts to carry the terrorist act label.
 

Imp

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Why do we assign the "terrorist" label when a single crazy person kills some people?

Running over two people with your car is hardly terrorism. It is just an ordinary case of murder and should be prosecuted as such.

Answer's political...

Sucks for the soldier who was doing essentially ceremonial duty.
 

Nebor

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They're saying the shooter was "radicalized." Probably one of those radicalized vegetarians.
 

StinkyPinky

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Well the guys name is Michael Zehaf-Bibeau so I'm guessing it's the Religion of Peace at it again.

His name is funny though. Isn't Michael a Hebrew name?
 

Jaskalas

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In that case I'll say this.

The "backlash" needs to come from within their own organization. We have to do whatever it takes to make sure that happens.
 

HTFOff

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Canada has a fairly powerful gun lobby as well, FWIW. There are a lot of imported assault rifles (Sig, H&K, FN, Beretta) that you can purchase in Canada that are illegal in the US.

You're forgetting the 5 round capacity limit on anything worth a damn. Any modern center fire semi-auto that you import in canada must be neutered to comply with the capacity limit. Not a very powerful gun lobby when you think about it.
 
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Looks like I was wrong. What did the poor Canucks ever do to them? :'(

There's not much you can do when lone deranged individuals have it in their hearts and minds to do something and go out and latch on to some reason to justify it in their minds.
 

rommelrommel

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lol +1


I did not know that.

Powerful gun lobby not so much, but there are some military style rifles that you can buy here.

That being said many are only legal to take to the range, and pretty much everything scary looking was prohibited in the 80's and 90's, but the list has never been updated.
 
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