Gunpocalypse happened in CA

[Fanatical Meat]

Did CA gun law seriously just become more restrictive than MA law?

What the fuck does that even mean?

I believe that means all rounds need to be loaded by hand into the gun. No interchangeable clips/magazines.
Gun guys obviously what we're doing doesn't seem to work well for mass shootings. What are your suggestions to reduce mass shootings barring everyone being armed everywhere?

 

[mikeymikec]

I'm trying to figure out which I find more irritating: the idea of altering the word 'apocalypse' to suit the latest topic of pants-wetting, or the idea of adding the word 'gate' on the end of everything in order to try and suggest some kind of scandal.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I'm trying to figure out which I find more irritating: the idea of altering the word 'apocalypse' to suit the latest topic of pants-wetting, or the idea of adding the word 'gate' on the end of everything in order to try and suggest some kind of scandal.

When stupid is so common in policy making it's hard to find new descriptors.

 

[michal1980]

No you fucking dipshit, that's why I put anti gun in quotes, it's because gun nutters treat anyone that isn't one of them as anti gun.

I seriously have no idea how you can be so fucking stupid and still post on a message board.

wrong wrong wrong.

 

[bozack]

Of course it has nothing to do with the actions of the pro gun crowd, it has to do with their inaction! Are you fucking stupid or do you just like saying stupid shit?

The NRA was at one point agreeable to some form of compromise, until nutbags like you started to want more than just some middle ground which forced the NRA and its members to get more defensive. To be fair I believe it was intentional on the left as they seldom seem to enjoy compromise so the rational was wait it out until the public sentiment shifts by using some tragic events to their favor.

 

[bozack]

Did CA gun law seriously just become more restrictive than MA law?

What the fuck does that even mean?

CA has been more restrictive than MA for a while as they had required tools to be used to remove mags on the semi auto rifles which matched the stylistic profile of an AR15, manufacturers got around this with the bullet button mechanism, but here in MA there is no current restriction on removable mags.

I believe that means all rounds need to be loaded by hand into the gun. No interchangeable clips/magazines.
Gun guys obviously what we're doing doesn't seem to work well for mass shootings. What are your suggestions to reduce mass shootings barring everyone being armed everywhere?

EDIT: so it does look like they were broad with this and just said you cant use a tool, I can't see manufactures re-engineering AR15s to load directly into them so I am guessing it will mean using systems such as the one I linked below


http://www.ammoland.com/2014/04/armaglock-how-to-installation-guide/#axzz4DLjxADm0

 

[Artdeco]

I'm trying to figure out which I find more irritating: the idea of altering the word 'apocalypse' to suit the latest topic of pants-wetting, or the idea of adding the word 'gate' on the end of everything in order to try and suggest some kind of scandal.

It's a California thing, they use it a lot.

 

[Puffnstuff]

When you have a concealed carry permit it's wise to know what states offer reciprocity with your state so you know where else you can legally carry your piece.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Of course it has nothing to do with the actions of the pro gun crowd, it has to do with their inaction! Are you fucking stupid or do you just like saying stupid shit?

Inaction... hmmm. Five years down the road, if these restrictions are still in place, and there is no tangible effect on crime / murder / terror / mass shootings with firearms (as I imagine will be the case), then do you think the NRA will be more likely to ease up, or more likely to become more extreme in their pro-gun stance? Just like the GOP created Trump, the anti-gun left and stupid laws like this have created today's NRA and today's "gun nutters" that aren't willing to give up more ground. Stupid laws like this make me more concerned with conserving the 2nd amendment.

 

[Double Trouble]

I'm starting to wonder if we're getting close to the point where gun owners will start using their guns exactly to do what the constitutional framers intended: to ensure that rights don't get taken away. At what point do some gun owners basically say "I've had enough" and start taking out the government officials that are stomping all over their rights.... Would essentially be impossible to stop, just like lone wolf terrorists are essentially impossible to stop.

 

[bruceb]

The way this country is going, yes, there is going to be another revolution. It is only a question of if we see it in our lifetimes or if will be in your childrens lifetimes. But you can just about be sure it will happen.

 

[SlowSpyder]

The way this country is going, yes, there is going to be another revolution. It is only a question of if we see it in our lifetimes or if will be in your childrens lifetimes. But you can just about be sure it will happen.

Unfortunately if the country breaks in two, I doubt there will be a socially progressive non-religious pro-gun state (ideal for me). I don't want to have to live in Jesusland to have a firearm.

 

[MongGrel]

I still have about 4 x 20 round M-16 mags laying around, gave a couple to a buddy that bought an AR-15 decades ago.

And still don't have an AR-15

 

[1prophet]

Now we can see if the apathetic Americans will finally wake up and make their Second Amendment rights an important metric in deciding who to vote for and actually follow through on the voting or just rant and rave while another one of their hard won rights slowly dies a death of a thousand legal cuts.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

 

[Jhhnn]

I'm starting to wonder if we're getting close to the point where gun owners will start using their guns exactly to do what the constitutional framers intended: to ensure that rights don't get taken away. At what point do some gun owners basically say "I've had enough" and start taking out the government officials that are stomping all over their rights.... Would essentially be impossible to stop, just like lone wolf terrorists are essentially impossible to stop.

Shit talkin' fool.

 

[Jhhnn]

The NRA was at one point agreeable to some form of compromise, until nutbags like you started to want more than just some middle ground which forced the NRA and its members to get more defensive. To be fair I believe it was intentional on the left as they seldom seem to enjoy compromise so the rational was wait it out until the public sentiment shifts by using some tragic events to their favor.

What concrete proposals did they make?

 

[bozack]

What concrete proposals did they make?

its a waste of time even trying to have any type of a reasonable discussion with you so here is my not bothering.

 

[Jhhnn]

its a waste of time even trying to have any type of a reasonable discussion with you so here is my not bothering.

In other words, you can't come up with any compromise proposals from the NRA, probably because they never offered any.

 

[Knowing]

Does anyone here think that this will have a meaningful impact on crime and rifle fatalities in California? If so, how?

In the light of this probably wholly ineffective and overreaching state law, do you think that the NRA is unjustified in their resistance to legislation that seeks not to save lives but simply make it more difficult for law abiding citizens to own firearms?

Do you think that this action will make them more apt to come to the table?

In closing, to the people who advocate for the "If you don't "cooperate" and let us neuter your rights piecemeal, we'll ram this down your throat" method of gun legislation - do you actually believe there will be no consequences for doing exactly what they said you wanted to do? How long will you wait before the next time you claim that the slippery slope doesn't exist and no one actually wants to take away all the funs?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

And still don't have an AR-15

Nor do I, I prefer my Remington Model 740, .308 semi auto rifle. I have both original 4 round and aftermarket 10 round magazines.

 

[Artdeco]

Nor do I, I prefer my Remington Model 740, .308 semi auto rifle. I have both original 4 round and aftermarket 10 round magazines.

I now have 8, just shipped one to HI.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Does anyone here think that this will have a meaningful impact on crime and rifle fatalities in California? If so, how?

In the light of this probably wholly ineffective and overreaching state law, do you think that the NRA is unjustified in their resistance to legislation that seeks not to save lives but simply make it more difficult for law abiding citizens to own firearms?

Do you think that this action will make them more apt to come to the table?

In closing, to the people who advocate for the "If you don't "cooperate" and let us neuter your rights piecemeal, we'll ram this down your throat" method of gun legislation - do you actually believe there will be no consequences for doing exactly what they said you wanted to do? How long will you wait before the next time you claim that the slippery slope doesn't exist and no one actually wants to take away all the funs?

Don't you know the rights that matter are the ones that a given person supports. Many people could care less who's rights are taken away as long as the rights they care about are safe.

 

[Kwatt]

In other words, you can't come up with any compromise proposals from the NRA, probably because they never offered any.

I have not a seen compromise from either side. Have a link to some?

.

 

[Artdeco]

I have not a seen compromise from either side. Have a link to some?

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Just put him on ignore, he's one of those members of the free army.

 

[Jhhnn]

I have not a seen compromise from either side. Have a link to some?

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I never said there was. Bozack made an assertion wrt to the NRA & i asked him to provide evidence in support. None has been provided.