That's kind of the problem isn't it, the NRA doesn't represent gun owners. If they did they would be supporting legislation their members overwhelmingly support and they would be introducing legislation that made sense and protected their members rights and their hobby at the same time.
The legislation that is NRA/CRPA/CGF supported doesn't even make it out of committee in CA, because the Libruls refuse to consider any pro-gun legislation.
E.g.
Standardization of CCW policies across the state
Modifications to the "safe handgun roster" (which right now is acting as a de-facto ban on any new handguns being sold in the state)
You're missing the point of my statement. The NRA isn't a legislator, they have neither need nor reason to compromise in any way. Doing so actually runs counter to their status as an advocacy organization pushing for the interests of its members. Do you expect abortion rights groups to "compromise" on TRAP legislation, or LGBTQ groups to compromise on discrimination laws? And what incentive would the CA legislature dominated by Democrats have to accept a compromise anyway?
The legislation that is NRA/CRPA/CGF supported doesn't even make it out of committee in CA, because the Libruls refuse to consider any pro-gun legislation.
E.g.
Standardization of CCW policies across the state
Modifications to the "safe handgun roster" (which right now is acting as a de-facto ban on any new handguns being sold in the state)
I don't expect the NRA to compromise, certainly not under their current whacked out leadership. Bozack claimed earlier that they were willing. That's clearly not the case.
In other words, you can't come up with any compromise proposals from the NRA, probably because they never offered any.
I don't expect the NRA to compromise, certainly not under their current whacked out leadership. Bozack claimed earlier that they were willing. That's clearly not the case.
That's kind of the problem isn't it, the NRA doesn't represent gun owners. If they did they would be supporting legislation their members overwhelmingly support and they would be introducing legislation that made sense and protected their members rights and their hobby at the same time.
So when do you start asking about what compromises that states should be willing to make WRT gun control? So far the demand for concessions all seem to work in one direction.
You mean any newly introduced handguns that aren't on the list, obviously.
A wide variety of new handguns are available OTC in California.
Pretty much. I'm pretty sure that extremists were all twisted back in the 30's when they couldn't mail order a Thompson or a BAR any more. The right of the govt of the people to restrict availability of types of firearms is well established as entirely constitutional. So long as a wide variety of rifles, shotguns & even handguns are available then firearms extremists will gain little sympathy or support from the general public.
Don't handguns have to be renewed every 5 years?
Only non semi-autos except for the ones currently on the list right?
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http://www.guns.com/2016/01/06/californias-incredible-shrinking-handgun-roster-turns-16/
so no luck getting a VP9, P30SK, or anything modern and reliable in that state, but hey its what the liberals want.
No as I said before even attempting to highlight how in the past the NRA was more open to sensible regulations would be wasted on a nutter such as yourself, as others have already pointed out.
With this topic and the left there is no compromise, and your positions in this and other threads exemplify that.
Its no wonder the NRA has become as extremist as they have because they watch as liberal politicians do everything in their power to expand controls on gun ownership and owners and do little to nothing to effectively enforce the regulations currently on the books.
Again its a waste of my time with you as just like those in CA you feel as if you're on the same mission...but the rest of us know there was a time when reasonable suggestions were not discounted but given the attack of the left they are doing all which they can, which is get their members riled up in the hopes that they make lives for their elected representatives as difficult as possible should they further reduce the second amendment rights of law abiding citizens.
http://www.guns.com/2016/01/06/californias-incredible-shrinking-handgun-roster-turns-16/
so no luck getting a VP9, P30SK, or anything modern and reliable in that state, but hey its what the liberals want.
As someone mentioned in the comments I almost feel the manufactures should just stop selling in California to everyone, including government agencies.
Exaggerate often? Obviously.
As if the Beretta M9, our standard military issue or the Glock 22 carried by most police officers aren't "modern & reliable". They're available OTC in California.
But do dig that hole a little deeper.
Some animals are more equal.Thanks.
Interesting that Law Enforcement can still buy "Unsafe Handguns"
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This is what gun nutters get. When you oppose anything and everything and cry wolf anytime someone tries to fix an issue you are setting yourself up to get the very thing you oppose.
If you don't want the "anti gun" folks writing gun laws then the gun nutters had better start coming up with real solutions to the issues Americans care about in regards to guns.
You know what I really want? For no reason at all?
The VP70. Just cuz.
shorty, you sort of hurt the cause, could you perhaps refrain from posting?
So you still can't show any concrete evidence that the NRA is willing to compromise but you're entirely willing to obfuscate with a broad spectrum of unsupported generalities. NRA rigidity & fear mongering aren't of their own making but rather a reaction to evil Libruhl gun grabbers, obviously.
Oh, and Wayne LaPierre isn't a nutbar, either.
Exaggerate often? Obviously.
As if the Beretta M9, our standard military issue or the Glock 22 carried by most police officers aren't "modern & reliable". They're available OTC in California.
But do dig that hole a little deeper.
Let me just start with you're an idiot...
Tired of repeating myself, the days of compromise are long since gone given folks of your sort were never interested in "sensible" regulations...if they were then more of an effort to enforce the currently laws would have expended instead of simply trying to sprawl out more and more restrictive legislation.
As mentioned above the NRA is a group that represents enthusiast owners, they do not write policy so given the lefts attack on their members and enthusiasts why on earth should they compromise their positions?
What is this "OTC" you keep referring to, if its "over the counter" then I would say you sound like the complete moran you are.
There is no "over the counter" in states like CA and MA, only licensed individuals can purchase, and as the article stated there have been virtually no new additions to the states approved for purchase handgun roster. See any P30SKs, VP9s, PPQ, or other modern handguns on that list?
MA is bad but not that bad as at least we eventually get some new stuff.
Again hopefully manufactures stop selling to government agencies in these regions.
Exaggerate often? Obviously.
As if the Beretta M9, our standard military issue or the Glock 22 carried by most police officers aren't "modern & reliable". They're available OTC in California.
But do dig that hole a little deeper.
Let me just start with you're an idiot...
Tired of repeating myself, the days of compromise are long since gone given folks of your sort were never interested in "sensible" regulations...if they were then more of an effort to enforce the currently laws would have expended instead of simply trying to sprawl out more and more restrictive legislation.
As mentioned above the NRA is a group that represents enthusiast owners, they do not write policy so given the lefts attack on their members and enthusiasts why on earth should they compromise their positions?
What is this "OTC" you keep referring to, if its "over the counter" then I would say you sound like the complete moran you are.
There is no "over the counter" in states like CA and MA, only licensed individuals can purchase, and as the article stated there have been virtually no new additions to the states approved for purchase handgun roster. See any P30SKs, VP9s, PPQ, or other modern handguns on that list?
MA is bad but not that bad as at least we eventually get some new stuff.
Again hopefully manufactures stop selling to government agencies in these regions.