Gutiar Hero/Rockband

BlackTigers

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Jan 15, 2006
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Okay, so I bought my brothers an X360 for Christmas. It was the arcade version, and came with Guitar Hero 3 and a guitar.

But I'm in love with drums. I'll play the rockband in Bestbuy for hours at a time, I love it.

I can get the RB2 drums for $49, will those work with Guitar hero 3? I don't see any GH3 drum sets separate from the ridiculous kits, and I'm not looking forward to tossing $140 towards rockband just for the drums, lol. =]


 

RagingBITCH

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Um, GH3 doesn't have drums. GH:WT does. And if you mean GH:WT, then yes, the RB drums work with it.
 

juiio

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The RB2 drums are by far the best, but are you sure that it is the RB2 drums for $49 and not the RB1 drums? The RB1 drums are not very good at all.
 

jdport

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If you don't have RB1, GH:WT, or RB2 then I think the better choice is RB2 for the simple reason that you can then borrow a copy of RB1 or rent it and import all the songs off of it for $5. Just for the pure number of songs I think that if you are going to choose one or the other RB2 is the way to go. I haven't seen GH:WT in person other than in Best Buy demos... so it's hard for me to comment too much on any other reasons to buy one over the other.... after Thursday morning I'll have more to say on that because i've got a GH:WT band set sitting under my Christmas tree waiting for me

 

BRObedoza

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I love Rock Band 2 but i really like the GH:WT drum set. i wish they sold it separately.

If you're new to the game I'd go with the Rock Band 2 set. the songs they have available for DLC is just amazing.
 

I4AT

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Oct 28, 2006
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I'm sort of interested in getting a band game, but I'm still trying to figure out which one. From what I've read the RB1 drum set has a pedal that breaks easily, and pads that lose sensitivity over time, and apparently there's been 3 revisions to the drum controller already.

A lot of the reviews on Amazon for GH:WT have complaints of drum pads that won't register out of the box. I'm kind of leaning towards the GH:WT set though because from what I've read there's an extra note on their drum kit which would make RB1/2 instruments incompatible with GH:WT, but the GH drums would still work with RB should I choose to eventually pick up all 3.

I'm thinking I should start with GH:WT then get just the RB2 game, and I can import the RB1 songs to RB2 for $5 right? Has anyone had any bad experiences with the instruments from any of these games? Or tried all 3 and prefer one over the other?
 

Fallen Kell

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I have had RB since the day it came out and I have not broken the drums pedal... Basically if you don't pound on it, it won't break. Yeah, if you are a drummer already, and are use to hitting that pedal hard to get some sound out of your bass drum, then yes, you will break the pedal. You will also break the GH:WT pedal, and the RB2 pedal... Give it some respect, and don't beat on it and it will last. No, there is no extra "note" on the GH:WT drums that makes the RB drums incompatible. The GH:WT drums only has 3 "drum" pads and 2 "cymbal" pads, HOWEVER, both "cymbal" pads play the same thing (i.e. it doesn't matter if you hit the left or right cymbal, they both do the same action). The RB drum kit has 4 "drum" pads (and the RB2 kit has extensions for 2 cymbal pads, but again they double as the same as a drum pad hit), so in other words, both kits have 5 "buttons", (RB kit has 4 pads + 1 kick (2 cymbal optional); GH 3 pads + 1 cymbal (second cymbal uses same button) +1 kick).

RB also has an elite kit coming, which is really a full electronic drum kit which has a USB connection that will output in compatible controller output as well as the normal MIDI interface. But this is going to be as expensive as a real electronic drum kit, since it is one...

I really wouldn't get the GH:WT kit as it has been said, it really SUCKS. The hits are not accurate at all, it is either too sensitive or not sensitive enough. The pads simply do not work well.

All things considered, if I was to start now and pick what I buy, I would get the RB2 full kit (i.e. guitar, drums, mic, game), and a second RB2 guitar. Now, a lot of people have a preference on the guitar. Some like the GH guitars better, others like the RB guitars better. I am of the prefer the RB guitar. It might not be as durable as the RB guitar (while the original batch had issues, the replacements that were sent out for people with broken ones seem to have resolved the problems). I like the fret buttons about a thousand times better on the RB guitars than on the GH guitar. The RB guitar is just more like a real guitar in terms of sliding up/down the frets, there is no huge piece of fretwire that is going to stop your fingers from sliding up/down a real guitar because your finger is sliding up/down the string which sits on top of that fretwire, but with the GH guitars, you have this huge piece of plastic in the way (to which I took a dremel to help alleviate the issue). The strum bar is better on the GH guitars in terms of tactile feedback, but it certainly makes a lot of noise. I prefer the quieter effect of the RB guitar with the sacrifice of tactile feedback. I mean, this is a music game afterall, I would rather not hear more clicking than I have to from the instruments....
 

I4AT

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Hmm, so they all have 4 pads and a kick, with the cymbals being optional for a more authentic feel I guess? Anybody know if all instrument sets work with all 3 games (Xbox 360)? Or is it do or die GH or RB, I don't want 2 sets of instruments sitting in the living room.

My main concern is compatibility and durability. I can get used to differences in feel between instruments.
 

mugs

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Does the RB2 drum set work well GH:WT? Does the different layout cause any problems? I'd rather get RB 2 because Rock Band seems to be better with regard to DLC and compatibility of songs with future versions. But I really like Metallica, so I'm going to need to get Guitar Hero Metallica when it comes out.
 

I4AT

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Found this on Wikipedia: "World Tour adjusts the tracks in the game to account for the instrument controller being used. For example, sections of the lead guitar track that are designed to be played on the new World Tour controller's touchpad can be played by tapping the frets on older controllers without strumming. When using Rock Band's drum controller, which has one fewer percussion pad than the World Tour unit and lacks velocity sensitivity, two of the lanes on the "World Tour" drum board merge, reducing the note track to four drum pads and bass pedal, and no armored notes are presented."

So now I'm torn. Sounds like if you want the full experience in GH:WT you need their drum kit, but there's also way too many negative reviews on Amazon. I also prefer wired controllers and only the RB1 instruments are wired, unless the RB2 and GH:WT instruments can be converted to wired with USB cables? Think I may end up just getting the Rock Band bundle which is also currently the cheapest (aside from the TRU deal on RB2 which I missed).
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: I4AT
Found this on Wikipedia: "World Tour adjusts the tracks in the game to account for the instrument controller being used. For example, sections of the lead guitar track that are designed to be played on the new World Tour controller's touchpad can be played by tapping the frets on older controllers without strumming. When using Rock Band's drum controller, which has one fewer percussion pad than the World Tour unit and lacks velocity sensitivity, two of the lanes on the "World Tour" drum board merge, reducing the note track to four drum pads and bass pedal, and no armored notes are presented."

So now I'm torn. Sounds like if you want the full experience in GH:WT you need their drum kit, but there's also way too many negative reviews on Amazon. I also prefer wired controllers and only the RB1 instruments are wired, unless the RB2 and GH:WT instruments can be converted to wired with USB cables? Think I may end up just getting the Rock Band bundle which is also currently the cheapest (aside from the TRU deal on RB2 which I missed).

Don't trust user reviews on amazon for video games. Too many losers use it as a forum to voice their dislike for the publishers.
 

bearxor

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GHWT does have 5 separate pads. When using the RB drum set, it seems like they compress the cymbals to the yellow and blue pads and leave the red and green as toms. It plays like shit. If you want a good drumming drumming experience in GH:WT, you need those drums. However, RB2 is quite simply the more fun game with a wider selection of music and kick-ass drum mappings.

If you've never played the music genre before, go with the originators that made it popular. That would be Rock Band.
 

gar655

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Had to decide between the 2 for Xmas. Got the RB2 kit. Can't stand the clicking on the GH guitar. RB2 game interface is much better. More options for newbs and the talentless like me. DLC 400 songs and counting. Pretty much never run out of songs to play.

The drums work great, the guitar works great, the game is awesome. I had a hard time putting it down.

Gene
 

RandomFool

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One thing that convinced me to stay away from the GH:WT drum kit was the in store demo. Every display version I've seen has been beat up pretty badly while the RB/RB2 set were in much better condition.
 

spunkz

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i got a midi cable for the guitar hero drum kit from their support site and it's a hundred times better now that i can adjust the sensitivity of the cymbals. should have been included from the start.
 

McLovin

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Originally posted by: mugs
Does the RB2 drum set work well GH:WT? Does the different layout cause any problems? I'd rather get RB 2 because Rock Band seems to be better with regard to DLC and compatibility of songs with future versions. But I really like Metallica, so I'm going to need to get Guitar Hero Metallica when it comes out.

You and me both brother. If you are true metallica junkie and you are wanting to get GH:Metallica get world tour. The reason you ask is because of the fact there will be a new difficulty level called Expert+ that adds an extra bass pedal into the mix. Double Bass FTW! Activision says it will work with the GH:WT drum set, but I don't think it will work with the RB2 set. Again, thats only a concern if you are willing to give it a go with the double bass pedals


\m/ >.< \m/
 

JSK07

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Get the ION Drum Kit. Works with either game and can also be made into a stand alone digital drum set. Pricey at $300 but if you want realism it's the way to go.
 

cecco

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I let my brother borrow the game for a while and in his enthusiasm for the drums managed to crack the middle section of the yellow and blue pads in my RB1 drum set. Now it appears that some notes are not registering for those pads even though i got some silencing pads to use as a patch. Is the ION set really worth the price or should i just replace it with a RB2 stand alone?
 
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