Guy at UCLA computer lab gets tasered (now with youtube video!!)

[HardcoreRobot]

smartass pwned
/thread

 

[TehMac]

"Here's your ****** Patriot Act!"
Ahahahahahahaha! What a loser. I wonder if he realizes that police could do this before.
College students. Juveniles.
What a pack of naive fools who regurgitate CNN and the pinko management. Whats America coming to?
And I don't understand why he didn't stand up, the officer said he was gunna get tased, and he keeps getting tased. I hope he dies later. if you're that stupid, you deserve to die.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: Eghck

Originally posted by: chrisg22

Originally posted by: Eghck
disclaimer: I don't know crap about tasers, and Im not a cop.

I don't know why the kid didn't just get up after that 1st tase. He was able to go on that rant about justice or whatever. Seems like he could have stood up. Still 5 times was excessive. If a bouncer can kick a drunk guy out of a club, why couldn't they carry this guy out?

police officers aren't bouncers.....

well I meant, are police not allowed to carry someone out?

Thats what I was wondering. Bouncers will kick you out but not taser you and whack you with a baton unless you're trying to fvck with them. So why couldn't the cops just drag him out?

They....shouldn't.....have.....to. And refusing to walk when they tell you, if you can, is resisting arrest. I don't want the cops who are supposed to respond to a call I make being delayed because they're dragging some idiot a half mile back to their cars.....maybe hurting one of their lower backs in the process. You dragged any 200 pound guys lately?

 

[bucwylde23]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: Mark R
What was he being arrested for?

I was under the impression that you could not be arrested for trespass - you could only be removed if a court issued a restraining order requring you to leave. Maybe that doesn't apply in CA.

You sure you're not confusing trespassing with loitering? Tresspassing will likely get you instantly arrested, anywhere.

Anyways, I only have one thing to say about all of this: LOL. As soon as he mentioned the patriot act, I was happy to hear him get tazed a few more times.

Kind of what I was thinking, in a way
Seems like he kept on doing it because he KNEW that it would cause a huge scene. He's got to be some kind of a lunatic when he starts saying things like 'There's your patriot act". He knew what he was doing, and he got was he deserved. What does the patriot act have to do with trespassing?

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: Eghck

Originally posted by: chrisg22

Originally posted by: Eghck
disclaimer: I don't know crap about tasers, and Im not a cop.

I don't know why the kid didn't just get up after that 1st tase. He was able to go on that rant about justice or whatever. Seems like he could have stood up. Still 5 times was excessive. If a bouncer can kick a drunk guy out of a club, why couldn't they carry this guy out?

police officers aren't bouncers.....

well I meant, are police not allowed to carry someone out?

Thats what I was wondering. Bouncers will kick you out but not taser you and whack you with a baton unless you're trying to fvck with them. So why couldn't the cops just drag him out?

They....shouldn't.....have.....to. And refusing to walk when they tell you, if you can, is resisting arrest. I don't want the cops who are supposed to respond to a call I make being delayed because they're dragging some idiot a half mile back to their cars.....maybe hurting one of their lower backs in the process. You dragged any 200 pound guys lately?

I'm almost certain it wouldn't be half a mile and they would just drive up to the entrance of hte library. At most it's like 500 feet or something. You waste just as much time tasering the guy 5 times who doesn't even want to walk EITHER WAY and then having to deal with rowdy students. IF you just dragged him out (2 guys is enough to drag the guy out, and obviously there were more than 2 officers), you could get him out in a more TIMELY FASHION than you woudl if you tasered him. Plus this wouldn't make the front page of the Daily Bruin and it would NOT result in a 300 post discussion on ATOT. If I were one of hte officers, I would've spoken up and done something.

It's just pure humiliating to yell STAND UP 300 times. I mean are you stupid? If the guy isn't going to stand, will yelling 300 times do a thing? If the guy doesn't respond to multiple taser shots, is he going to move? Just drag him out. It's like trying to get a dead animal to move. Good job geniuses.

 

[Indolent]

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[Fingolfin269]

That video was awesome.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: Eghck

Originally posted by: chrisg22

Originally posted by: Eghck
disclaimer: I don't know crap about tasers, and Im not a cop.

I don't know why the kid didn't just get up after that 1st tase. He was able to go on that rant about justice or whatever. Seems like he could have stood up. Still 5 times was excessive. If a bouncer can kick a drunk guy out of a club, why couldn't they carry this guy out?

police officers aren't bouncers.....

well I meant, are police not allowed to carry someone out?

Thats what I was wondering. Bouncers will kick you out but not taser you and whack you with a baton unless you're trying to fvck with them. So why couldn't the cops just drag him out?

They....shouldn't.....have.....to. And refusing to walk when they tell you, if you can, is resisting arrest. I don't want the cops who are supposed to respond to a call I make being delayed because they're dragging some idiot a half mile back to their cars.....maybe hurting one of their lower backs in the process. You dragged any 200 pound guys lately?

I'm almost certain it wouldn't be half a mile and they would just drive up to the entrance of hte library. At most it's like 500 feet or something. You waste just as much time tasering the guy 5 times who doesn't even want to walk EITHER WAY and then having to deal with rowdy students. IF you just dragged him out (2 guys is enough to drag the guy out, and obviously there were more than 2 officers), you could get him out in a more TIMELY FASHION than you woudl if you tasered him. Plus this wouldn't make the front page of the Daily Bruin and it would NOT result in a 300 post discussion on ATOT. If I were one of hte officers, I would've spoken up and done something.

It's just pure humiliating to yell STAND UP 300 times. I mean are you stupid? If the guy isn't going to stand, will yelling 300 times do a thing? If the guy doesn't respond to multiple taser shots, is he going to move? Just drag him out. It's like trying to get a dead animal to move. Good job geniuses.

Drag him? So he could sue them for rug burns? The students would be pretty up in arms if they did that anyway.

It was a no win situation. They drag him, they're the bad guys. They taze him, theyre the bad guys. They don't taze him, then they essentially send the message to the entire place that the students can have their way with the cops.

It was pretty brutal, but very entertaining.

Did he ultimately deserve it....I'm not sure. But he got what was coming to him.

I just hope the newspaper doesnt start hero worshipping this douchebag. This kid is not MLK.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Question for UCLA students: Is the Daily Bruin an independent newspaper? I know the Daily Cal is, but yea.. just wondering.

 

[Oblivionaire]

The kid obvious;y had some pent up aggression he needed to let out with a good scream. Even if he did scream like a litle girl (haha) Hope he feels better now.

 

[drinkmorejava]

ROFL wtf, he's going to be a horrible econ major, I'd never hire a liberal nutjob like him. and yes...he did ask for.

 

[Umberger]

The kid was a douchebag that didn't listen to the cops. They did their job. He got what he deserved.

/thread.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: MisterJackson


In real life dude, if a cop tells you to do something, just do it, whether you like it or not. If you feel the need to argue your point with them then you simply deserve what you get because common sense dictates that even IF, and a big IF here, even if you are right once you argue with a cop he has more power and authority than you and will excercise it.

That is an idiotic suggestion. As a citizen, you have rights that the police cannot abridge. If they use force to abridge your rights, they're going to be in a world of hurt because they abused their authority and violated your civil rights.

They have to play by the rules, too. If they don't, they're just a thug with a badge and a gun.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Mill
I think the difference is he was leaving when they grabbed his arm (at least according to the paper). That was probably unnecessary and inflamed the situation. Part of being an authority figure is knowing how to peacefully resolve situations and not flanning the flames of a fire.

I think it was very necessary. I'm curious what somebody would be doing with unauthorized access to the Internet and why what he was doing was so important that he defied requests to leave. I'm sure the cops were curious too and may have asked him a couple quick questions before walking him outside. Cops also usually run your ID whenever they stop you for anything down to jaywalking just to check.

He wasn't unauthorized. He was a student at the University. He simply didn't have his ID.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Mill
He wasn't unauthorized. He was a student at the University. He simply didn't have his ID.

Not having his ID is what made him unauthorized.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: DLeRium
Question for UCLA students: Is the Daily Bruin an independent newspaper? I know the Daily Cal is, but yea.. just wondering.

I dont think its an independent paper but i could be wrong

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Mill
I think the difference is he was leaving when they grabbed his arm (at least according to the paper). That was probably unnecessary and inflamed the situation. Part of being an authority figure is knowing how to peacefully resolve situations and not flanning the flames of a fire.

I think it was very necessary. I'm curious what somebody would be doing with unauthorized access to the Internet and why what he was doing was so important that he defied requests to leave. I'm sure the cops were curious too and may have asked him a couple quick questions before walking him outside. Cops also usually run your ID whenever they stop you for anything down to jaywalking just to check.

He wasn't unauthorized. He was a student at the University. He simply didn't have his ID.

How were the authorities supposed to know that he was a student without an ID?

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Mill
I think the difference is he was leaving when they grabbed his arm (at least according to the paper). That was probably unnecessary and inflamed the situation. Part of being an authority figure is knowing how to peacefully resolve situations and not flanning the flames of a fire.

I think it was very necessary. I'm curious what somebody would be doing with unauthorized access to the Internet and why what he was doing was so important that he defied requests to leave. I'm sure the cops were curious too and may have asked him a couple quick questions before walking him outside. Cops also usually run your ID whenever they stop you for anything down to jaywalking just to check.

He wasn't unauthorized. He was a student at the University. He simply didn't have his ID.

How were the authorities supposed to know that he was a student without an ID?

Shocking as it may seem, they could have asked him to go get it and until then leave the lab.

I still don't understand why UCLA doesn't have a login system. We do, and it prevents a non-Uni student from using the labs. There are even labs segregated by major, so that only people of a certain major can use a specific lab. Most of the labs aren't segregated, but some are.

 

[PurdueRy]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Mill
I think the difference is he was leaving when they grabbed his arm (at least according to the paper). That was probably unnecessary and inflamed the situation. Part of being an authority figure is knowing how to peacefully resolve situations and not flanning the flames of a fire.

I think it was very necessary. I'm curious what somebody would be doing with unauthorized access to the Internet and why what he was doing was so important that he defied requests to leave. I'm sure the cops were curious too and may have asked him a couple quick questions before walking him outside. Cops also usually run your ID whenever they stop you for anything down to jaywalking just to check.

He wasn't unauthorized. He was a student at the University. He simply didn't have his ID.

Go drive a car without your license and/or insurance....then tell the cop that you are authorized and he can't take action against you...see what happens

 

[PurdueRy]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Mill
I think the difference is he was leaving when they grabbed his arm (at least according to the paper). That was probably unnecessary and inflamed the situation. Part of being an authority figure is knowing how to peacefully resolve situations and not flanning the flames of a fire.

I think it was very necessary. I'm curious what somebody would be doing with unauthorized access to the Internet and why what he was doing was so important that he defied requests to leave. I'm sure the cops were curious too and may have asked him a couple quick questions before walking him outside. Cops also usually run your ID whenever they stop you for anything down to jaywalking just to check.

He wasn't unauthorized. He was a student at the University. He simply didn't have his ID.

How were the authorities supposed to know that he was a student without an ID?

Shocking as it may seem, they could have asked him to go get it and until then leave the lab.

I still don't understand why UCLA doesn't have a login system. We do, and it prevents a non-Uni student from using the labs. There are even labs segregated by major, so that only people of a certain major can use a specific lab. Most of the labs aren't segregated, but some are.

Um...they asked him to leave the lab...isn't that what started the whole thing?

 

[TehMac]

Yeah, I don't understand why people have to be so difficult. They're an embarrassment to humanity and are amazingly juvenile.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Mill
He wasn't unauthorized. He was a student at the University. He simply didn't have his ID.

Not having his ID is what made him unauthorized.

Oh really?

http://www.clicc.ucla.edu/Hours.php

No mention of needing an ID there.

http://www.clicc.ucla.edu/labservices_whatyouneed.asp

No mention of needing an ID there.

Show me where it says not having an ID makes him unauthorized. To me it sounds like he was authorized, but he didn't have his BruinCard. He should have gone and gotten it. The police should have never even been called.

 

[SampSon]

The police are lucky they weren't the unwilling participants in a riot. Does Kent state ring a bell?

Tazers were not necessary by any stretch of the imagination. The police regularly take down full size men, who have violent intentions, without using a tazer.
In this case it was what, at least 3 fully dressed policemen? One of the officers threatened a bystander when asked for his badge information?
That officer was already starting to cover his ass. The officers weren't even trying to control the crowd. They didn't give their badge information when requested and threatened a citizen on top of that. Incompetence is abound.

On a side note, when did the population (the cross section I see here) become so complacent?

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: PurdueRy

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Mill
I think the difference is he was leaving when they grabbed his arm (at least according to the paper). That was probably unnecessary and inflamed the situation. Part of being an authority figure is knowing how to peacefully resolve situations and not flanning the flames of a fire.

I think it was very necessary. I'm curious what somebody would be doing with unauthorized access to the Internet and why what he was doing was so important that he defied requests to leave. I'm sure the cops were curious too and may have asked him a couple quick questions before walking him outside. Cops also usually run your ID whenever they stop you for anything down to jaywalking just to check.

He wasn't unauthorized. He was a student at the University. He simply didn't have his ID.

Go drive a car without your license and/or insurance....then tell the cop that you are authorized and he can't take action against you...see what happens

Apples to Oranges. Driving a car requires a license. Accessing those computers only requires a Bruin Login (which he obvious had). He simply didn't have his BruinCard. There is a policy not a law which states you are supposed to have your BruinCard after 11. He didn't. He should have left and gotten his card. However, there's no reason to tazer him 5 times because he didn't have his BruinCard with him.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Mill
I think the difference is he was leaving when they grabbed his arm (at least according to the paper). That was probably unnecessary and inflamed the situation. Part of being an authority figure is knowing how to peacefully resolve situations and not flanning the flames of a fire.

I think it was very necessary. I'm curious what somebody would be doing with unauthorized access to the Internet and why what he was doing was so important that he defied requests to leave. I'm sure the cops were curious too and may have asked him a couple quick questions before walking him outside. Cops also usually run your ID whenever they stop you for anything down to jaywalking just to check.

He wasn't unauthorized. He was a student at the University. He simply didn't have his ID.

How were the authorities supposed to know that he was a student without an ID?

Shocking as it may seem, they could have asked him to go get it and until then leave the lab.

I still don't understand why UCLA doesn't have a login system. We do, and it prevents a non-Uni student from using the labs. There are even labs segregated by major, so that only people of a certain major can use a specific lab. Most of the labs aren't segregated, but some are.

It wasnt about using the computers in the lab. It was about creepy dudes being in there after 11pm, why there are random checks in the first place.