Guy films Toyota employees stealing, rummaging and watching porn in his truck

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: vi edit

Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Misleading title - they are/were not Toyota employees. They were employed by an independent dealership that sells and services Toyotas.

That said, I am glad they got busted and fired.

Their shirts still say Toyota on them and the bill you get from them has Toyota on the heading. They still answer to Toyota and are a threat to the brand's image.

If a McDonalds store you visited (that was franchised and not corporate owned) gave you a burger with a dead rat on a bun would you say that you got punked by a McDonald's employee or a person that sold McDonalds food products?

No, the bill will have the dealership's name on the heading and their shirts will also have the dealership's name on them.

In any case, the implication of the thread title is that this is a Toyota-specific instance when that is factually misleading. The issue is with a dealership (which may sell other cars as well as Toyotas). It's kind of like blaming a mall for the actions of one of the stores inside the mall.

While Toyota does have some control over the dealership and can exert corporate influence, it's disingenuous to say that the offending persons were "Toyota employees".

ZV

 

[Gothgar]

wow hahahaha

 

[microAmp]

As far as the theft goes, this is the reason why I clean out my truck completely before letting a mechanic, state inspection, etc., access to my truck. I also only give them the spare key only.

 

[rh71]

he put a camera there on the other door, somehow hidden, and they didn't find it with all that snooping going on?

 

[Clockwerk]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Wrong. Very wrong. You're getting billed the time that guy spends watching porn and if he's doing any work while watching he isn't giving it his full attention.

LOL

Are you posting this from work?

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: Clockwerk

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Wrong. Very wrong. You're getting billed the time that guy spends watching porn and if he's doing any work while watching he isn't giving it his full attention.

LOL

Are you posting this from work?

Nope. Gee, I bet you thought that question was sooooooooooooo clever. How sad.

 

[CZroe]

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: hanoverphist
when i have my car washed ill leave 5 bucks in the ashtray. if its missing when i get to my car, ill let the "boss" know that the missing 5 was their tip and never go back there. its happened at 2 different car washes now, not that big a deal tho. keeps me voting with my cash, since i dont go back to those places.

brilliant

How is this brilliant? Are car wash employees career service employees? So they don't jack your cash one week, but the next week they do. Just don't leave a $5 in the ashtray. Hell the boss will fire the crew and they will go work at the car wash down the street.

Yea....seems like you are out $5 and you now have to drive somewhere else to get your car washed.

Assuming he was gonna drop $5 anyway as a tip, he loses nothing and now knows the workers are crooked

But the problem with that is that you would not tip someone who stole from you. SWISH! If you don't tip for bad service, why tip a crook?

Personally, I'd put $3-$4 in $1 bills because it may actually be MORE tempting to the crooked crooks who would worry about you noticing that none remained vs. exactly how much remained. It risks a little less, may attract a little more, and doesn't reward the crook as much, especially if they only took $1-$3 of it.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: CZroe
But the problem with that is that you would not tip someone who stole from you. SWISH! If you don't tip for bad service, why tip a crook?

Personally, I'd put $3-$4 in $1 bills because it may actually be MORE tempting to the crooked crooks who would worry about you noticing that none remained vs. exactly how much remained. It risks a little less, may attract a little more, and doesn't reward the crook as much, especially if they only took $1-$3 of it.

Because half the time they jack your shit you won't know about it until after the fact


I mean really, we're splitting hairs over $5 here. Use whatever amount you see fit

 

[Passions]

Japanese people would never do such a thing. Change the title.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

hey, i think i have that exact pr0n video. violet is pretty hot.


also video links taken down. anyone have working links?

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: hanoverphist
when i have my car washed ill leave 5 bucks in the ashtray. if its missing when i get to my car, ill let the "boss" know that the missing 5 was their tip and never go back there. its happened at 2 different car washes now, not that big a deal tho. keeps me voting with my cash, since i dont go back to those places.

brilliant

How is this brilliant? Are car wash employees career service employees? So they don't jack your cash one week, but the next week they do. Just don't leave a $5 in the ashtray. Hell the boss will fire the crew and they will go work at the car wash down the street.

Yea....seems like you are out $5 and you now have to drive somewhere else to get your car washed.

the guys rarely get fired. ive never seen one even reprimanded more than lip service while the customer is watching. i used to know a bunch of guys that worked at one, and they never got fired or really punished for doing this. as for driving "farther" to get my car washed, there is more car washes in the area than there are convenience stores. that is saying a lot. i dont have to go very far to find a new one, and since i work, live and play in at least 5 different cities (mesa, chandler, tempe, phoenix and scottsdale) there are many chances to hit new places. id have been out 5 bucks regardless, thats what i tip for a 19 dollar car wash. if my truck is especially grimy ill tip even more. the place ive been going to for 3 years now has never taken the 5, and ill usually tip them 5 or 7 if they hustle.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: CZroe


But the problem with that is that you would not tip someone who stole from you. SWISH! If you don't tip for bad service, why tip a crook?

.

i never said i didnt tip for bad service. actually, ill hook them and make them finish the job before i leave if im not happy with the work. and then i tip.


also unless its an obvious thing youre looking for youll likely not notice it until after leaving. unless you go all OCD and check everything when you sit down. as it is, ill take all my toys out and place them in my laptop case (gun, extra mags, knife, watch, stuff like that) because im not stupid. as for tipping a crook, the other guys know he took it, and once they find out thats their tip they are all over making him put it in.

 

[AbAbber2k]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Clockwerk

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Wrong. Very wrong. You're getting billed the time that guy spends watching porn and if he's doing any work while watching he isn't giving it his full attention.

LOL

Are you posting this from work?

Nope. Gee, I bet you thought that question was sooooooooooooo clever. How sad.

:laugh: :thumbsup:

 

[AmdEmAll]

Yeah this has nothing to do with Toyota...

failed thread

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: hanoverphist
when i have my car washed ill leave 5 bucks in the ashtray. if its missing when i get to my car, ill let the "boss" know that the missing 5 was their tip and never go back there. its happened at 2 different car washes now, not that big a deal tho. keeps me voting with my cash, since i dont go back to those places.

brilliant

How is this brilliant? Are car wash employees career service employees? So they don't jack your cash one week, but the next week they do. Just don't leave a $5 in the ashtray. Hell the boss will fire the crew and they will go work at the car wash down the street.

Yea....seems like you are out $5 and you now have to drive somewhere else to get your car washed.

Assuming he was gonna drop $5 anyway as a tip, he loses nothing and now knows the workers are crooked

Seems a little silly to say you don't want thieves washing your car, because that's all you're doing. Don't give them a chance to steal and they can't. You get your car washed and go on about your life. I see no reason to actively pursue crooked car washers.

 

[QueBert]

put $5 in the ashtray, dude at car wash steals it. You tell the boss what happened, *IF* he gets fired, since car washes have one of the highest turn over rates of any place. Unless you take your car to a car wash thats very far away from where you live. There's a scarily decent chance you could get that same dude at the next car wash. Do this 5 times, the guy is up $25 on you

They don't check people they hired for shit like stealing, so chances are the one you get fired will pop up at another location the next day. But chances are they won't get fired unless it's multiple complaints.

 

[Wheezer]

Originally posted by: hanoverphist
because if the employees stole it from there, i didnt want to keep going there. if it was still there, id tip them and go back for repeat business. not too hard a concept there, sparky.

OR..save yourself $5+tip+price of car wash and DIY......OR just make sure there is nothing in your car of value BEFORE you go to the car wash?

I mean you are rewarding them from stealing from you by giving them $5 and if they don't, you tip them...NOT because they did a good job on your car but because they didn't thieve from you.

sounds perfectly logical.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: Wheezer

Originally posted by: hanoverphist
because if the employees stole it from there, i didnt want to keep going there. if it was still there, id tip them and go back for repeat business. not too hard a concept there, sparky.

OR..save yourself $5+tip+price of car wash and DIY......OR just make sure there is nothing in your car of value BEFORE you go to the car wash?

I mean you are rewarding them from stealing from you by giving them $5 and if they don't you tip them...NOT because they did a good job on your car but because they didn't thieve from you.

sounds perfectly logical.

at no time did i say it made sense, or that i needed your approval to finish my fucking day. DIY car washes are far from free, and my time is worth a bit more than a car wash at the moment. i DO put my valuables in my laptop bag and carry with me, which i already stated. nowhere in any literature ive seen does it make my little social experiments illegal, stupid or useless just because you dont agree with them. dont like it? dont fucking do it.

and i tip them for the car wash, not for stealing the money. if they take the money, ill not tip them. if they are dicks about it when i bring up the missing 5, ill get a free wash. its happened already, no matter how illogical it sounds to you. 5 bucks is a small price to pay for the knowledge that the place youre going to hires decent people.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Originally posted by: vi edit

Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Misleading title - they are/were not Toyota employees. They were employed by an independent dealership that sells and services Toyotas.

That said, I am glad they got busted and fired.

Their shirts still say Toyota on them and the bill you get from them has Toyota on the heading. They still answer to Toyota and are a threat to the brand's image.

If a McDonalds store you visited (that was franchised and not corporate owned) gave you a burger with a dead rat on a bun would you say that you got punked by a McDonald's employee or a person that sold McDonalds food products?

If a McDonalds employee did such a thing I would blame the employee and store management, not McDonalds. While it may be odd, I tend to put the blame on the correct party.

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
No, the bill will have the dealership's name on the heading and their shirts will also have the dealership's name on them.

In any case, the implication of the thread title is that this is a Toyota-specific instance when that is factually misleading. The issue is with a dealership (which may sell other cars as well as Toyotas). It's kind of like blaming a mall for the actions of one of the stores inside the mall.

While Toyota does have some control over the dealership and can exert corporate influence, it's disingenuous to say that the offending persons were "Toyota employees".

ZV

Thank you.

I worked for a Toyota dealership for a year, and not once during that year did I ever think I worked for Toyota.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: hanoverphist
when i have my car washed ill leave 5 bucks in the ashtray. if its missing when i get to my car, ill let the "boss" know that the missing 5 was their tip and never go back there. its happened at 2 different car washes now, not that big a deal tho. keeps me voting with my cash, since i dont go back to those places.

That's a pretty good idea.

 

[CZroe]

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: CZroe


But the problem with that is that you would not tip someone who stole from you. SWISH! If you don't tip for bad service, why tip a crook?

.

i never said i didnt tip for bad service. actually, ill hook them and make them finish the job before i leave if im not happy with the work. and then i tip.


also unless its an obvious thing youre looking for youll likely not notice it until after leaving. unless you go all OCD and check everything when you sit down. as it is, ill take all my toys out and place them in my laptop case (gun, extra mags, knife, watch, stuff like that) because im not stupid. as for tipping a crook, the other guys know he took it, and once they find out thats their tip they are all over making him put it in.

That was the collective "you." But anyway, you tip for bad service? FAIL. You (COLLECTIVE!) don't dangle a tip to make them do the job you paid for... that's what the price of the service is for.

 

[Sea Moose]

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: hanoverphist
when i have my car washed ill leave 5 bucks in the ashtray. if its missing when i get to my car, ill let the "boss" know that the missing 5 was their tip and never go back there. its happened at 2 different car washes now, not that big a deal tho. keeps me voting with my cash, since i dont go back to those places.

brilliant

How is this brilliant? Are car wash employees career service employees? So they don't jack your cash one week, but the next week they do. Just don't leave a $5 in the ashtray. Hell the boss will fire the crew and they will go work at the car wash down the street.

Yea....seems like you are out $5 and you now have to drive somewhere else to get your car washed.

the guys rarely get fired. ive never seen one even reprimanded more than lip service while the customer is watching. i used to know a bunch of guys that worked at one, and they never got fired or really punished for doing this. as for driving "farther" to get my car washed, there is more car washes in the area than there are convenience stores. that is saying a lot. i dont have to go very far to find a new one, and since i work, live and play in at least 5 different cities (mesa, chandler, tempe, phoenix and scottsdale) there are many chances to hit new places. id have been out 5 bucks regardless, thats what i tip for a 19 dollar car wash. if my truck is especially grimy ill tip even more. the place ive been going to for 3 years now has never taken the 5, and ill usually tip them 5 or 7 if they hustle.

Have you thought about washing your car yourself....?

 

[her209]

Isn't secretly recording (audio+video) illegal?

 

[Sea Moose]

Originally posted by: her209
Isn't secretly recording (audio+video) illegal?

This

 

[CZroe]

Originally posted by: Sea Moose

Originally posted by: her209
Isn't secretly recording (audio+video) illegal?

This

READ. He said that it was plainly visible and it was within his personal vehicle.