Guy tricks friend into blindfolded oral sex - IT'S A TRAP!

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Ruptga

Lifer
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I'm guessing these won't be the most hopeless odds a defense attorney has ever faced.

No, but it sounds like the other party isn't denying it, which means the guy got raped. This situation isn't what first comes to mind when we think of rape, but that's what he's saying happened.

Still, it looks like the main reason this was reported is that the accused is some local bureaucrat's relative. How exciting.

Oh and I entered this thread expecting a transsexual to be involved, I am disappointed.
 

sportage

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Reinactment for the jury?
Sure!
Will the victim take the stand.
Now mr attorney, please show the jury exactly what happened.
You betcha.
Zipppppp...
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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That is if we are going just on the basis of oral skills. Im sure in that regard, a man might be capable of giving a better BJ than a woman. Its the same argument lesbians use about who eats pussy better. Men have a penis and know what feels better to them so it is instinctual to know how to give a good BJ. For the record I'm straight and never had a man on man experience.

For me, it is not just about the oral skills that make a good BJ. Its the whole package. I like seeing a beautiful woman down there. I like to hold her hair. I like playing with her butt, pussy or tits while she is working on me. I like to have her talk dirty to me in a sultry feminine voice. I think a woman's face looks hot after I bust off on it. The act of giving a woman my load is erotic to me.

Even if a man could get me off in less than a minute with truly superb oral skills, I'd still prefer a BJ from a less talented woman.
None of that applies in a blind test scenario, and a vast majority of the time, based purely on skill/talent, a man gives a better BJ.
 
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If binding someone to a chair, blindfolding them and performing oral sex on them under the ruse that it's actually someone they'd find sexually attractive is wrong, I don't want to be right.
 

Newell Steamer

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The victim sounds like something one you guys would allow to get yourselves into and then bitch about how you were fooled and had no possible way of avoiding it.

These gift cards stole my money!!

My garage door broke after a let a chair get jammed into it!!

My whiskey was taken by the two strangers I live with!!
 

Imp

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Just remembered that this reminds me of a gay coworker who came out to me...

After coming out, he asked me, when we were alone in his work truck, if I was gay. While doing so, I noticed his hand getting closer to mine on the seat rest. Long story short, I no longer go out to lunch alone with this guy.
 

nageov3t

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I never understood guys who enjoy giving head so much that they'll go to great lengths to do it.

tbh, pretty much the only reason I'll give a blowjob is because it's an asshole move to not reciprocate.
 

Platypus

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I never understood guys who enjoy giving head so much that they'll go to great lengths to do it.

tbh, pretty much the only reason I'll give a blowjob is because it's an asshole move to not reciprocate.

I suspect the guy in the story gets enjoyment out of the rush/risk of doing this with a straight male as opposed to the sexual act itself really mattering as much.

I like it but I'm not going to go out of my way for it, shrug.
 

smackababy

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I suspect the guy in the story gets enjoyment out of the rush/risk of doing this with a straight male as opposed to the sexual act itself really mattering as much.

I like it but I'm not going to go out of my way for it, shrug.

Eh, there are people who genuinely enjoy giving oral sex. Same as people who enjoy sucking toes and such. The mental arousing stimulus can be more pleasuring than the physical ones. I mean, look at the victim; I'm sure he just got a wicked blowjob, but he doesn't sound too happy about it.
 

Platypus

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Eh, there are people who genuinely enjoy giving oral sex. Same as people who enjoy sucking toes and such. The mental arousing stimulus can be more pleasuring than the physical ones. I mean, look at the victim; I'm sure he just got a wicked blowjob, but he doesn't sound too happy about it.

That's of course certainly true, everyone likes something different and I don't doubt there are plenty of guys who love giving head (I know this for a fact ), but my statement more centered on the fact that this guy clearly went out of his way to target a straight-identifying male for this. It's incredibly simple to find another gay guy to go down on in about 5 minutes who would willingly want you to if you really wish to, this guy clearly has a different kink in my opinion.
 

nageov3t

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That's of course certainly true, everyone likes something different and I don't doubt there are plenty of guys who love giving head (I know this for a fact ), but my statement more centered on the fact that this guy clearly went out of his way to target a straight-identifying male for this. It's incredibly simple to find another gay guy to go down on in about 5 minutes who would willingly want you to if you really wish to, this guy clearly has a different kink in my opinion.

yeah... or maybe he had a crush on his straight buddy and convinced himself in his head that if only his friend experienced the wonders of getting oral sex from a guy, he'd instantly switch from straight to gay and confess his love for him.

(or the whole thing is BS and the straight friend just had second thoughts/gay panic)
 

smackababy

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That's of course certainly true, everyone likes something different and I don't doubt there are plenty of guys who love giving head (I know this for a fact ), but my statement more centered on the fact that this guy clearly went out of his way to target a straight-identifying male for this. It's incredibly simple to find another gay guy to go down on in about 5 minutes who would willingly want you to if you really wish to, this guy clearly has a different kink in my opinion.

Oh, I'm sure that was part of it as well. He either really wanted to have sex with this particular person, or enjoys the ol' bait and switch!

Regardless, this victim is an idiot.
 

mugs

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Lol, no. Is it evident to you? The only thing that is evident to me is that he says he didn't consent to getting head from a guy... after he allowed himself to be bound and blindfolded in expectation of receiving anonymous sexual favors in a room where the only other human was a guy.

I'm guessing these won't be the most hopeless odds a defense attorney has ever faced.

Now I'm really confused. You say that he did not consent to what happened, but somehow it is not evident to you that a non-consensual sex act took place.

The victim blaming in this thread is disgusting. It doesn't matter how stupidly the victim acted, it doesn't excuse a sexual assault.
 
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smackababy

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Now I'm really confused. You say that he did not consent to what happened, but somehow it is not evident to you that a non-consensual sex act took place.

The victim blaming in this thread is disgusting.

He consented to be blindfolded and have his cock played with by an unknown party. The fact he was under the impression it was a girl might have been his own doing, and not the assailants. If that is the case, or can be reasonably shown it was the case, no sexual assault happened. At what point do we consider deception to constitute rape? If I promise a girl the best orgasm ever and deliver 10 seconds of nothing, I misrepresented the nature of our sexual encounter to the fullest. Am I guilty of sexual assault because she didn't enjoy it?
 

mugs

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He consented to be blindfolded and have his cock played with by an unknown party. The fact he was under the impression it was a girl might have been his own doing, and not the assailants. If that is the case, or can be reasonably shown it was the case, no sexual assault happened.

The alleged victim's story is easily verifiable through Facebook chat logs. I assume the police looked at those before arresting the accused. But if they didn't, and the alleged victim made it all up, then sure there would be no sexual assault. The previous conversation in which the alleged victim declined the threesome because he "didn't want to do anything gay" is particularly damning. If everything in the article is true, there would have been absolutely no doubt in the mind of the accused that the alleged victim was unwilling to receive oral sex from him.

Some people in this thread are think that even if all of the facts are as stated in the article, it wouldn't have been sexual assault. That is what I'm questioning. How do people not recognize that the situation described in the article is sexual assault?

At what point do we consider deception to constitute rape? If I promise a girl the best orgasm ever and deliver 10 seconds of nothing, I misrepresented the nature of our sexual encounter to the fullest. Am I guilty of sexual assault because she didn't enjoy it?

Deception about who will be performing the sex act is certainly on the "rape" side of that line.
 

smackababy

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The alleged victim's story is easily verifiable through Facebook chat logs. I assume the police looked at those before arresting the accused. But if they didn't, and the alleged victim made it all up, then sure there would be no sexual assault. The previous conversation in which the alleged victim declined the threesome because he "didn't want to do anything gay" is particularly damning. If everything in the article is true, there would have been absolutely no doubt in the mind of the accused that the alleged victim was unwilling to receive oral sex from him.

Some people in this thread are think that even if all of the facts are as stated in the article, it wouldn't have been sexual assault. That is what I'm questioning. How do people not recognize that the situation described in the article is sexual assault?



Deception about who will be performing the sex act is certainly on the "rape" side of that line.

I am not entirely sure he was deceived as to who was going to be performing the sex act, as much as he just was kept in the dark about it. This entire situation is incredibly stupid. "Hey, I have a friend and she wants to have sex with you. Only, you have to be blind folded, tied up, and never get to see her." Who agrees to that? That in itself seems fishy. And if he was ambiguous as to who the someone was, especially with regards to gender, I just don't see this as a sexual assault. If it is a case of the guy saying 'yes, I will have sex with Jenny' and then Jeremy sucks his cock, then it sounds like rape to me. I am more inclined that the victim enjoyed the blindfolded blowjob more than he's ever enjoyed one before, and upon finding out it was guy that did it (better than any girl), he was upset.
 

nageov3t

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Deception about who will be performing the sex act is certainly on the "rape" side of that line.

yeah, for sure the victim is a dumbass and this isn't exactly a violent rape crime, but it's hard not to see it as rape... I'd be fine with the perpetrator here being tagged as a sex offender.
 
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