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[oniq]

Originally posted by: MAME

Originally posted by: oniq
Wow, how many ATOTers don't actually know what they are doing with computers?

I've never had a hard drive fail on me. That is why I'm asking for help

Just read the bits off the platters.

 

[MAME]

I can't afford $450

 

[bmacd]

Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox
I once heard from somebody who had ordered the exact same drive, and swapped the board from the new one onto the old, which worked. Sounds like you've got head damage though- so it probably won't. If you're desperate, you could try it.

that only works if you've broken a pin. I've done it before and it works.

-=bmacd=-

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: Tbirdkid
OK. Why in the h@#$ did you put it in the freezer? There is absolutely no reason for that. What is freezing gonna do except for freeze the liquid bearings inside it? Besides that.... even if he put it in a plastic bag.... there is generally going to be condensation just from the air inside of the bag before closing it and putting it in there. OMG

Go buy an exact same hard drive... pull the board off the back and put the new one in. Then recover your data then put the board back on the new one and use it. Then rma the old drive and get a new one. WAYYYY cheaper than 500 bills and not as stupid as freezing it.


Peace

Clicking indicates a broken read/write head, changing the board will not remedy this problem.

 

[TallBill]

pound the crap out of it with a hammer, swear a lot, throw things, and settle down with a few beers.

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: DaiShan

Originally posted by: Tbirdkid
OK. Why in the h@#$ did you put it in the freezer? There is absolutely no reason for that. What is freezing gonna do except for freeze the liquid bearings inside it? Besides that.... even if he put it in a plastic bag.... there is generally going to be condensation just from the air inside of the bag before closing it and putting it in there. OMG

Go buy an exact same hard drive... pull the board off the back and put the new one in. Then recover your data then put the board back on the new one and use it. Then rma the old drive and get a new one. WAYYYY cheaper than 500 bills and not as stupid as freezing it.


Peace

Clicking indicates a broken read/write head, changing the board will not remedy this problem.

*sigh*
well the computer can detect it at first but it just freezes afterwards. Damn you western digital!

 

[MrCodeDude]

Geez, if only there were a General Hardware forum.

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[stev0]

Originally posted by: TallBill
pound the crap out of it with a hammer, swear a lot, throw things, and settle down with a few beers.

worked good for me when i burned through a few deathstars in the past couple of years...

have had any trouble with my seagates though

 

[Ness]

Originally posted by: MAME

Originally posted by: Ness
I suggest first off, you leave keep the hard drive unhooked until you are ready to pull data from it. Write down the info from the drive such as heads, sectors, all that junk.

Second, get a new hard drive. Hook both the hard drives up and manually add the drive in your BIOS. (using the information you wrote down.)
the second your OS starts up, get the most important files off there first.

I've had a couple HDs develop a click that allowed me to get my most important files off of there, and backup most everything else I wanted until it completely crapped out.

Also, I've had some luck with a program called "bad copy pro".. it may take a VERY long time on an 80GB drive to use, but if you get what you need off of there, you might try running it and see if it will last long enough to run completely.

This is, of course, assuming it isn't too late for the drive

(back your stuff up!)

Ok, well if I start up the computer with it as a master or slave, it's detected half the time before it POST's but after that, the computer just stop booting in to xp. Where is the information about the heads, sectors and such? Do I get it from online?

Do you think it will even work though? It's being detected some times already as it is...

bad copy pro works only if the drive is detected, right?

The information should be written on the label of the drive, and if it was a retail drive, it may be on the box, too.

Make sure the system drive is not on the same IDE channel as the bad drive, this MAY help.

Bad copy pro was able to recover the data off of a floppy disk that kept giving me the "please insert disk into drive A:" deal. It might work if the drive is undetected, I dunno.

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: Ness

Originally posted by: MAME

Originally posted by: Ness
I suggest first off, you leave keep the hard drive unhooked until you are ready to pull data from it. Write down the info from the drive such as heads, sectors, all that junk.

Second, get a new hard drive. Hook both the hard drives up and manually add the drive in your BIOS. (using the information you wrote down.)
the second your OS starts up, get the most important files off there first.

I've had a couple HDs develop a click that allowed me to get my most important files off of there, and backup most everything else I wanted until it completely crapped out.

Also, I've had some luck with a program called "bad copy pro".. it may take a VERY long time on an 80GB drive to use, but if you get what you need off of there, you might try running it and see if it will last long enough to run completely.

This is, of course, assuming it isn't too late for the drive

(back your stuff up!)

Ok, well if I start up the computer with it as a master or slave, it's detected half the time before it POST's but after that, the computer just stop booting in to xp. Where is the information about the heads, sectors and such? Do I get it from online?

Do you think it will even work though? It's being detected some times already as it is...

bad copy pro works only if the drive is detected, right?

The information should be written on the label of the drive, and if it was a retail drive, it may be on the box, too.

Make sure the system drive is not on the same IDE channel as the bad drive, this MAY help.

Bad copy pro was able to recover the data off of a floppy disk that kept giving me the "please insert disk into drive A:" deal. It might work if the drive is undetected, I dunno.

when the drive is plugged in, the computer can't boot correctly...even when it's a slave.

I can use any programs for it


NOOOOOOOOOOO :|:|:|

 

[Ichinisan]

HD failures are almost always intermittent to start. Just keep trying it occasionally (slave) and it will likely start working long enough for you to copy the data off of it.

 

[LeadMagnet]

Originally posted by: Ichinisan
HD failures are almost always intermittent to start. Just keep trying it occasionally (slave) and it will likely start working long enough for you to copy the data off of it.

Yup - but if you hear a grinding sound then you are hosed.

 

[gururu]

hook a good drive and the bad drive up and boot using a 98 boot up disk. copy the contents of bad drive to new drive using DOS command for copying.

if the drive is recognized and you're getting clicks during boot-up, you have a bad sector with important windows info. I have a single bad folder on my drive that if I click on, it will 'click' for like 15 minutes. The drive works fine, just one part of it is messed up.

 

[lobadobadingdong]

My main drive is a 80 gig, my back up drive is 40

then you could have used compression and backed up the whole 80 GB's

tisk tisk tisk.

 

[DJFuji]

Most of the time critical data doesn't take up 80 gigs. Sure you'll lose movies, music, pr0n, etc., but at least you're not losing documents, financial files, or even digicam pics. MultiMedia can be replaced fairly easily.... but you don't want to lose the priceless stuff.

 

[Eli]

Uh, this thread is full of a lot of bullsh!t.

Your heads didn't crash. Your drive would make horrible grinding sounds whenever it was powered on..

Also, It doesen't matter what you have your harddrive in when you put it in the freezer. Condensation happens when an object is below the dew point, which is dependant on the realitive humidity and temperature of the room.

You have to worry about condensation after you take it out of the freezer. Usually, turning it on produces enough heat to evaporate any condensation before it becomes a problem, but I imagine if you took it out and let it sit for 5 or 10 minutes it could be a problem, although that would totally negate the point of putting it in the freezer in the first place.

Ziplock bags are not air tight.

If your drive detects, it's possibly just corrupted somehow.

You need to get a Windows 98 boot cdrom, boot to DOS, and see if you can access your drive. This is assuming it is formatted FAT32. If it is formatted NTFS..... you're SOL, as far as I know.

You may find some corrupted file names, or who knows what, but you will probably be able to get some data off.

 

Eli's on point about the freezing, that was just stupid.

We get alot of this at work (dead drives, not freezing stupidity).

We use "On Track" and "Get Data Back" at work with good results. If the drive has physical damage inside then YOUR ONLY COURSE OF ACTION IS TO SEND IT TO A PROFESSIONAL who has a clean room/lab and can access the platters with minimal damage.


Head damage, ha ha, next to "infringing on moshquerade's clean air" that's the second biggest laugh of my day!

 

[MAME]

Hmm, thanks guys but the computer doesn't boot even when the bad drive is the slave. One time it got to the XP boot screen but then it just goes black. I also don't have a floppy drive so I can't make a boot disk, whoops Actually, I have an external zip drive, maybe I can set the usb to be highest priority, yes? Also, it makes a loud clicking noise, that's not a head gone bad?


I emailed a company that specializes in recoverying data, here's what they said:

Thank you for inquiring about data recovery with DriveSavers.

DriveSavers has specialized in recovering lost data since 1985 and has a better than 90% success rate. Our engineers recover data in as little as 24 hours from all operating systems and rotating media including hard drives, NAS, SAN and RAID systems, cartridges, floppies, CD, DVD, Flash Memory and Digital Film. DriveSavers is authorized by all hard drive manufacturers to open sealed drive mechanisms without voiding the original warranty.

For further information about DriveSavers, please visit our web site at http://www.drivesavers.com.

Our pricing is based on the drive capacity, the operating system, and the complexity of the recovery. DriveSavers will never exceed the maximum amount quoted.

The estimate to recover data from the 80gb hard drive you described is:

* Standard 1-2 Business Day Service: $900-3900.

* Economy 5-7 Business Day Service: $500-2700.

There is a $200.00 attempt fee if the data is not recoverable.

* Priority Round-the-Clock/Weekend Service: $1800-6900, with a $400.00 attempt fee.

THAT'S A LOT OF FREAKING MONEY!!!!!!!!

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Eli

You need to get a Windows 98 boot cdrom, boot to DOS, and see if you can access your drive. This is assuming it is formatted FAT32. If it is formatted NTFS..... you're SOL, as far as I know.

Check out read ntfs for just such a purpose.

readntfs

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: MAME

Originally posted by: dolph
data recovery normally starts around $500, iirc. google for it, you'll find plenty of links

as important as that information is, I don't believe I can afford $500.

You just don't want someone else to see the kind of sick porn you're into.

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: MAME

Originally posted by: dolph
data recovery normally starts around $500, iirc. google for it, you'll find plenty of links

as important as that information is, I don't believe I can afford $500.

You just don't want someone else to see the kind of sick porn you're into.

well DUH


haha, no, actually no porn was lost in this incidence

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
Geez, if only there were a General Hardware forum.

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:beer:

 

[dym]

open the drive up and help the head move...
For some reason, my harddrive's head couldn't move over a certain point, I helped it move over that point and it worked. After you open the drive, it'll be trash in like a week, though.

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: dym
open the drive up and help the head move...
For some reason, my harddrive's head couldn't move over a certain point, I helped it move over that point and it worked. After you open the drive, it'll be trash in like a week, though.

uhhhhhhhh....does that void the warrenty? I want the data back but I also want my warrenty to remain in tact.