Guys.. seriously.. dont ever.. ever.. never.. ever.. get married..

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MailBoxHead

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Originally posted by: bobbybe01
I'll never get married again, I see no reason to. If two people are happy together, why the pressure to get married? If they truly love each other, they'll stay together and get along. Why does there need to be a binding social contract in place?
Well, that's it right there. If you're gonna think of it as a "social contract" then it really is meaningless too, in my opinion. You compare it to a job, so to speak. If you don't like your job, you can get out of the contract and quit. People that look at marriage as an expectation or some sort of contract will not make it very far....or at least, happily.
I agree. Anyone that said get a prenup really needs to look into why they believe that they should even exist. You're entering the marriage with the expectation of failure since you feel it necessary to have a financial contract to protect yourself when it does fail. A marriage with that foundation should never occur.

 

mrCide

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Originally posted by: DT4K
Originally posted by: jemcam
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: jemcam
I'll second the plea not to get married. They all turn evil. I'm working on number three now. Guys, marriage sucks. But don't take my word for it, come talk to me after you've been married for 10 years or so, then you'll see. Talk to me when your best friend gets divorced, yes it will happen.

Marriage sucks but divorce is worse.

After 3 marriages, don't you think that maybe, just maybe, you are part of the problem?


The first one cheated on me, the second was a money hungry, status seeking, suffocating bitch, and the third I'm still in.

You picked them dumbfvck, so yeah, it's your fault.

I've been married for 10 years now, so I guess I'm "allowed" to talk to you.:roll:
We're doing just fine. Getting married was the best decision I ever made.


people change genius
 
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Originally posted by: AntiEverything
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: AntiEverything
Originally posted by: Fausto

Yeah, it's all the woman's fault. :roll:

Way to put words in my mouth, tard.

Judging by your misogynistic tendencies, I'd wager you'd be better served with something in your mouth.

- M4H

From one post you've determined I'm a misogynist? Give Miss Cleo a call, she could probably use another psychic. :roll:

Well, you're AntiEverything. Or are women "Nothing" to you?

- M4H
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: MailBoxHead
Originally posted by: bobbybe01
I'll never get married again, I see no reason to. If two people are happy together, why the pressure to get married? If they truly love each other, they'll stay together and get along. Why does there need to be a binding social contract in place?
Well, that's it right there. If you're gonna think of it as a "social contract" then it really is meaningless too, in my opinion. You compare it to a job, so to speak. If you don't like your job, you can get out of the contract and quit. People that look at marriage as an expectation or some sort of contract will not make it very far....or at least, happily.
I agree. Anyone that said get a prenup really needs to look into why they believe that they should even exist. You're entering the marriage with the expectation of failure since you feel it necessary to have a financial contract to protect yourself when it does fail. A marriage with that foundation should never occur.

So say most until they experience the wrath of financial impingement after a divorce.
 

Armitage

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Originally posted by: SoylentGreen
There is nothing wrong with living with someone you love.

If you think that protects you, you're fooled also. Ever hear of common-law marriage? Live with someone long enough, and she can still claim half your stuff + alimony if you split.

And of course, guys aren't perfect in a relationship either ... but they sure seem to get the sh|tty end of the stick most of the time when it ends, regardless of who's fault it was.
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: MrChad
If that's your outlook on life, why don't you just kill yourself and get it over with?

because hes absofreakingloutly correct..
been there done that got a T shirt.. and horrible credit thanks to a divorce of a woman that was very much in love with me and vice versa... but marriage ruined it...
marriage is an old fashioned idea these days if you ask me..
divorce rate is skyrocketing.. peeps get married and divoced so often it means even less than going steady did in High school...

 

Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: z0mb13
wow I can see the love in this thread!

Which is why I admonished the OP for dragging it over here. The one in the other forum he's referring to is already like 18 pages of idiocy.
And the OP is an established idiot, so it fits well.
 

SoylentGreen

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Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: z0mb13
wow I can see the love in this thread!

Which is why I admonished the OP for dragging it over here. The one in the other forum he's referring to is already like 18 pages of idiocy.
And the OP is an established idiot, so it fits well.

Hooray for Sampson and levying the insults to start crap. Why do you feel the need? I know it's because you have a lack of balls in real life and vent your frustrations here.
 

Originally posted by: SoylentGreen
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: z0mb13
wow I can see the love in this thread!

Which is why I admonished the OP for dragging it over here. The one in the other forum he's referring to is already like 18 pages of idiocy.
And the OP is an established idiot, so it fits well.

Hooray for Sampson and levying the insults to start crap. Why do you feel the need? I know it's because you have a lack of balls in real life and vent your frustrations here.
Ah the classic "you don't have a life outside the internet" insult. I'm truly hurt.
I'm going to cry all the way to my gf's house.

Within the first 10 posts you were calling someone names, so stfu you tool.
 

MrChad

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: MrChad
If that's your outlook on life, why don't you just kill yourself and get it over with?

because hes absofreakingloutly correct..
been there done that got a T shirt.. and horrible credit thanks to a divorce of a woman that was very much in love with me and vice versa... but marriage ruined it...
marriage is an old fashioned idea these days if you ask me..
divorce rate is skyrocketing.. peeps get married and divoced so often it means even less than going steady did in High school...

Originally posted by: MrChad
Agreed. There are risks involved with every major decision you make in your life, and you should educate yourself about those risks prior to making those decisions. Focusing on the risks alone is unhealthy, however, and can lead to poor decisions IMO. The problem with these types of rants against marriage is that the ranter usually fails to weigh the benefits of marriage along with the risks. I presume that this is because he/she:

a. has had a previous bad experience with marriage, or
b. has never been close enough to someone whom he/she would consider spending his/her life with.
 

GasX

Lifer
Feb 8, 2001
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Damn, that child support is a bitch. Why the hell should have to pay for them - she's the one who wanted them...
 

Jack Ryan

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: MailBoxHead
Originally posted by: bobbybe01
I'll never get married again, I see no reason to. If two people are happy together, why the pressure to get married? If they truly love each other, they'll stay together and get along. Why does there need to be a binding social contract in place?
Well, that's it right there. If you're gonna think of it as a "social contract" then it really is meaningless too, in my opinion. You compare it to a job, so to speak. If you don't like your job, you can get out of the contract and quit. People that look at marriage as an expectation or some sort of contract will not make it very far....or at least, happily.
I agree. Anyone that said get a prenup really needs to look into why they believe that they should even exist. You're entering the marriage with the expectation of failure since you feel it necessary to have a financial contract to protect yourself when it does fail. A marriage with that foundation should never occur.

So say most until they experience the wrath of financial impingement after a divorce.


The smart people wont need to go through that, they either get married to a perfect mate, or they wait. They don't need to rush into marriage to fix their inferiority problem. Luckily, I am SMRT.
 

Armitage

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Originally posted by: MailBoxHead
Originally posted by: bobbybe01
I'll never get married again, I see no reason to. If two people are happy together, why the pressure to get married? If they truly love each other, they'll stay together and get along. Why does there need to be a binding social contract in place?
Well, that's it right there. If you're gonna think of it as a "social contract" then it really is meaningless too, in my opinion. You compare it to a job, so to speak. If you don't like your job, you can get out of the contract and quit. People that look at marriage as an expectation or some sort of contract will not make it very far....or at least, happily.
I agree. Anyone that said get a prenup really needs to look into why they believe that they should even exist. You're entering the marriage with the expectation of failure since you feel it necessary to have a financial contract to protect yourself when it does fail. A marriage with that foundation should never occur.

Until the law changes to a more eqitable process in the event of divorce, it's the only way to cover your a$$.

People are flakes, and you're never as secure as you think in a marriage. Your just coasting along, 7, 10 15 years into your marriage, thinking everything is peaches, then WHAM your wife tells you she wants a diviorce over dinner one day. Nothing in particular is wrong ... she just wants out, and nothing you can do about it.

Call me a cynic, but it happened to me, and at least 3 other couples I know. In one case it was the guy that flaked out.

 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: MailBoxHead
Originally posted by: bobbybe01
I'll never get married again, I see no reason to. If two people are happy together, why the pressure to get married? If they truly love each other, they'll stay together and get along. Why does there need to be a binding social contract in place?
Well, that's it right there. If you're gonna think of it as a "social contract" then it really is meaningless too, in my opinion. You compare it to a job, so to speak. If you don't like your job, you can get out of the contract and quit. People that look at marriage as an expectation or some sort of contract will not make it very far....or at least, happily.
I agree. Anyone that said get a prenup really needs to look into why they believe that they should even exist. You're entering the marriage with the expectation of failure since you feel it necessary to have a financial contract to protect yourself when it does fail. A marriage with that foundation should never occur.
No, we've just seen, read & heard about many mens' lives being ruined due to having to give up a huge chunk of their income to pay a woman not to work and/or to pay for the upbringing of a child which may not be theirs, and which they usually can't see very often anyway.

BTW OP, Sammy's got some serious issues, I wouldn't bother.
 

Brutuskend

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Another thing I've seen happen.

You have 3 women who are close friends, one day one asks for a divorce and with in the year ALL three are single again. The domino effect in action.
 

Pliablemoose

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I had an "agreement of non-marriage" drawn up when the ex wanted to move back in, it was one of the smartest things I've ever done...

Had a buddy that remarried his ex & she took him for 1/2 of everything X2 when she divorced him the 2nd time.

That reminds me, my child support is overdue, she said she'd catch up this week:|

Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Another thing I've seen happen.

You have 3 women who are close friends, one day one asks for a divorce and with in the year ALL three are single again. The domino effect in action.

I've seen that happen too, never marry a lemming...
 

Schrodinger

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Think a large part of the problem is what others have stated: marriage is some sort of social requirement. You grow up, go to school, get a job, get married and have kids. Or at least thats the expectation.

Many friends of mine (young 20s) are getting married. They get along with their SO but judging from the outside they are not enamoured in love like you'd think married couples should be.

If you don't get married and have kids you are seen as "odd". If, for some reason you take a little longer and are the last child in your family to get married there is a sense of relief eg "he/she FINALLY got married". The whole thing is crap to me.

I think you should only marry and settle with someone if you truly love them. If it doesn't click then move on. Don't try to mold them to you and how you want. Too many people are actively "seeking" spouse material. Friends are desparately using online dating service. I know one guy who has met up with at least a few dozen women on them and has a CHECKLIST of what he wants. You can't be like that, don't set up expectations because you may find that you will be greatly disappointed.

Let it happen if it happens but don't settle for less. Don't settle just to have someone around because your an attention whore or need comfort, security, the monetary benefits and someone to have kids with. Those are all the wrong reasons. If you don't find someone in your life that makes you giddy every time you see them, who doesn't make you slightly nervous when around (not from fear), who doesn't make you smile... then just CONTINUE BEING SINGLE.

I'll die single and lonely before I'll die after spending 50 years with someone who "I could get along with and we'd make good children".

/rant
 

Armitage

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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Another thing I've seen happen.

You have 3 women who are close friends, one day one asks for a divorce and with in the year ALL three are single again. The domino effect in action.

Yep ... seen that happen as well. Sort of a group-thing/support group thing going on I guess.
 
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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Another thing I've seen happen.

You have 3 women who are close friends, one day one asks for a divorce and with in the year ALL three are single again. The domino effect in action.

Works with proposals too if they've got whipping power over the men.

Funny how they seem to be interconnected.

- M4H
 

jjones

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I've been married going on ten years and while the marriage does have its moments when I miss being a bachelor, those are few and far between, and I'd much rather be married 99.9% of the time. Oh, and if you intend to have children, just living together without being married does not relieve you of your responsibilities when you break up, so what's the difference? In some states, common law marriage applies and you don't even need to have children to be obligated financially to your ex, so be careful if you think that you've got it made just by living together.

To be completely safe, you need to live by yourself the rest of your life and be sure you never have children. No thanks.
 

SoylentGreen

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Originally posted by: Schrodinger
Think a large part of the problem is what others have stated: marriage is some sort of social requirement. You grow up, go to school, get a job, get married and have kids. Or at least thats the expectation.

Many friends of mine (young 20s) are getting married. They get along with their SO but judging from the outside they are not enamoured in love like you'd think married couples should be.

If you don't get married and have kids you are seen as "odd". If, for some reason you take a little longer and are the last child in your family to get married there is a sense of relief eg "he/she FINALLY got married". The whole thing is crap to me.

I think you should only marry and settle with someone if you truly love them. If it doesn't click then move on. Don't try to mold them to you and how you want. Too many people are actively "seeking" spouse material. Friends are desparately using online dating service. I know one guy who has met up with at least a few dozen women on them and has a CHECKLIST of what he wants. You can't be like that, don't set up expectations because you may find that you will be greatly disappointed.

Let it happen if it happens but don't settle for less. Don't settle just to have someone around because your an attention whore or need comfort, security, the monetary benefits and someone to have kids with. Those are all the wrong reasons. If you don't find someone in your life that makes you giddy every time you see them, who doesn't make you slightly nervous when around (not from fear), who doesn't make you smile... then just CONTINUE BEING SINGLE.

I'll die single and lonely before I'll die after spending 50 years with someone who "I could get along with and we'd make good children".

/rant

Since I've been admonished for bringing this subject here I'll point out that your well thought out post is one reason why. To bring forth some intelligent discussion and opinions.

Posts like this make it very easy to see who the kids are on the forum and who the adults are. A kid doesn't necessarily mean strictly age based either. There are teens with better heads on their shoulders than many adults.
 
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