GWB to be interviewed on 60 Minutes tonight

[Thump553]

The "Never Admit a Blunder" Decider will be interviewed on 60 Minutes tonight. Should be interesting.

 

[Rainsford]

I can already tell you what the interview will consist of. It will be a lot of GWB offering broad platitudes about the war in Iraq that don't really mean anything and sure as hell don't constitute a strategy of any kind, certainly not a new one. Basically, he'll talk to us like we're stupid...and you know why? Because we are. He's going to offer the same bullshit he's been trying to feed us since we invaded, and his supporters, which still constitute an unbelievable number of Americans, are going to admire his "steadfastness" and miss the fact that he doesn't have anything remotely resembling a plan.

 

[Lemon law]

I don't doubt Rainsford has it pegged about right---But will the Bush appearance under the ticking watch change anything? His previous Presidential address to the nation in which the decider decided what the plan was, ended up being watched by only a third of the nation. And post speech poll numbers fail to show any change in Presidential support now standing at about the one person in three.

So I conclude that people who support the President support him now---the rest of us have already filed his plan as a more of the same failure. And the more Bush talks, the more skeptical the American people become.

I also am pretty sure that the Pres will get a chance to try his surge as a political reality.

But reading beyond this---------the time for talk and flowery promises will now officially end pretty well tonight.

GWB&co. better deliver results by June or July------or the decider will be decidedly politically dead.

After this---promises will not be legal tender---only results matter.

 

[ProfJohn]

Well look at this, the ?decider? does admit that mistakes were made.
What are you guys going to do now? The Bush never admits he is wrong argument is now out the window, will have to return to the old ?Bush lied soldiers died? line now huh?

From Drudge

The president concedes that his decisions have led to more instability in Iraq. President Bush made the admission in an exclusive interview with Scott Pelley at Camp David yesterday (12), his first interview since addressing the nation about Iraq. It will be broadcast on 60 MINUTES Sunday, Jan. 14 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

The president says the current sectarian violence in Iraq, is a destabilizing factor that "could lead to attacks here in America" and must be controlled. He defended his decision to invade Iraq in the same way, saying Saddam was competing with Iran to get a nuclear weapon and making the region unstable. But when pressed by Pelley, Bush concedes that conditions in Iraq are much worse now.

Pelley: But wasn't it your administration that created the instability in Iraq? Bush: "Our administration took care of a source of instability in Iraq. Envision a world in which Saddam Hussein was rushing for a nuclear weapon to compete against Iran... He was a significant source of instability. Pelley: It's much more unstable now, Mr. President. Bush: Well, no question, decisions have made things unstable.

"I think history is going to look back and see a lot of ways we could have done things better. No question about it," says Bush.

Toppling Saddam was not a mistake, however. "My decision to remove Saddam Hussein was the correct decision in my judgment. We didn't find the weapons we thought we would find or the weapons everybody thought he had. But he was a significant source of instability," Bush tells Pelley. "We liberated that country from a tyrant. I think the Iraqi people owe the American people a huge debt of gratitude and I believe most Iraqi's express that."

The execution of Saddam was mishandled, says the president, who saw only parts of it on the Internet because he didn't want to watch the dictator fall through the trap door. "I thought it was discouraging... It's important that that chapter of Iraqi history be closed. [But] They could have handled it a lot better."

 

[Tab]

I hope this will end up someplace on the web at least...

 

[Aimster]

the title of the thread is invading iraq was a good move, not if mistakes were made inside iraq.

"Toppling Saddam was not a mistake, however."

nice try Bush PR manager

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Well look at this, the ?decider? does admit that mistakes were made.
What are you guys going to do now? The Bush never admits he is wrong argument is now out the window, will have to return to the old ?Bush lied soldiers died? line now huh?
...

I don't think my complaints about the President's performance are conditional on him ALWAYS doing bad things. I applaud the fact that he seems to be stepping up to the plate and admitting that he made mistakes (although he is kind of hedging with "mistakes were made" talk). But it's sort of a case of too little, too late. He's been President for 6 years, and we've been in Iraq for 4 of those years...and NOW he's getting around to admitting that he should have done things differently? No offense, but if that impresses you, I'd feel compelled to remind you that he is not the mayor of Bugdick, Arkansas, he's the President of the United States. This attitude would have been fine, say, 4 years ago. Right now it feels pretty stupid, especially because the only reason he's adopting this new, humbler attitude is that his refusal to face reality is largely responsible for his party getting spanked in the last election. He's being FORCED to do this, and I don't find that too impressive.

 

[conjur]

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Bush_tells_60_Minutes_no_

In an interview set to air on this Sunday's 60 Minutes, President George W. Bush vows to send an additional 21,500 troops to Iraq "no matter what" the Democratic-controlled Congress tries to do.

"Do you believe as Commander in Chief you have the authority to put the troops in there no matter what the Congress wants to do," 60 Minutes correspondent Scott Pelley asks Bush in the short clip uploaded to the CBS News web site Friday night.

"I think I've got, in this situation, I do, yeah," Bush said.

"Now I fully understand they will," Bush continued, "they could try to stop me from doing it, but, uh, I've made my decision and we're going forward."

Bat. Sh*t. Insane.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: conjur
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Bush_tells_60_Minutes_no_

In an interview set to air on this Sunday's 60 Minutes, President George W. Bush vows to send an additional 21,500 troops to Iraq "no matter what" the Democratic-controlled Congress tries to do.

"Do you believe as Commander in Chief you have the authority to put the troops in there no matter what the Congress wants to do," 60 Minutes correspondent Scott Pelley asks Bush in the short clip uploaded to the CBS News web site Friday night.

"I think I've got, in this situation, I do, yeah," Bush said.

"Now I fully understand they will," Bush continued, "they could try to stop me from doing it, but, uh, I've made my decision and we're going forward."

Bat. Sh*t. Insane.

If you step away from your partisan hatred of Bush for a second you might realize that EVERY President feels he can do what he wants with the military.

Clinton said the same thing I?ll post the quote in this thread as well:
"I thought I ought to say clearly today that I would strenuously oppose such attempts to encroach on the president's foreign policy powers," Clinton said in an interview with radio reporters. "The president must make the ultimate decision" about committing U.S. troops, he said.

 

[JEDIYoda]

people we need to support our Commander In Chief after all you voted for him!!!

Opps I fogot most of you are too young to vote...heheee...hahahaa...rofl

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: conjur
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Bush_tells_60_Minutes_no_

In an interview set to air on this Sunday's 60 Minutes, President George W. Bush vows to send an additional 21,500 troops to Iraq "no matter what" the Democratic-controlled Congress tries to do.

"Do you believe as Commander in Chief you have the authority to put the troops in there no matter what the Congress wants to do," 60 Minutes correspondent Scott Pelley asks Bush in the short clip uploaded to the CBS News web site Friday night.

"I think I've got, in this situation, I do, yeah," Bush said.

"Now I fully understand they will," Bush continued, "they could try to stop me from doing it, but, uh, I've made my decision and we're going forward."

Bat. Sh*t. Insane.

If you step away from your partisan hatred of Bush for a second you might realize that EVERY President feels he can do what he wants with the military.

Clinton said the same thing I?ll post the quote in this thread as well:
"I thought I ought to say clearly today that I would strenuously oppose such attempts to encroach on the president's foreign policy powers," Clinton said in an interview with radio reporters. "The president must make the ultimate decision" about committing U.S. troops, he said.

Who's complaining that President Bush wants to lead the military? The complaints are that he's doing so very poorly, and then defending his bad decisions with "well I'm the President".

 

[tomywishbone]

I'm going to borrow Elvis' gun and shoot my TV.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: conjur
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Bush_tells_60_Minutes_no_

In an interview set to air on this Sunday's 60 Minutes, President George W. Bush vows to send an additional 21,500 troops to Iraq "no matter what" the Democratic-controlled Congress tries to do.

"Do you believe as Commander in Chief you have the authority to put the troops in there no matter what the Congress wants to do," 60 Minutes correspondent Scott Pelley asks Bush in the short clip uploaded to the CBS News web site Friday night.

"I think I've got, in this situation, I do, yeah," Bush said.

"Now I fully understand they will," Bush continued, "they could try to stop me from doing it, but, uh, I've made my decision and we're going forward."

Bat. Sh*t. Insane.

If you step away from your partisan hatred of Bush for a second you might realize that EVERY President feels he can do what he wants with the military.

Clinton said the same thing I?ll post the quote in this thread as well:
"I thought I ought to say clearly today that I would strenuously oppose such attempts to encroach on the president's foreign policy powers," Clinton said in an interview with radio reporters. "The president must make the ultimate decision" about committing U.S. troops, he said.

If you step away from your sick desire to give the President a blowjob every time he asks, you'd find that EVERY military decision this administration has made has resulted in ABJECT FAILURE which included the loss of tens of thousands of lives and hundreds of billions of deficit-increasing taxpayer dollars.

The Frat-Boy has made it clear he will NOT consult with Congress AT ALL but, rather, will INFORM them of what he plans to do (despite receiving advice from every possible angle, except the neocon one, that he is dead wrong)

Interesting how you would use a quote of Clinton amongst legislation planned by the GOP that is nearly the same as that planned by some Dems right now. You will stoop to no low to defend your sick desire for more bloodshed.

BTW, Clinton's quote involved a situation where we were NOT already in a war, much less an unwinnable one:
http://www-tech.mit.edu/V113/N50/somalia.50w.html

 

[trenchfoot]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Well look at this, the ?decider? does admit that mistakes were made.
What are you guys going to do now? The Bush never admits he is wrong argument is now out the window, will have to return to the old ?Bush lied soldiers died? line now huh?

From Drudge

The president concedes that his decisions have led to more instability in Iraq. President Bush made the admission in an exclusive interview with Scott Pelley at Camp David yesterday (12), his first interview since addressing the nation about Iraq. It will be broadcast on 60 MINUTES Sunday, Jan. 14 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

The president says the current sectarian violence in Iraq, is a destabilizing factor that "could lead to attacks here in America" and must be controlled. He defended his decision to invade Iraq in the same way, saying Saddam was competing with Iran to get a nuclear weapon and making the region unstable. But when pressed by Pelley, Bush concedes that conditions in Iraq are much worse now.

Pelley: But wasn't it your administration that created the instability in Iraq? Bush: "Our administration took care of a source of instability in Iraq. Envision a world in which Saddam Hussein was rushing for a nuclear weapon to compete against Iran... He was a significant source of instability. Pelley: It's much more unstable now, Mr. President. Bush: Well, no question, decisions have made things unstable.

"I think history is going to look back and see a lot of ways we could have done things better. No question about it," says Bush.

Toppling Saddam was not a mistake, however. "My decision to remove Saddam Hussein was the correct decision in my judgment. We didn't find the weapons we thought we would find or the weapons everybody thought he had. But he was a significant source of instability," Bush tells Pelley. "We liberated that country from a tyrant. I think the Iraqi people owe the American people a huge debt of gratitude and I believe most Iraqi's express that."

The execution of Saddam was mishandled, says the president, who saw only parts of it on the Internet because he didn't want to watch the dictator fall through the trap door. "I thought it was discouraging... It's important that that chapter of Iraqi history be closed. [But] They could have handled it a lot better."

might be just a itty-bitty technicality, but every time bush has admitted mistakes were made and that he was ultimately responsible, he never once admitted that those mistakes were made by him personally, only that he'd take responsibility for them.

look at the quote you bolded: he said "Well, no question, decisions have made things unstable." whose decisions is he talking about? he purposely left himself out of that statement. all of his statements claiming "he was somehow or ultimately responsible" are quite similar to that. AFAIK, in his term of office, he has never named himself as the actual perpetrator of a deed he is "holding himself responsible for".

in this way, he can always claim that others made those decisions in his behalf based soley on opinions other than his own, and that whenever he had to make an important decision himself, it was always *as advised*

 

[compuwiz1]

Pathological liars eventually start to believe what spews out of their own mouths.

 

[Lemon law]

The only thing GWB will believe is his own impeachment and conviction---all else is fantasy where GWB&CO wins again.

 

[Lemon law]

Well---its 7:14 and 60 minutes is delayed due to a football game---guess it goes to show you what America thinks is most important.

But I sure don't want to be in that majority that did not watch it.---even if I and others are prepared to conclude what will be there before it happens.

wait --big news flash--Chargers are on the 40 yard line.

 

[catnap1972]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
The only thing GWB will believe is his own impeachment and conviction---all else is fantasy where GWB&CO wins again.

You think even that is going to get through to him? I wouldn't be surprised if he thinks the Democrats impeaching him will turn America's support back TOWARDS him (which is why he keeps pushing further and further in the hopes they'll actually go and do it)

 

[homercles337]

"I think im am an open-minded, flexible person." --President DumbDumb actually said this! This man doesnt even know himself, how is he supposed to understand the american consciousness.

edit: its all lies from soft ball questions thus far. Wasnt this the horribly leftist network that found the recruiter that was manipulated into letting dumb dumb into the reserves? Why go soft now? Performance anxiety? He doesnt get satisfaction from revenge? Ha!

edit 2: Hes talking about his "plan." How others criticize it before giving it a chance. It was given a chance BEFORE already and failed. WTF?

 

[LumbergTech]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: conjur
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Bush_tells_60_Minutes_no_

In an interview set to air on this Sunday's 60 Minutes, President George W. Bush vows to send an additional 21,500 troops to Iraq "no matter what" the Democratic-controlled Congress tries to do.

"Do you believe as Commander in Chief you have the authority to put the troops in there no matter what the Congress wants to do," 60 Minutes correspondent Scott Pelley asks Bush in the short clip uploaded to the CBS News web site Friday night.

"I think I've got, in this situation, I do, yeah," Bush said.

"Now I fully understand they will," Bush continued, "they could try to stop me from doing it, but, uh, I've made my decision and we're going forward."

Bat. Sh*t. Insane.

If you step away from your partisan hatred of Bush for a second you might realize that EVERY President feels he can do what he wants with the military.

Clinton said the same thing I?ll post the quote in this thread as well:
"I thought I ought to say clearly today that I would strenuously oppose such attempts to encroach on the president's foreign policy powers," Clinton said in an interview with radio reporters. "The president must make the ultimate decision" about committing U.S. troops, he said.

can you argue without mentioning Clinton?

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: LumbergTech

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: conjur
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Bush_tells_60_Minutes_no_

In an interview set to air on this Sunday's 60 Minutes, President George W. Bush vows to send an additional 21,500 troops to Iraq "no matter what" the Democratic-controlled Congress tries to do.

"Do you believe as Commander in Chief you have the authority to put the troops in there no matter what the Congress wants to do," 60 Minutes correspondent Scott Pelley asks Bush in the short clip uploaded to the CBS News web site Friday night.

"I think I've got, in this situation, I do, yeah," Bush said.

"Now I fully understand they will," Bush continued, "they could try to stop me from doing it, but, uh, I've made my decision and we're going forward."

Bat. Sh*t. Insane.

If you step away from your partisan hatred of Bush for a second you might realize that EVERY President feels he can do what he wants with the military.

Clinton said the same thing I?ll post the quote in this thread as well:
"I thought I ought to say clearly today that I would strenuously oppose such attempts to encroach on the president's foreign policy powers," Clinton said in an interview with radio reporters. "The president must make the ultimate decision" about committing U.S. troops, he said.

can you argue without mentioning Clinton?

Can you look outside your tunnel vision and actually try to understand the argument?

Or try to argue without mentioning Bush?

 

[tomywishbone]

The smirking freak makes me sick.

 

[mc00]

In an interview set to air on this Sunday's 60 Minutes, President George W. Bush vows to send an additional 21,500 troops to Iraq "no matter what" the Democratic-controlled Congress tries to do.

Do you believe as Commander in Chief you have the authority to put the troops in there no matter what the Congress wants to do," 60 Minutes correspondent Scott Pelley asks Bush in the short clip uploaded to the CBS News web site Friday night.

"I think I've got, in this situation, I do, yeah," Bush said.

"Now I fully understand they will," Bush continued, "they could try to stop me from doing it, but, uh, I've made my decision and we're going forward.

heh - am I wrong we the people could over thrown the president any time correct? so wtf he talking about? or am i wrong?

 

[RichardE]

Reading the transcript he seems to be alot more intelligent without a ear piece and people telling him what to say.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: LumbergTech

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
If you step away from your partisan hatred of Bush for a second you might realize that EVERY President feels he can do what he wants with the military.

Clinton said the same thing I?ll post the quote in this thread as well:
"I thought I ought to say clearly today that I would strenuously oppose such attempts to encroach on the president's foreign policy powers," Clinton said in an interview with radio reporters. "The president must make the ultimate decision" about committing U.S. troops, he said.

can you argue without mentioning Clinton?

I could, however I was reading about Haiti and Clinton's use of force there and in Kosovo and found this quote and thought it was very fitting since the thread in question was about whether Bush could attack Iran without asking for congress.

I am sure that if I looked I could find similar quotes from every President who has used military force without congressional approval. However, the Clinton one was the one that was right in front of me.