So you're a novice passing judgment on others?
Rippetoe's haughtiness tends to be bestowed upon his readers....
In any facet of life, weeks or months of research can lead people to believe they are experts on the subject. I know I felt that way after reading countless hours on televisions for several months before buying mine, and I can see how someone could think that after reading such an in-depth resource as SS and doing the exercises for a few months. Compared to what they knew before starting, they are an expert.
However, with something physical like exercising, it takes both research and experience to become an expert. Those who have a lot of both often realize that since there's so much out there and the sport is always changing, they might never term themselves an "expert" on the subject.
Especially the idiots that have only been doing it for a few months.Yea, that's the thing. With lifting, nutrition, fitness, etc...there really is no one golden standard. Starting Strength is a great resource - but its far from the only resource. The training method it describes is good for beginners, but that doesn't mean beginners have to do it to be successful. I never did. I did a pretty traditional bodybuilding split for the first 5-6 years I lifted, and even now with my powerlifting training, I still segregate my workouts based on a movement. I've been plenty successful without it.
Which is not to disparage SS. I've said plenty of times before, its a great resource, its just that there are plenty of other good ones out there, and when people (especially those versed only in SS) mock/criticize others for a different style of training, it is often very misplaced.
I can't comprehend going to the gym and doing arm exercises the whole time...strange
I've been doing a bodybuilding-type split, which has included an "arm day" in one form or another, for the past 10.5 years. Never had any problems with it, and I'm quite happy with my results--both aesthetically and strength-wise--thus far.
Edit: And it really isn't that hard to fill up a gym trip with arm exercises. Three each for biceps and triceps followed by 4-6 sets for forearms, and voila. Another advantage is that it allows for significant super setting; my arm day is pretty much my cardio workout for the week.
Most people give the guy that has "arm day" 4 days a week a hard time. When I was doing a split routine I was basically doing arms every day but they were always combined with something like chest, back, and shoulders. I had one day devoted to arms. I used a split routine for a long time and while my body changed and looked good I just didn't feel as strong as I wanted. The guy's doing curls 6 days a week at my gym always make me laugh.
Now my goal is to get my squat up to about 2x my body weight and see if a program like Stronglifts is what I will move forward with.
Especially the idiots that have only been doing it for a few months.
You being at the gym 6 days a week is pretty funny too.
I hope you at least get paid there.
Sounds to me like your the obvious douche at the gym worrying about what some other guys does.
So you're a novice passing judgment on others?
Yea, that's the thing. With lifting, nutrition, fitness, etc...there really is no one golden standard. Starting Strength is a great resource - but its far from the only resource. The training method it describes is good for beginners, but that doesn't mean beginners have to do it to be successful. I never did. I did a pretty traditional bodybuilding split for the first 5-6 years I lifted, and even now with my powerlifting training, I still segregate my workouts based on a movement. I've been plenty successful without it.
Which is not to disparage SS. I've said plenty of times before, its a great resource, its just that there are plenty of other good ones out there, and when people (especially those versed only in SS) mock/criticize others for a different style of training, it is often very misplaced.
I can pass judgment on guys like alkemyst because I've only been working out a few months and already moving heavier weights then him.
I discourage body building style workouts for beginners because they're inferior to programs like SS. It simply just doesn't make sense to focus on hypertrophy at the start when you're weak. Not to mention the fact you can't find anyone else out there getting the results people get from SS doing body building style workouts as novices.
I can pass judgment on guys like alkemyst because I've only been working out a few months and already moving heavier weights then him.
I discourage body building style workouts for beginners because they're inferior to programs like SS. It simply just doesn't make sense to focus on hypertrophy at the start when you're weak. Not to mention the fact you can't find anyone else out there getting the results people get from SS doing body building style workouts as novices.
What the hell are you talking about? I was only back in the gym for under 4 months and coming back from 4 years+ off due to a major right arm injury...so I wasn't really pushing things. I am still not 100%, I am also almost 40...I'd say my gains were pretty damn good for now. At 20 something, I'd be probably back to curling 140 or so for reps and benching around 250-275 for reps. That's two decades ago though. I am not in a contest with anyone here, if I were I'd be taking more risks and putting way more dedication in the gym.
Where did you really smoke me on lifts anyway? I am betting it's crappy form more than anything.
You have no fucking clue on most of what you are talking about and your advice here is about as piss-poor as it gets. You do realize just because you lift doesn't require you posting crap here especially moronic information.
squatting below parallel when older and not so with flexibility is a real deal.
I have never been able to sit on my heels. I have some kind of joint defect.
That said, it hasn't stopped me from sports or play.
any what you post isn't moronic? who cares how much you bench and curl? you sound like the typical gym bro with talk like that.
i dont claim to be an expert or anything like that, but i have a pretty good understanding off SS and practical programming and think its one of the best routes for people to go who want to get big and strong. i see nothing wrong with having that agenda when lots of people seem to have a bodybuilding agenda on here.
You should really work on your hip flexibility. It will make your life and your squats better.