[H]Titanfall just 6v6

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pontifex

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I agree completely. On a side note however, if you are excited for a 6v6 game why not just play CS GO 5v5, thats probably the best shooter out on PC right now for competitive play.

with that logic, why play any newer games? we should all still be playing DOOM then.
 

DigDog

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Jun 3, 2011
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i'm in the beta and i'm loving it.

the parkour mode and cloak make it great for evasive playstyle, which is something you dont have in semi-realistic shooters.
Titans are something you want - but once you get it, you dont necessarily want to get inside it - they do quite well on their own.

6v6 is fine for TtF.

6v6 would be fine for ANY game where score is aggregate. This, from my own point of view, which you might disagree with.

(in other fps games)
I seriously struggle to find people who don't suck donkey bawls to be my teammates, and when we play 8v8 if i have *one* player of my level on my side, we can roll 2v8 and whopp ass.
I was playing some DM today 1v3 and won with 19/2 K/D

Really, i hate playing in too many people; my skill gets watered down. It really frustrationg going 39-9 (game ends at 90) and losing because the other 7 idiots in my team happily go 1-14.

I suspect that most of the people who complain about 6v6 are .. how shall we say .. casuals.
Sure, you are free to not like something; so, "i don't like 6v6" is reasonable, but not really an argument worth of these boards, like "i get bored" or " i want to pewpew" are not really valid arguments.

Saying "6v6 is BAD" is not the same. 6v6 is awesome. The AI in between are there to catch the derps who go gun crazy killing bots, while they get taken out by enemy pilots.
 

T9D

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Dec 1, 2001
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I went through the training course. Wasn't impressed at all but seems polished. Got the the lobby and saw how few players they allow. Logged off. You got to be kidding. This is SO LOW. I was totally thinking it was going to be some epic game with massive teams and open spaces. All you are going to have with this game is just a very small amount of the massive hardcore players and/or cheaters that play 14 hours a day and ruin it for everyone else. Will be no fun for most people. They really dropped the ball on this.
 

Dankk

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I went through the training course. Wasn't impressed at all but seems polished. Got the the lobby and saw how few players they allow. Logged off. You got to be kidding. This is SO LOW. I was totally thinking it was going to be some epic game with massive teams and open spaces. All you are going to have with this game is just a very small amount of the massive hardcore players and/or cheaters that play 14 hours a day and ruin it for everyone else. Will be no fun for most people. They really dropped the ball on this.

So... you went through the effort of getting a beta key, downloading the game, going through the tutorials, joining a lobby, and then quitting without actually playing a match? Are you expecting anyone to take you seriously?
 

ksheets

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I played about an hour of the beta (Training and some Conquest), and I have to admit- The game has potential. Other than the extreme lag which better not be there on launch, I would say the game play is just different enough from the typical FPS..

Just out of curiosity, what do you guys think the XB1 vs PC sales for this title will be like? Do you think the PC stands a chance of outselling the XB1?
 

DigDog

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I DID NOT PLAY THE GAME. You got to be kidding. This is SO LOW. I was totally thinking SOMETHING BUT THEN DECIDED I WILL HAVE AN OPINION WITHOUT PLAYING IT. All you are going to have with this game is PEOPLE BETTER THAN ME. Will be no fun for ME, EVEN THOUGH I DIDNT PLAY IT. They really dropped the ball on this.
So, you played the game?
// Other than the extreme lag which better not be there on launch,////
wow, sorry that happened to you; i'm on EU servers and have perfect ping (30ms), perfect hitreg and totally lag-free play.
maybe they just had some overload?
 

Veliko

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Feb 16, 2011
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You couldn't be more wrong. We hate consoles because they stifle gaming progress with their long lifespans. After all, they are a day late an a dollar short on power compared to PCs even before their next gen releases. Developers wanting to cash in on all platforms are confined by the weakness of the consoles on what content can go into a game.

So you hate all alternative entertainment mediums then.

Good grief.
 

EDUSAN

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well...i got the beta...i played the tutorials and 2 tdm matches last night

i got my ass kicked for going solo most of the time.
It was fun to play. Titans are cool, but if you get yours when everyone has one already you will last 10 seconds like happened to me
parkour is awesome
the smartgun is kinda too powerful for not needing to aim.

i think its worth it a try. Even though its 6v6 (that for some reason it seems to be a bad thing for most people), you see a lot of action and people running around.
the maps are not that small as everyone thinks they are, specially when you are on foot.
The AI is bad, BUT what happened to me is one of these things

1) when i realize they are AI they are already dead
2) they are too far away to notice if they were AI or pilots

ill be definetely going to keep playing it today
 
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Modeps

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Oct 24, 2000
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I've played a ton of the PC beta (hit the level cap) and I've got to say it really caught me off guard as to how rad it is. I think actually playing the game is important to the equation here because if you're just watching videos, you may not notice all the small details Respawn has added to the game and just assume that it's simply future Call of Duty because it certainly does include many of the elements that they helped pioneer.

Simple example: Control point match types have always been limited to "Either I'm playing offense (trying to capture), or I'm playing defense (protecting the capture)." Sure you can change mid match, but it's one or the other. With the inclusion of Titans, now you can play both at the same time. Capture a point, call in your Titan, set him to guard mode, then go assault another control point while he's keeping an eye out. At any time you can tell him to forget guarding and come find you, which he'll do and kill anyone along the way he can. I've tried to explain some of that within my latest video.

Movement is also refined quite a bit and scaling buildings from a first person perspective is fairly easy. Wall running increases speed of traversal, so you'll get places faster if you do all that jazz.

Any complaints about the 6v6 seem completely unfounded, basically from people who haven't played it. More people does not necessarily equal more fun. These maps are chaotic as hell and while the grunts don't add much danger, they're useful resources to get your Titan faster. Additionally, there's the potential for 12 player controlled units on each team at any time, so yeah, that's the potential of 24 player controlled things doing stuff on each board. If numbers are important, go with that one. Edit: There is at least one game mode that starts everyone off with a Titan (Last Titan Standing)

I'm loving what I've played so far with Titanfall and I'm eager to see what's coming in the full game with all the extra unlocks, equippables, burn cards, maps, and of course, story elements.
 
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Modeps

Lifer
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The Titans looked a bit OP against infantry out in the open, but the maps looked to help account for that (allowing them to get closer and hijack or pop off some rockets), which looked really Halo-esque.

Once you really get into the workings of the game, the Pilots are formitable against Titans. The anti-titan weapons that everyone has deal significant damage, you just have to cat-and-mouse so you don't get smoked. With the parkour, it's easy to take a few shots from a building and displace to another. Also, unless a player has unlocked Electric Smoke and has it equipped, if you rodeo a Titan (climb up on it's back), you'll take them down in less than 20 seconds without some sort of intervention.
 

Lil Frier

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When I played Halo 4 (4v4 infinity slayer), or other small 4v4,5v5,6v6 games there is TONS of cooperation. Your input as a team member means a lot more. Halo 4 infinity slayer was my favorite mode, I dominated it as well which helped.

I'd like to call bullshit right here. I've played lots of Halo 4, and you couldn't be more wrong. It's no different than CoD, when it comes to cooperation. It's extremely rare to find strangers with mics. The redeeming quality is that you're playing 4-on-4, so you can usually carry people when you do really well. Hell, I had to give up CtF, and pretty much everything but Infinity Slayer, simply because I couldn't tolerate the total lack of coordination and losing because I am the only one who will defend the flag.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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how many people are hating on this game because one of the devs happens to have worked on CoD? I bet most of them...seems par for the course in pc gaming these days.
 

Wingznut

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how many people are hating on this game because one of the devs happens to have worked on CoD? I bet most of them...seems par for the course in pc gaming these days.
And pretty much all of those people haven't even tried the game.
 

smackababy

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how many people are hating on this game because one of the devs happens to have worked on CoD? I bet most of them...seems par for the course in pc gaming these days.

Name rhymes with COD? Has to be awful! One of the developers went to highschool 4 years after one of the guys who played COD once? Has to be awful!
 

slag

Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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I played about an hour of the beta (Training and some Conquest), and I have to admit- The game has potential. Other than the extreme lag which better not be there on launch, I would say the game play is just different enough from the typical FPS..

Just out of curiosity, what do you guys think the XB1 vs PC sales for this title will be like? Do you think the PC stands a chance of outselling the XB1?

There's no lag on the pc version. I played all day sunday on a modest system with uverse internet and there was no server induced lag that I felt. It was responsive, snappy, and fun to play. Hit level 14 pretty quickly and had a blast destroying other mechs.
 

slag

Lifer
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Once you really get into the workings of the game, the Pilots are formitable against Titans. The anti-titan weapons that everyone has deal significant damage, you just have to cat-and-mouse so you don't get smoked. With the parkour, it's easy to take a few shots from a building and displace to another. Also, unless a player has unlocked Electric Smoke and has it equipped, if you rodeo a Titan (climb up on it's back), you'll take them down in less than 20 seconds without some sort of intervention.

Before I got electric smoke, I had that happen a few times. Just pop out, tag them with a shot gun before they know what happened, and get back in. Magic smoke works really well though.
 

VashHT

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Bah I feel like I'm the only person who didn't get in, was really looking forward to trying it out too.
 

VulgarDisplay

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The more I play the more I hate some things about the game. The AI is the worst addition to the game they could have made. It is atrociously bad. 90% if the time they just sit there and look at you. They almost never shoot at players.

The smart pistol us a joke and if it stays in the game I won't be buying it. Its especially bad if you haven't upgraded the targeting on it. Other players can lock on further and faster meaning you cannot win a fight against them. The fact that a full lock with it is instant death to a player character is a joke also. It literally takes no skill. I had people kill me with it when I wasn't even visible on their screen anymore.

Now the titans. They are too easy to get. Two minutes into the game EVERY player in the game has one and the maps can't really support them all. The city map you can't even walk around because you are stuck behind them. The other map handles it better, but doesn't change the fact that the mechs are too easy to get.

If they remove the smart pistol and make the mechs much harder to call in I would buy this game for $20 maybe.
 

Lil Frier

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Oct 3, 2013
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The more I play the more I hate some things about the game. The AI is the worst addition to the game they could have made. It is atrociously bad. 90% if the time they just sit there and look at you. They almost never shoot at players.

The smart pistol us a joke and if it stays in the game I won't be buying it. Its especially bad if you haven't upgraded the targeting on it. Other players can lock on further and faster meaning you cannot win a fight against them. The fact that a full lock with it is instant death to a player character is a joke also. It literally takes no skill. I had people kill me with it when I wasn't even visible on their screen anymore.

Now the titans. They are too easy to get. Two minutes into the game EVERY player in the game has one and the maps can't really support them all. The city map you can't even walk around because you are stuck behind them. The other map handles it better, but doesn't change the fact that the mechs are too easy to get.

If they remove the smart pistol and make the mechs much harder to call in I would buy this game for $20 maybe.

It sounds like it's not worth changing, then. If one person says that major changes make it a $20 game, then that person's not the target of the game, and his opinion really isn't something worth considering.

That said, I agree with the first parts. It seems like Titans are too common, and it clutters the maps badly. The pistol's ability to auto-aim is moronic as well. Once you said that fixes make it a $20 game, I stopped taking what you say seriously, though. It's just not a rational statement.
 

gothamhunter

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If you jump with smart pistols locking on the lock goes away.

I disagree about the Titans.

The AI definitely is dumb.
 
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