[H]Titanfall just 6v6

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futurefields

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weak console cpu's hamstringing game development, thats the only reason game is limited to 6v6 - console cpu's cant handle any more. this generation is awful.
 

VulgarDisplay

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weak console cpu's hamstringing game development, thats the only reason game is limited to 6v6 - console cpu's cant handle any more. this generation is awful.
BF4 on last gen is 24 players. BF4 on next gen is 64. CPU is not the problem with this game. It's just a failed concept that they didn't get the demo about.

We've already played this game and it was called brink and it was HORRID.
 
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I'll admit my interest in this game nosedived once I found out about the MP focus, but there's a lot to like about it and I think it could actually still be good.

My biggest gripe is that so far the world just feels...lacking. From what I've seen the stages are tin can futuristic urban environments that feel pretty hollow. I'm worried that the variety is going to be low.

I'd love for a modern shooter that could fulfill the scale that Halo hinted at (and Bungie promised but never really delivered on properly). Titanfall gives me kinda the same feeling, there's quite a bit to like but feels like it could be so much more.
 

EDUSAN

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well... i dont actually care about the amount of players... but i guess its refreshing to see a game that tries to keep the old school feeling of small tight teams...

i used to play Ut2k4 CTF 5v5 or 6v6 with my clan...good days
 

cmdrdredd

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I'd love for a modern shooter that could fulfill the scale that Halo hinted at (and Bungie promised but never really delivered on properly). Titanfall gives me kinda the same feeling, there's quite a bit to like but feels like it could be so much more.

That would be Destiny. Not for pc though
 

Spidre

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All this speculation from people already set to not buy it without playing it at all.

From what I get, the AI are more like creep from a MOBA. They are not replacement or acting as separate players in the game. There is absolutely no reason that the AI will make or break the competitiveness of the game. As of now, MOBAs are at the top of the chain for 'esports'.

Also 6v6 was determined to be the ideal number for competitive multiplayer, which was decided by the people who actually made it and have access to it. CS:GO is ideal at 5v5 for ranked, but has access to higher numbers for casual and custom. I have a feeling this game will be similar.

I am not saying this game will be great, but by the looks of it I will most likely buy it. I am turned off by the non-dedicated servers, origin requirement, and lack of custom map access at launch. Those aren't deal-breakers though, and I will wait for reviews and finished gameplay trailers to decide.
 

ImpulsE69

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All this speculation from people already set to not buy it without playing it at all.

From what I get, the AI are more like creep from a MOBA. They are not replacement or acting as separate players in the game. There is absolutely no reason that the AI will make or break the competitiveness of the game. As of now, MOBAs are at the top of the chain for 'esports'.

Also 6v6 was determined to be the ideal number for competitive multiplayer, which was decided by the people who actually made it and have access to it. CS:GO is ideal at 5v5 for ranked, but has access to higher numbers for casual and custom. I have a feeling this game will be similar.

I am not saying this game will be great, but by the looks of it I will most likely buy it. I am turned off by the non-dedicated servers, origin requirement, and lack of custom map access at launch. Those aren't deal-breakers though, and I will wait for reviews and finished gameplay trailers to decide.

Uh, where you been for the last 25 years? That is the #1 way people decide. People are more informed today than ever. Most people purchase a game without having ever played it....wtf man. Impressions are everything, and people have slowly been learning not to believe the hype train and specially cut trailers. Game companies have done this to themselves, you sound like one of those devs who thinks people should just buy their $60 just because! This isn't a consumer issue, it's a publisher issue.

The game looks generic, in every way. 6v6 in todays world is also pretty low, however, I agree, it really depends on what the games focus in MP is.
 
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Kev

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Uh, where you been for the last 25 years? That is the #1 way people decide. People are more informed today than ever. Most people purchase a game without having ever played it....wtf man. Impressions are everything, and people have slowly been learning not to believe the hype train and specially cut trailers. Game companies have done this to themselves, you sound like one of those devs who thinks people should just buy their $60 just because! This isn't a consumer issue, it's a publisher issue.

The game looks generic, in every way. 6v6 in todays world is also pretty low, however, I agree, it really depends on what the games focus in MP is.

Everyone who actually has played it at shows has raved about it. This thread is full of people whining because it's "only 6v6." If you think it looks generic, great, don't buy it. But saying stuff "6v6 in todays world is also pretty low" is just baseless nonsense.
 

Gunbuster

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I started out pretty hyped for TitanFall as the initial art had some Appleseed flavor to it.

My excitement notched down when they showed more of the greebled out Hawken style titans.

Notched down again with this announcement.
 

Spidre

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Uh, where you been for the last 25 years? That is the #1 way people decide. People are more informed today than ever. Most people purchase a game without having ever played it....wtf man. Impressions are everything, and people have slowly been learning not to believe the hype train and specially cut trailers. Game companies have done this to themselves, you sound like one of those devs who thinks people should just buy their $60 just because! This isn't a consumer issue, it's a publisher issue.

The game looks generic, in every way. 6v6 in todays world is also pretty low, however, I agree, it really depends on what the games focus in MP is.

Demos, gameplay trailers, reviews. This is what I was talking about.
 

cmdrdredd

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Demos, gameplay trailers, reviews. This is what I was talking about.

There are almost never any demos of games today and there are a lot of videos out there for this game. Not one of the videos makes me care about it. Other games do make me care through their videos because they show me something exciting that isn't done in ever other game out there.

This game is built by the team who started the "new map pack a year for $60" trend and published by the consumer voted worst video game company, EA. Those are reason enough for me to be skeptical. Plus as I said, not one video PR write up has had me even remotely impressed. Not the graphics, not the weapons, certainly not the story...wait what story? And not the mechs.

You think MOBA's are at the top of the chain for competitive games? Tell that to the fighting game community who broke records for most watched video game tourney last year.
 

smackababy

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There are almost never any demos of games today and there are a lot of videos out there for this game. Not one of the videos makes me care about it. Other games do make me care through their videos because they show me something exciting that isn't done in ever other game out there.

This game is built by the team who started the "new map pack a year for $60" trend and published by the consumer voted worst video game company, EA. Those are reason enough for me to be skeptical. Plus as I said, not one video PR write up has had me even remotely impressed. Not the graphics, not the weapons, certainly not the story...wait what story? And not the mechs.

You think MOBA's are at the top of the chain for competitive games? Tell that to the fighting game community who broke records for most watched video game tourney last year.

MOBAs have easily eclipsed the FCG in both prizes and viewership. The FCG only wishes it had eSports money.
 

biostud

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Since you rarely encounter more than 3-5 persons at the same time in any fps then there's really no need for more players. Also it get more personal if there are few players. But few players doesn't guarantee a good game paly.
 

smackababy

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Since you rarely encounter more than 3-5 persons at the same time in any fps then there's really no need for more players. Also it get more personal if there are few players. But few players doesn't guarantee a good game paly.

It all depends on the maps and speed of the game. In a game like BF4, on a lot of the larger maps you need that many people to drive the interaction. Otherwise, you are pretty much all alone. In a game like Halo, the maps are designed specifically for smaller skirmishes and work with a smaller number of people 4v4 is perfect.

I hope Titanfall does this right.
 

cmdrdredd

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MOBAs have easily eclipsed the FCG in both prizes and viewership. The FCG only wishes it had eSports money.

I said record number of viewers. Evo 2013 is the most watched video game tourney in history from what I read.
 

Spidre

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Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. The point is, whether you like it or not, MOBAs are the craze right now. It was more of a side point I was bringing up, so don't look too much into it.

You say it looks generic.... why? Because you shoot guns? I think it's getting the hate for the exact opposite; it's not generic. They are trying something new with multiplayer story and PvEvP. If this game was just 'battlefield with some robots' I bet people would be eating it up.

The only game I can think that tried something like this was Brink, which failed to make it work. I, for one, liked CoD 4. It was the last CoD I bought, and I enjoyed it quite a bit. This team hasn't made a CoD game since then, so hating them on that is like hating on the 1967 Leaf's team.
 

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I said record number of viewers. Evo 2013 is the most watched video game tourney in history from what I read.

Well it's not. It only pulled a total of 1.7 million viewers over a weekend. It only has the record for the "fighting" genre. 32 million people watched the final match of the LoL S3 championship. The 1.7 million for Evo is still less than LoL's S2 championship match.

Even if you looked at concurrent viewers for a single game at EVO 2013, one single LoL streamer has eclipsed the peak number of viewers any of them had.

You think that fighting games are top of the food chain? Tell that to the MOBA community.
 

cmdrdredd

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Well it's not. It only pulled a total of 1.7 million viewers over a weekend. It only has the record for the "fighting" genre. 32 million people watched the final match of the LoL S3 championship. The 1.7 million for Evo is still less than LoL's S2 championship match.

Even if you looked at concurrent viewers for a single game at EVO 2013, one single LoL streamer has eclipsed the peak number of viewers any of them had.

You think that fighting games are top of the food chain? Tell that to the MOBA community.

Ok...so I read wrong. Doesn't matter.

I am not give a crap who watched whatever online. I care about whether a game is good or not and so far...this isn't ticking any of the columns for me to think about purchasing.

What is funny is watching people rail against our opinions based on what we know and have seen. If we dont like it and express that opinion why do people feel like it is a slap in their face? I mean really.
 
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This game is built by the team who started the "new map pack a year for $60" trend and published by the consumer voted worst video game company, EA. Those are reason enough for me to be skeptical. P.

This guy summarized what I have been thinking. These guys churned out the same crap year after year, essentially put the ability to find mods for games to an end and just seem like whiny complainers. Aren't these the guys that were making fun of EA during their contact dispute? Come on EA may be a crummy company but leave that junk to the courts.
 

sushiwarrior

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This game is built by the team who started the "new map pack a year for $60" trend and published by the consumer voted worst video game company, EA. Those are reason enough for me to be skeptical. Plus as I said, not one video PR write up has had me even remotely impressed. Not the graphics, not the weapons, certainly not the story...wait what story? And not the mechs.

You've got to be kidding me. COD4 had a SINGLE DLC map pack. ONE. And it was free on PC. You're getting your studios confused.
 

smackababy

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You've got to be kidding me. COD4 had a SINGLE DLC map pack. ONE. And it was free on PC. You're getting your studios confused.

He is trying to suggest that each iteration after COD4 was the same yearly release and all because of IW. I mean, obviously COD5 wasn't a WW2 shooter and BLOPS wasn't developed by a different studio entirely.


It is funny that if a company releases a game too similar to one that everyone loves, they get a ton of flack for "a map pack", yet if they release something with a lot of differences, everyone hates them because "why couldn't they just release X again!".

The best part is this game hasn't been released and everyone is like "omg it was made by a company that made COD4, therefore it is trash and only has 6v6 omg! why can't we have quake ctf 5v5 anymore!"
 

KeithTalent

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Just watched some gameplay and it just reminded me of Battlefield 2142, which was a snooze. Not interested.

KT
 

sushiwarrior

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Ok...so I read wrong. Doesn't matter.

I am not give a crap who watched whatever online. I care about whether a game is good or not and so far...this isn't ticking any of the columns for me to think about purchasing.

What is funny is watching people rail against our opinions based on what we know and have seen. If we dont like it and express that opinion why do people feel like it is a slap in their face? I mean really.

Lol, you're flip flopping awfully fast viewership matters when it's supporting your opinion, and then doesn't when your numbers are wrong. I think you should just wait until we know more about the game. And not judge based on genre, number of players, etc. so quickly.
 
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