[H]Titanfall just 6v6

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dougp

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No I personally didn't play it, but I sat and watched my buddy play it for a few minutes, that was enough for me to see what the game was

You just made every post you've made in here in regards to the game null and void.
 

JumBie

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May 2, 2011
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You just made every post you've made in here in regards to the game null and void.

Not necessarily. This is a video game, in this day and age you don't have to physically play a game to make judgement on it at all. Were in an age of "Lets Play!" millions of people judge a game based on video reviews and these user created content. You can base a formal opinion on a game through this content. I didn't have to play Aliens: Colonial Marines to know I didn't like it, and that it was a terrible game. I had reviews, articles, tons of walk-throughs and game play videos to base my opinion off of, this is 2014.
 

tential

Diamond Member
May 13, 2008
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Sounds like you're on my page level of many games Jumbie. I really don't like many new games, especially shooters and it's for the same reason I enjoyed CS when I first picked it up in 1.5 when it was just moving to 1.6. CS is a straight up tactical shooter. You have 1 simple objective, plant/defuse bomb, and when it's over, the game ends, and a new one starts.

These new games all seem to have 1 common thread. They try to make the game as hectic/fast paced as humanly possible. So they add killstreaks, massive amounts of players, crazy environments, HUGE maps, etc. In fact, every game the whole point is MORE MORE MORE. It's never "Lets see how we can make the game play better.", it's how many guns can we have in this one, how many maps, how big are the maps, how crazy can we make the maps? Can we merge 3 maps into 1 map?

Counter Strike players aren't going to really ever feel at home in this modern day age of gaming. Gaming has changed for the worse.

If I was going to change Counter Strike to market it to the main stream gamer today I would do this.
Larger game modes
Kill Streaks
Vehicles
Leveling up (Every game has to have a system of leveling somehow)
More weapons
Unlockable weapons
Pay only weapons
More character models/customizations
Additions to pay for more models.
Matchmaking
etc.

Sadly, the best shooter I've played in the last 3-4 years was Halo 4 and the Halo series in general. Because it's most likely limited by console hardware, they can't do huge scale game modes so 4 on 4 is still very common. That was when my team/team mates used the most tactics/strategies to win games.

But in BF4? 32 on 32? Ya, it's run around and take objectives. Or don't. No one really cares. We're just shooting each other for 30+ minutes straight and then on to a new game! Hopefully you have a high K/D right? 30+ minute frag fests under the guise of a "game mode". Really, they might as well call it TDM with an option to do other things to score points.

I won't make any judgements off of Titanfall just yet, but most likely it will go the way of most modern day shooters for me.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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357
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One thing I hate is having to unlock weapons or attachments for weapons. I want to pick my load out to start and dont limit me and give me a disadvantage or I want to find each weapon on the map and use what I want.
 

sze5003

Lifer
Aug 18, 2012
14,184
626
126
I feel the game is easier than cod and maybe that's because I'm not as good as everyone else. I think it's just a game anyway, it plays like any other shooter.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
43,806
46
91
One thing I hate is having to unlock weapons or attachments for weapons. I want to pick my load out to start and dont limit me and give me a disadvantage or I want to find each weapon on the map and use what I want.

I dislike this also.
 

Venomous

Golden Member
Oct 18, 1999
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I installed it to give it a fair shake... I like COD Ghost better which isn't saying much. Probably sell like bit cakes on consoles. It's definitely not worthy of a $60 price tag.
 

Veliko

Diamond Member
Feb 16, 2011
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Sounds like you're on my page level of many games Jumbie. I really don't like many new games, especially shooters and it's for the same reason I enjoyed CS when I first picked it up in 1.5 when it was just moving to 1.6. CS is a straight up tactical shooter. You have 1 simple objective, plant/defuse bomb, and when it's over, the game ends, and a new one starts.

These new games all seem to have 1 common thread. They try to make the game as hectic/fast paced as humanly possible. So they add killstreaks, massive amounts of players, crazy environments, HUGE maps, etc. In fact, every game the whole point is MORE MORE MORE. It's never "Lets see how we can make the game play better.", it's how many guns can we have in this one, how many maps, how big are the maps, how crazy can we make the maps? Can we merge 3 maps into 1 map?

Counter Strike players aren't going to really ever feel at home in this modern day age of gaming. Gaming has changed for the worse.

If I was going to change Counter Strike to market it to the main stream gamer today I would do this.
Larger game modes
Kill Streaks
Vehicles
Leveling up (Every game has to have a system of leveling somehow)
More weapons
Unlockable weapons
Pay only weapons
More character models/customizations
Additions to pay for more models.
Matchmaking
etc.

Sadly, the best shooter I've played in the last 3-4 years was Halo 4 and the Halo series in general. Because it's most likely limited by console hardware, they can't do huge scale game modes so 4 on 4 is still very common. That was when my team/team mates used the most tactics/strategies to win games.

But in BF4? 32 on 32? Ya, it's run around and take objectives. Or don't. No one really cares. We're just shooting each other for 30+ minutes straight and then on to a new game! Hopefully you have a high K/D right? 30+ minute frag fests under the guise of a "game mode". Really, they might as well call it TDM with an option to do other things to score points.

So what is it that you actually want?

Jumbie was complaining that Titanfall is no different to CS, and you're complaining that things are too different.
 

Veliko

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Feb 16, 2011
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Not necessarily. This is a video game, in this day and age you don't have to physically play a game to make judgement on it at all. Were in an age of "Lets Play!" millions of people judge a game based on video reviews and these user created content. You can base a formal opinion on a game through this content. I didn't have to play Aliens: Colonial Marines to know I didn't like it, and that it was a terrible game. I had reviews, articles, tons of walk-throughs and game play videos to base my opinion off of, this is 2014.

So what reviews, articles, and tons of walk-throughs have you seen for Titanfall?
 

AznAnarchy99

Lifer
Dec 6, 2004
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Not really enjoying the game. The AI is bothering me more than I thought. All those years of FPSes I instantly aim for whatever is on my screen. I end up killing useless AI rather than real people.
 

Red Hawk

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Jan 1, 2011
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Not necessarily. This is a video game, in this day and age you don't have to physically play a game to make judgement on it at all. Were in an age of "Lets Play!" millions of people judge a game based on video reviews and these user created content. You can base a formal opinion on a game through this content. I didn't have to play Aliens: Colonial Marines to know I didn't like it, and that it was a terrible game. I had reviews, articles, tons of walk-throughs and game play videos to base my opinion off of, this is 2014.

Relevant:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhPmN9sgwG8

All the channels I follow have had very positive things to say about Titanfall.
 

Wingznut

Elite Member
Dec 28, 1999
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Ok, so you've already determined that Titanfall is not your thing... What's the point of going into a Titanfall thread to proclaim your dislike of it?

Does it make you feel better, like therapy?
Are you trying to convince those who like it, that they shouldn't?
Or that they are inferior because they do?
 

Modeps

Lifer
Oct 24, 2000
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Ok, so you've already determined that Titanfall is not your thing... What's the point of going into a Titanfall thread to proclaim your dislike of it?

I think the title for this thread may set the tone for what people expect in here. "Titanfall just 6v6" just seems like it's already looking for detractors.
 

sze5003

Lifer
Aug 18, 2012
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I hope they expand it later. Would be nice to have 9vs9 or even 12 players on a team and no bots. As of right now I've had my fun with the beta, but I'm unsure if I want to spend 60 dollars on it. Thief comes out next week and so does infamous in March I'm going to get both of those games too. So I'm still thinking about it. If it was $40 I would definitely buy it.
 

EDUSAN

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Apr 4, 2012
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yesterday i got UTTERLY CRUSHED by a team that knew what they were doing and were moving as a team. I liked that for the 1st time I was able to see the potential of being in a coordinated team.

Im liking the game, i was gifted it so im gonna play it for sure, but i dont know if i would buy it for $60 bucks. Well i rarely spend $60 in a game nowadays, and it being a mp only game (that is supposed to have some kind of sp story or whatever) makes me want to spend $60 even less. But its not for the game being bad, is just me that cant spend that amount of money in a game... by principle

anyone knows when the beta ends?
 

Wingznut

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Dec 28, 1999
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I think the title for this thread may set the tone for what people expect in here. "Titanfall just 6v6" just seems like it's already looking for detractors.
Good point. But still... I'm not a Two Broke Girls fan, but no way would I ever waste my time complaining about the TV show on a message board.
yesterday i got UTTERLY CRUSHED by a team that knew what they were doing and were moving as a team. I liked that for the 1st time I was able to see the potential of being in a coordinated team.

anyone knows when the beta ends?
Yesterday, I found myself on the other side. We were communicating, and all capable players. I had more fun in that couple hour session than I've had in years with a FPS!

The beta ends today at 6pm Pacific time.
 

B-Riz

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Feb 15, 2011
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Good point. But still... I'm not a Two Broke Girls fan, but no way would I ever waste my time complaining about the TV show on a message board.

Yesterday, I found myself on the other side. We were communicating, and all capable players. I had more fun in that couple hour session than I've had in years with a FPS!

The beta ends today at 6pm Pacific time.

Since this game hinges on communicating with your team, how does it compare to say Natural Selection 2 or something like that in terms of team coordination and round outcome?

*I d/l the beta last night, playing tonight.
 

MeldarthX

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I played a couple hours lastnight and I had a lot of fun; didn't hear anyone but stuck with the team and only lost one game.....k/d was decent and had fun experimenting with the titan.

It feels familar but different at the same time; which is to be expected. not sure if I'll buy it straight off; but I'll be picking it up soon......my problem is you have Thief *OH yea* around the corner; EOS; and few other games.....lol
 

Arsinek

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Feb 9, 2010
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Do you have a degree in twisting words? You should look into joining Congress or something.

Just because I don't demand a complete change on everything, it does not mean that I only like one style of play. Stop putting words in my mouth. Stop making assumptions. Your argument is extremely flawed here, and the fact you are drawing assumptions the way you are has me sick of trying ot have a "rational" conversation with you.

You are the one who keeps saying that everything is TDM or Capture and Hold, even though every shooter has alternatives, plenty of which I pointed out for both Halo and CoD (and it carries over a bit into Gears, CS:GO, and TF2 as well). You keep making the same point about game types over and over, and it's a flat-out lie.

I give up. Ignorance wins.


You have fun with your team death match bruh.
 

clok1966

Golden Member
Jul 6, 2004
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Ok, so you've already determined that Titanfall is not your thing... What's the point of going into a Titanfall thread to proclaim your dislike of it?

Does it make you feel better, like therapy?
Are you trying to convince those who like it, that they shouldn't?
Or that they are inferior because they do?

you come to a thread so you can post and OPINION and other can read.. some have not purchased.. why come to a thread that DISCUSSES a game if you dont want to discuss it but just wan to love it?

Does it make you feel better, like therapy?
Are you trying to convince those who don't like it, that they should?
Or that they are inferior because they don't?


edit// Um yes, sorry if you have not played it.. you should really have no like or dislike for it, sorry I missed that part. Not liking or liking something you have not tried is a bit silly, i do agree.



geez its a GAME.. like it or don't, discuss it or don't.. but hating those that do or don't like it will make this world a long tough row for you..

I found it underwhelming in Beta.. sorta a cartoon shooter.. impossible physics.. im in armour and i do ninja wall run crap.. we all loved the Bunny hop carp from FPS.. now they have added more (opinion) annoying ways to misjudge player paths.. I suspect it will be ahuge seller.. right now there is NOTHING on either console ... worth more then a few hours of playtime.
 
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smackababy

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MMMMM, Kat Dennings


Oh Im sorry what was this topic about?

Gap tooth, no thanks.

Seriously though, people that don't like the game are fine to discuss it. But, when you come in a thread about a came and insult those that do like it with opinions based on a beta you've never played, what do you expect?
 

DeadFred

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Jun 4, 2011
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Gap tooth, no thanks.

Seriously though, people that don't like the game are fine to discuss it. But, when you come in a thread about a came and insult those that do like it with opinions based on a beta you've never played, what do you expect?

You'll have to forgive me for not noticing the gap....for a couple of very good reasons. :biggrin:

Are internet forums not for discussing and debating topics while ridiculing and trolling your opponent all at the same time? Although it does help to have some first hand knowledge of the topic at issue, therefore someone who hasnt played the game has little to offer. LOL
 
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