[H] Yet again say SLI is smoother than crossfire

[omeds]

No of course not, but the market does reflect what is popular and liked. No one says you have to agree with it.

 

[Final8ty]

No of course not, but the market does reflect what is popular and liked. No one says you have to agree with it.

Yes the market decides what is popular which has nothing to do with ones own personal taste, so when i go out for a drink bring me a Coke because that's what i like and not a Beer because Beer is more popular here.
The market is not deciding what i personally like, so an answer let the market decide does not fit.

 

[Siberian]

AMD representatives are trying very hard to bury this issue. it may be bigger than we already know.

 

[Final8ty]

AMD representatives are trying very hard to bury this issue. it may be bigger than we already know.

You have a link to that ?
And it cant really be bigger than what we already know because what you can see with your own eyes is no secret.

 

[Siberian]

You have a link to that ?
And it cant really be bigger than what we already know because what you can see with your own eyes is no secret.

I'm saying that we have only just scratched the surface of this issue.

 

[Lepton87]

AMD representatives are trying very hard to bury this issue. it may be bigger than we already know.

What AMD representatives? all I see in this thread is NV viral marketeer.

 

[chimaxi83]

AMD representatives are trying very hard to bury this issue. it may be bigger than we already know.

For a second there, I thought this was ABT

 

[HisDivineOrder]

AMD representatives are trying very hard to bury this issue. it may be bigger than we already know.

**whistles**

The Truth is out There.

 

[omeds]

Yes the market decides what is popular which has nothing to do with ones own personal taste, so when i go out for a drink bring me a Coke because that's what i like and not a Beer because Beer is more popular here.
The market is not deciding what i personally like, so an answer let the market decide does not fit.

Thats what I just said, you dont have to agree with popular opinion.

 

[Final8ty]

Thats what I just said, you dont have to agree with popular opinion.

But that does not change the point about the reply to my personal taste does not fit when its not about what is popular in the first place.

I like my PLP 20-30-20, reply " let the market decide" i didn't ask if what i like was popular or would it ever be.

 

[omeds]

Um, ok? :/

 

[SirPauly]

The market is dictated by the collection of individuals tastes. ^

Indeed!

 

[Final8ty]

Um, ok? :/

Exactly! my point my personal tastes about PhysX or TXAA has nothing to do with

Indeed! Allow the market to decide over-all. One can only speak for themselves.

Because i didn't ask a question about either of them or if they would be popular, i stated that i didn't like them. "Indeed! Allow the market to decide over-all." has nothing to do with me liking it or not.

 

[raghu78]

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/11/12/fall_2012_gpu_driver_comparison_roundup/5

Just offering an example based on you offered can't.

that is an error. I raised the question on hardocp forums. but they said they will look into it and check again. but they failed to update the review.

here is the sleeping dogs gameplay performance review by hardocp

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/10/02/sleeping_dogs_gameplay_performance_iq_review/5

2560 X 1600 High AA

HD 7970 Ghz - avg 37.3 min 28 fps
GTX 680 avg - avg 30.3 min 26 fps

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/11/12/fall_2012_gpu_driver_comparison_roundup/5

Highest playable settings for GTX 680

2560 x 1600 High AA
GTX 680 - avg 51.5 min 39 fps

Highest playable settings for GTX 670

1920 x 1080 High AA
GTX 670 - avg 50.8 min 41 fps

the GTX 680 gains 70% between the 2 reviews. thats not possible. Also 2560 x 1600 has 2x the pixel count. GTX 680 has only 23% higher shading power. How can a GTX 670 run only at 1920 x 1080 High AA and a GTX 680 run at 2560 x 1600 High AA and get same fps. People don't analyse if the results are logical. they just blindly eat up data presented as it is. It is a human error in recording the results. In fact i am sure those GTX 680 results are for 2560 x 1600 Normal AA.

David Schroth GPU editor acknowledges that the results could be wrong.

http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1039319767&postcount=52

 

[Ferzerp]

There is an awful lot of outright dismissal of [H]'s words in this thread (along with insinuation that they're being misleading by others). Why is that?

 

[Keysplayr]

There is an awful lot of outright dismissal of [H]'s words in this thread (along with insinuation that they're being misleading by others). Why is that?

It's because information like that is devastating and just in the off chance that there really is something going on, better to try to crush it and immediately dismiss it as FUD than to even consider anything of substance there.
It's like shoot first and ask questions later.

"Well, it LOOKED like he had a gun, so I shot him before he could shoot me."

Hey, I'd probably do the same thing. You?

 

[ICDP]

There is an awful lot of outright dismissal of [H]'s words in this thread (along with insinuation that they're being misleading by others). Why is that?

Because [H] words are relating to multi GPU setups. The OP is claiming the following based on one single GPU review at TR using Windows 8.

• This is a single GPU config issue as well.
• AMD only gained the performance crown at the cost of smoothness.
• Impyling that this is widespread, he has used the term "multiple sites see this" a few times.
• The OP is a paid Nvidia focus group member so his opinion in this matter is never valid objective or fair.
• That the CF micro stutter issue is not old news.

 

[Ferzerp]

Because [H] words are relating to multi GPU setups. The OP is claiming the following based on one single GPU review at TR using Windows 8. This is a single GPU config issue as well. AMD only gained the performance crown at the cost of smoothness. Impyling that this is widespread, he has used the term "multiple sites see this" a few times. The OP is a paid Nvidia focus group member so his opinion in this matter is never valid objective or fair. That the CF micro stutter issue is not old news.

You're accusing BrightCandle of being a shill?

The name of the thread is "[H] Yet again say SLI is smoother than crossfire"

Are you sure you're replying to the correct thread?


Old info, when you don't like it, should be shouted down, and you're saying others have bad motives? It is a confirmation of an existing problem that still isn't fixed. Apparently you'd rather people not know about it? Why?



edit: I've noticed many times, a specific few posters really shout down and whitewash any mention of this issue. Of what value is hiding it to individuals here? If you care about gaming, and suggest to someone to buy 2 7970s over 2 680s knowing that the 7970s will benchmark higher, but look worse because of ms, I am not sure what to say about you.

 

[ICDP]

You're accusing BrightCandle of being a shill?

The name of the thread is "[H] Yet again say SLI is smoother than crossfire"

Are you sure you're replying to the correct thread?


Old info, when you don't like it, should be shouted down, and you're saying others have bad motives? It is a confirmation of an existing problem that still isn't fixed. Apparently you'd rather people not know about it? Why?



edit: I've noticed many times, a specific few posters really shout down and whitewash any mention of this issue. Of what value is hiding it to individuals here? If you care about gaming, and suggest to someone to buy 2 7970s over 2 680s knowing that the 7970s will benchmark higher, but look worse because of ms, I am not sure what to say about you.

Yes, I replied to the wrong thread, sorry about that. In that context anything I said in my post is pretty much pointless. If it was taken in context of the thread I thought I was in it would have made sense

Serves me right for trying to reply to two threads and watch Man City v Man Utd on TV at the same time

Though for the record I rarely recommend multi GPU and when I do I recommend SLI. I have enough experience of both to know SLI works better out of the box and requires less workarounds.

 

[Keysplayr]

Because [H] words are relating to multi GPU setups. The OP is claiming the following based on one single GPU review at TR using Windows 8.

• This is a single GPU config issue as well.
• AMD only gained the performance crown at the cost of smoothness.
• Impyling that this is widespread, he has used the term "multiple sites see this" a few times.
• The OP is a paid Nvidia focus group member so his opinion in this matter is never valid objective or fair.
• That the CF micro stutter issue is not old news.

I'm not the OP. And my opinion is every bit as valid and fair as yours is. Despite your character assassination attempt, which was funny.

 

[AnandThenMan]

Despite your character assassination attempt, which was funny.

Stating Keys is a paid Nvidia focus group member amounts to character assassination?

 

[SirPauly]

"Indeed! Allow the market to decide over-all." has nothing to do with me liking it or not.

Indeed! The market is made of many! Personally desire choice so one may find the right balance for their subjective needs based on tastes and tolerances. One may desire something and another may not -- even sometimes different views or opposing view points may get personal in nature and discussions get disruptive -- for me, personally allow the market to decide.

Vocal views on how nVidia can't compete and getting dominated and yet the market is dominating for nVidia.

 

[SirPauly]

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David Schroth GPU editor acknowledges that the results could be wrong.

More investigations are always welcomed.

 

[AnandThenMan]

Vocal views on how nVidia can't compete and getting dominated and yet the market is dominating for nVidia.

Who cares about marketshare numbers, I buy what offers the best value, and don't give a flying **** about what "the market" decides. But apparently who is pushing the most volume is more important to some than price/performance/value, which I don't understand at all.

 

[Final8ty]

Indeed! The market is made of many! Personally desire choice so one may find the right balance for their subjective needs based on tastes and tolerances. One may desire something and another may not -- even sometimes different views or opposing view points may get personal in nature and discussions get disruptive -- for me, personally allow the market to decide.

Vocal views on how nVidia can't compete and getting dominated and yet the market is dominating for nVidia.

But my comment was not about the market or what other people think, so what the market decides has no place in reply to it.

I didn't ask for other personal opinions of PhysX or TXAA because nothing will change mine or anyone else's like or dislike of them no matter if the majority like them.

Your reply is for a question that was not asked.

The comment was that his opinion is based on theory as far as others can see, but when it comes to opinions of PhysX or TXAA everyone can see where they are coming from, its not a theory they are both real, we can all see and notice them, so his opinion is not on the same playing field like you made out and the market has nothing to do with it.