[H] Yet again say SLI is smoother than crossfire

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Jaydip

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I am not sure why is such a fuss about this.For a long time now [H] has recommended sli,tri sli over the xfire counter parts.I don't remember seeing such a drama before.
 

VulgarDisplay

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I think its obvious now that not everyone is experiencing this microstutter. It's probably because the reviewers install the cards without properly removing/reinstalling drivers and profiles.

I don't think anyone is denying that there is microstutter. I have a few problems with what is being said however. Microstutter can be game dependent, or dependent on other hardware, it could even be caused by a certain monitor. Who knows, and I would love to find out.

The problem is that people came in here stating that subjective evidence was fact, and shouted down people who have experienced micro stutter with nvidia and AMD. They even refused to believe people that used both and had no microstutter with either.

It's ludicrous what people can convince themselves of out of brand loyalty. This topic needs a whole crap ton more investigation in to the causes of, solutions for, and first things first: a quantifiable way to measure microstutter. It also needs to be measured across a large amount of games.

I only have a problem when people make a fact of a subjective observation. It's like a colorblind person refusing to believe someone when they say something is red. You've all convinced yourselves that crossfire is unplayable stutter, and that Nvidia doesn't experience it at all. I pity you all.
 

3DVagabond

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I don't think anyone is denying that there is microstutter. I have a few problems with what is being said however. Microstutter can be game dependent, or dependent on other hardware, it could even be caused by a certain monitor. Who knows, and I would love to find out.

The problem is that people came in here stating that subjective evidence was fact, and shouted down people who have experienced micro stutter with nvidia and AMD. They even refused to believe people that used both and had no microstutter with either.

It's ludicrous what people can convince themselves of out of brand loyalty. This topic needs a whole crap ton more investigation in to the causes of, solutions for, and first things first: a quantifiable way to measure microstutter. It also needs to be measured across a large amount of games.

I only have a problem when people make a fact of a subjective observation. It's like a colorblind person refusing to believe someone when they say something is red. You've all convinced yourselves that crossfire is unplayable stutter, and that Nvidia doesn't experience it at all. I pity you all.

You take one sentence, pluck it out of a review, and build an entire case around it that CF is a stuttering mess. You have people call you out for your lacking scientific approach. Voilà, you have this thread. (Not you personally. I'm speaking generally, of course.)
 

VulgarDisplay

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You take one sentence, pluck it out of a review, and build an entire case around it that CF is a stuttering mess. You have people call you out for your lacking scientific approach. Voilà, you have this thread. (Not you personally. I'm speaking generally, of course.)

I understood fully. The silly thing is they think we're crying foul because we don't want this tested.

I actually want it to be tested so we have actual facts not FUD.
 

3DVagabond

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I understood fully. The silly thing is they think we're crying foul because we don't want this tested.

I actually want it to be tested so we have actual facts not FUD.

We can't just endorse a test though until, first we verify the phenomenon exists, and 2nd verify there's a test that will quantify it.
 

Jacky60

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I'm not the OP. And my opinion is every bit as valid and fair as yours is. Despite your character assassination attempt, which was funny.

Explain how a paid marketeer for Nvidia who to my knowledge has never said anything positive about AMD/ATI could possibly believe their opinion is 'fair'? In my dictionary fair is defined as equitable or impartial.
 

notty22

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I'm not sure exactly who is 'we' and 'they', but Nvidia has touted a smoother advantage from day one, of the launch of the GTX 680.
http://blogs.nvidia.com/2012/03/introducing-the-geforce-gtx-680/
The next generation GeForce GTX 680 GPU has arrived, and it packs a faster, smoother and richer gaming experience into a GPU that is simply cool and quiet.
The GeForce GTX 680 GPUs are built from an ultra power efficient Kepler architecture featuring our new SMX streaming multiprocessors and innovative NVIDIA technologies like TXAA, FXAA, Adaptive VSync and GPU Boost. Thanks to the new Kepler architecture, the GeForce GTX 680 has again set the bar for performance while at the same time using drastically less power than our Fermi-based models.
 

NIGELG

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Non answering a question with a question. Cool, I guess.
You should not talk.You are the king of deflection,I guess.

Crossfire and SLI both need a lot of work.SLI is easier to get going.AMD takes longer to get their crap in like profiles and driver updates.


If SLI is 'smoother' than Crossfire then I guess it's only blind,idiot,shills who still get a good gaming experience with crossfire and put up with stuttering because of loyalty,right?

'Mountains out of molehills'....Ryan Smith...or yes I forgot you think that ATF are bought out by AMD shills so it doesn't matter to you what he thinks.
 

SirPauly

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Black Octagon

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I own a 7970 and installed the preview version of RadeonPro recently. I'm buying myself a second 7970 for Christmas and am looking forward to finally seeing whether I experience stutter (micro or otherwise).

I assume that I WILL see some form of stutter, and I also assume that RadeonPro's new frame limiting feature will help mitigate that stutter. The question is: How much stutter will remain compared to my current stutter-free single 7970? Will it even be noticeable?

There are already reviews out there that have looked into this, but still, if anyone would like me to generate data that may currently be missing from the picture, please just say the word.
 

SirPauly

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That's the key with microstutter; it is very subjective based on individual's tolerance levels may differ.

If you find further investigations or would like to investigate your self, please share based on the awareness may help improve nVidia and AMD products -- the bigger picture.
 

Black Octagon

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That's the key with microstutter; it is very subjective based on individual's tolerance levels may differ.

If you find further investigations or would like to investigate your self, please share based on the awareness may help improve nVidia and AMD products -- the bigger picture.

Very happy to report my impressions when the time comes, sure.

I will just have to do the testing at sufficiently high framerates. This year I made the switch to 120Hz gaming and have noticed a marked improvement in smoothness. A drop from 120 to 90fps can sometimes seem like 'stutter' to me now...not sure whether it's a blessing or a curse to be honest.
 

SirPauly

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Forums are a collection of different view-points -- they're all welcomed to me - as long as they're not personal in nature.
 

SirPauly

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Great example. The more awareness, hopefully nVidia and AMD products may improve.
 
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