I think the thing is not that Windows is better then mac, it's that PC is better then mac. With a PC you can customize anything you want, and you can even put any OS you want. If you want Windows, Linux, some other OS, you can do it. Macs are more like toasters. you plug it in, and it does what it's designed for, but not more, and you can't really change what it does.
Really? I'm not aware of any open source Apple software (not doubting, just don't know about it). What has Apple done for the OS community?
I never said MS was "more" open, did I, [redacted]? All I said, in response to a post laughing about MS being more open, was that a lot of people underestimate how open MS is. Like I said, I'm unaware of Apple's OSS efforts so I didn't make any value judgement about it. Don't put words in my mouth you [redacted].I'm confused then. You attempt to indirectly support a point of view that Microsoft is "more" open when you have no idea what Apple uses and contributes back to in the open source community?
http://www.apple.com/opensource/
I never said MS was "more" open, did I, [redacted]? All I said, in response to a post laughing about MS being more open, was that a lot of people underestimate how open MS is. Like I said, I'm unaware of Apple's OSS efforts so I didn't make any value judgement about it. Don't put words in my mouth you [redacted].
Holy fuck you have to be kidding me. Yes, I support MS's open source efforts. No, I didn't say MS was more open than Apple, which is what you originally accused me of. [redacted].sigh.
P.S. "A lot of people underestimate how open MS is" is, by definition, indirect support (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/indirect - see 5)
Oh you don't believe me? You have no idea, as usual.
I can install any OS I want on any Mac currently sold. The only limitation is installing a native version of Windows older than Win XP. I can put linux on an intelMac if I want, and I can, and have built a custom desktop that runs OS X. I had to be fairly picky with the hardware, but it all works.
Did not know you could do that, like without any special hardware hacks?
Then again you are still stuck on expensive Mac hardware. I prefer PC where I can just buy the parts and build what I want, and later upgrade it.
A mac fanboi (actually girl) I know runs a dual boot G5 (winxp and OSX). She was over at our house (all computers and laptops on Win7). She was remarking how she hates Windows on her mac. I told her she's running a 10 year old OS, might as well be running OS 9 on her Mac.
Then she complained about how unreliable her 5 years old Mac was.
She's just clueless, mac or not...just clueless (yes, cool story bro)...
Did not know you could do that, like without any special hardware hacks?
Then again you are still stuck on expensive Mac hardware. I prefer PC where I can just buy the parts and build what I want, and later upgrade it.
Yet another user putting words in my mouth. Where did I say I don't like Apple because it's not open? I didn't say that - you're arguing against arguments I never made. You lose again, JD50. You lose again.I was laughing at someone saying that they don't like apple because it's not open, and then saying that they love Windows.
Sigh. Yes. As a few examples:Significant?
What I am going to tell you next, you are either not going to believe or not care about...
When I bought my MacBook 3.5 years ago, it was the cheapest, most powerful 13" dual core laptop on the market. IMO, the laptops are not too terribly overpriced, and at times are actually cheaper than or equal to the market (usually right after a hardware refresh). The desktops can be expensive, but...
Let's say you are in the market for a 30" display. You are looking at anywhere from $1200-1800 for the monitor alone. For $1800 you can get the 27" iMac which has an LED backlit IPS display, at almost the same res as the 30" (2560*1440 instead of 2560*1600) and it comes with a free computer strapped to the back.
Yet another user putting words in my mouth. Where did I say I don't like Apple because it's not open? I didn't say that - you're arguing against arguments I never made. You lose again, JD50. You lose again.
To reiterate: All I said AT ALL was that (in response to a post saying Windows is a closed system) while Windows is closed MS has made significant contributions to OSS. THAT'S ALL I SAID.
I don't care what debate you're having, I wasn't responding to your posts because I don't like you. I only bother responding to your trollage when you address me directly.Scroll up and read my first post in this thread and the post that I was responding to. You know, the start of this whole "debate" we're having. RIF
I don't care what debate you're having, I wasn't responding to your posts because I don't like you. I only bother responding to your trollage when you address me directly.
Maybe it's different for laptops then.. what about their desktops, have they gone down as well? I just remember seeing their desktops for ridiculous prices compared to a PC (which can be customized) with same specs, but that was a while back, maybe things have changed.
Sigh. Yes. As a few examples:
* MS funded the Codeplex Foundation (and some of the founders are MS employees).
* ASP.net MVC (MS's new web application framework) is completely open source (in fact I believe all of ASP.net is open source, although I could be wrong about this)
* MS developed the open source AJAX toolkit and a really freaking cool javascript loader
* MS agreed to allow Mono developers to basically infringe on their patents so that open source C# implementations could flourish
* MS sponsors the Apache Foundation, an open source direct competitor to their ISS product
* MS made huge contributions to the Windows implementation of PHP
* The new Dynamic Language Runtime (DLR) that allows Ruby, Python and other dynamic languages to execute on the .NET stack is OSS.
These are just a small number of things MS contributes to. For a more comprehensive list, check this out. Now to clarify so that no more imbeciles accuse me of saying something I'm not saying, I don't think MS is the most open company out there. I don't think MS is necessarily more open than Apple (this may be the case but I'm certainly not making that assertion). I do think that MS has a lot of proprietary software and I don't necessarily think this is a bad thing.