hacker show on USA - Mr. Robot

[ImpulsE69]

Believe me when I say the banking world goes down way easier than you would think. Technically you don't even need to bring it down as so much as slow it to a crawl. In the world you are talking about, seconds count. Switching over to disaster recovery is time which is lost money - and they are much messier than they will admit.

That being said, it would still take massive insider knowledge across many firms and an insane amount of coordination to have the kind of impact they are looking for.

 

[Charmonium]

But wasn't the idea the same as behind Fight Club - to essentially give everyone, or almost everyone, a clean slate. I admit that disaster recovery is messy and time consuming but the fact remains that it can be done. Hell, the banks would just make shit up if they had to - sort of like what they did with robo-signing of foreclosures.

 

[destrekor]

But wasn't the idea the same as behind Fight Club - to essentially give everyone, or almost everyone, a clean slate. I admit that disaster recovery is messy and time consuming but the fact remains that it can be done. Hell, the banks would just make shit up if they had to - sort of like what they did with robo-signing of foreclosures.

Well, it's not quite that simple.

Market crashes are beyond hectic, 1 percenters and funds managers having heart attacks over momentary activity. Global collapse of active commodity and bond trading, especially if all of the networks involved are fully compromised (including any redundant links... that would negate what servers and backups even mean in the equation), that would devastate valuations. Once anyone "in the know" make devaluations reality a financial reality in the books, money changes hands in drastic ways. Repeat this throughout the entire global market, you shake up everything. You don't have to kill the markets outright and keep it dead for the world to fundamentally change - you can bring the world to a halt and have it be 100% legal on the books, with shares and money changing hands with complete legitimacy.

Markets are fragile but redundant, so the insider threat is the most important component.

 

[DaTT]

When is the second episode available?

 

[rh71]

When is the second episode available?

snapped from myepisodes.com

nice touch with the episode names.ext.

 

[sourceninja]

...

 

[Charmonium]

Well, it's not quite that simple.

Market crashes are beyond hectic, 1 percenters and funds managers having heart attacks over momentary activity. Global collapse of active commodity and bond trading, especially if all of the networks involved are fully compromised (including any redundant links... that would negate what servers and backups even mean in the equation), that would devastate valuations. Once anyone "in the know" make devaluations reality a financial reality in the books, money changes hands in drastic ways. Repeat this throughout the entire global market, you shake up everything. You don't have to kill the markets outright and keep it dead for the world to fundamentally change - you can bring the world to a halt and have it be 100% legal on the books, with shares and money changing hands with complete legitimacy.

Markets are fragile but redundant, so the insider threat is the most important component.

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Do you mean a deleveraging event where the financial system seizes up? Because we had that in 2008 and I don't remember anyone's debt getting wiped clean. All it did was create a 5 year recession that only made things worse for the average person.

If you're talking about just bringing network speeds to a crawl, wasn't that done like 20 years ago by some kid using a Unix hack? He caused the internet to slow to a crawl. Again, I'm not seeing how this gets anyone off the hook with credit card companies or helps anyone in any way.

 

[ImpulsE69]

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Do you mean a deleveraging event where the financial system seizes up? Because we had that in 2008 and I don't remember anyone's debt getting wiped clean. All it did was create a 5 year recession that only made things worse for the average person.

If you're talking about just bringing network speeds to a crawl, wasn't that done like 20 years ago by some kid using a Unix hack? He caused the internet to slow to a crawl. Again, I'm not seeing how this gets anyone off the hook with credit card companies or helps anyone in any way.

Two different things. Wiping out peoples debt is entirely different objective than putting a wrench in the financial industry. Wiping out peoples debt would be darn near impossible these days. You might be able to get some, but not all. It would be far easier to bring the industry down temporarily, but keeping it down indefinitely is what would be required to wipe out debt (simply through lack of interconnection). It probably isn't possible without worldwide intervention. Even then, once the system comes back up (as it inevitably would), so does the debt.

 

[Lifted]

But Fight Club definitely, just because of the whole financial meltdown

:whiste:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCKRI2wEw7I&t=0m34s

 

[Charmonium]

Slater's character was kind of a dick at the end of ep02.

 

[destrekor]

Slater's character was kind of a dick at the end of ep02.

That's a bit of an understatement.

I didn't get that at all. I don't think I entirely heard what he had said at the end either, I tried replaying it but couldn't pick it up.

 

[dank69]

That's a bit of an understatement.

I didn't get that at all. I don't think I entirely heard what he had said at the end either, I tried replaying it but couldn't pick it up.

There were a few lines I couldn't make out even after multiple rewinds.

 

[rh71]

(Elliott's dad pushed him out the window and broke his arm)

Do you ever think he was right?

For hurting you that day. For what you did to him. You ever think you deserved it?

For betraying his trust.

Spoiler

(pushes him over)

You didn't commit to the sacred pact you formed.

- it makes sense since he just did the same thing (hurt him for betraying his trust)

 

[Charmonium]

That's a bit of an understatement.

I didn't get that at all. I don't think I entirely heard what he had said at the end either, I tried replaying it but couldn't pick it up.

I watch everything with closed captions just for those situations where you can't make out exactly what's being said. With some shows the sound mixing is so bad you have to guess at a lot of the dialog. For stuff that you download, you can usually get english subtitles. I have to do this for most UK shows since unless you watch a lot of them and can tune your ear to each of the various accents, it can be impossible to make out a lot of the dialog.

 

[destrekor]

I watch everything with closed captions just for those situations where you can't make out exactly what's being said. With some shows the sound mixing is so bad you have to guess at a lot of the dialog. For stuff that you download, you can usually get english subtitles. I have to do this for most UK shows since unless you watch a lot of them and can tune your ear to each of the various accents, it can be impossible to make out a lot of the dialog.

I always find closed captions so distracting, but I'll have to see if I can enable that on cable DVR viewings.

 

[destrekor]

(Elliott's dad pushed him out the window and broke his arm)

Do you ever think he was right?

For hurting you that day. For what you did to him. You ever think you deserved it?

For betraying his trust.

Spoiler

(pushes him over)

You didn't commit to the sacred pact you formed.

- it makes sense since he just did the same thing (hurt him for betraying his trust)

Yeah, I guess he was doing a like for like thing. Having already known what happened to him as a kid (surely, that's why he chose to meet at the pier, straddling the rails), he wanted to demonstrate what breaking trust is like by re-enacting what happened to him as a kid.

 

[Charmonium]

I always find closed captions so distracting, but I'll have to see if I can enable that on cable DVR viewings.

Every cable company is different but for the DVR I have, you can choose every option for closed caption - font size, color, bkgrd color, etc. For some reason it doesn't work with every show but the vast majority. Sometimes you'll get one where you see the big white block letters on the black backround. But normally i have mine set to gold letters on a semitransparent background in a small font.

However you do it though, if you keep cc on all of the time, eventually you don't even notice it except when you need to double check something.

 

[JM Aggie08]

What's with networks having their main cast being overly dependent on narcotics these days?

 

[destrekor]

What's with networks having their main cast being overly dependent on narcotics these days?

Probably a quick way to roughen up an otherwise darling hero character.

However, it's fair, in that it helps many people connect to the character, and it's not that rare for people to have hidden drug problems and keep an otherwise productive professional life.

Plus, normal people stories get boring, and addictions are a great way to create a blemish on a character and to have something for them to overcome and become a better person. That's what we like in our stories, right?

Perfect people doing perfect things is kind of boring.

 

[Charmonium]

Perfect people doing perfect things is kind of boring.

Example - Hallmark channel

 

[poofyhairguy]

What's with networks having their main cast being overly dependent on narcotics these days?

It a way for them to be "dangerous" or "rebellious" without being outright bad.

 

[Lifted]

You didn't commit to the sacred pact you formed.

- it makes sense since he just did the same thing (hurt him for betraying his trust)

Christian Slater didn't push him over the edge. He jumped/fell.

 

[destrekor]

Christian Slater didn't push him over the edge. He jumped/fell.

*wink wink*

 

[ctbaars]

Is it only me that finds it ironic that Evil Corp is the least evil?

 

[Platypus]

They at least tried to get some of the tech right but, as an actual hacker, suspension of disbelief required with stuff like this.

Ditto any medical show for actual medical professionals, etc.

As far as substance abuse in our industry.. pretty accurate tbh in some cases :\ ... though agree it's done for drama in this case.