Halo 2 has gone gold.

[Robor]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
I'd really only be interested in it if it has support for coop that is in both XBox games yet they axed from the PC version the first time around. To PC gamers, Halo might not be anything special, but its coop is the sh1t if only because there are hardly any games that offer such game play anymore.

Halo 2 will have online coop? If so then I will change my mind about it.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: slag

Originally posted by: Robor
The port of Halo 1 to the PC was awful and Halo 2 is well over 2 years old. I probably wouldn't try this if it was free and ran on XP. Microsoft should have included this with Vista at no charge.

Actually, the port of halo 1 to the pc was great. didnt need much horsepower to run well, had the mouse to aim better, and multiplayer was great as well.

I think you are talking about a different game

The Halo 1 port was good? Isn't this the game that wouldn't enable AA no matter what you did? And given the average graphics it had it didn't run that well. I would agree it had great multiplayer if it had coop but it didn't so it didn't stand out there either. The best thing I can say about it is it had a KB & mouse instead of a crappy controller that's not saying much.

IIRC, halo PC struggled on a 9800PRO and 5900Ultra which were, at the time, top of the line cards.

 

[Extelleron]

Originally posted by: AgentJean
It requires DX10 but I strongly suspect it does not use any DX10 features.

MS really dropped the ball on this one. almost 3 years too late and on the wrong OS and think Halo3 will be out "soon". I'm not paying 50 bucks + a system upgrade for a 3 year old game even if it gives me the chance to pwn with a keyboard and mouse.

It doesn't require a DirectX 10 video card, it requires Windows Vista.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Extelleron

Originally posted by: AgentJean
It requires DX10 but I strongly suspect it does not use any DX10 features.

MS really dropped the ball on this one. almost 3 years too late and on the wrong OS and think Halo3 will be out "soon". I'm not paying 50 bucks + a system upgrade for a 3 year old game even if it gives me the chance to pwn with a keyboard and mouse.

It doesn't require a DirectX 10 video card, it requires Windows Vista.

there there may be a hack ... eventually

for those who still want to play it on PC

 

[BFG10K]

Actually, the port of halo 1 to the pc was great. didnt need much horsepower to run well

This is incorrect as it ran quite poorly. It's also one of the few PC games that doesn't support any form of AA because they ported it with the same non-standard rendering path used on the X-Box.

 

[jim1976]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

Actually, the port of halo 1 to the pc was great. didnt need much horsepower to run well

This is incorrect as it ran quite poorly. It's also one of the few PC games that doesn't support any form of AA because they ported it with the same non-standard rendering path used on the X-Box.

QFT..

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Originally posted by: slag
Actually, the port of halo 1 to the pc was great. didnt need much horsepower to run well, had the mouse to aim better, and multiplayer was great as well.

I think you are talking about a different game

Ignoring the fact that Halo on its own is a crap game, I don't see how anyone could actually consider it to be a good port. It looked marginally better than the likes of RTCW released around the same time yet it ran horribly on a 9200 and 9600. There's the lack of AA as people have mentioned and it always seemed more unstable than most as well. Cutting the co-op out was another sign of sloppy porting.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: slag

Originally posted by: Robor
The port of Halo 1 to the PC was awful and Halo 2 is well over 2 years old. I probably wouldn't try this if it was free and ran on XP. Microsoft should have included this with Vista at no charge.

Actually, the port of halo 1 to the pc was great. didnt need much horsepower to run well, had the mouse to aim better, and multiplayer was great as well.

I think you are talking about a different game

The Halo 1 port was good? Isn't this the game that wouldn't enable AA no matter what you did? And given the average graphics it had it didn't run that well. I would agree it had great multiplayer if it had coop but it didn't so it didn't stand out there either. The best thing I can say about it is it had a KB & mouse instead of a crappy controller that's not saying much.

IIRC, halo PC struggled on a 9800PRO and 5900Ultra which were, at the time, top of the line cards.

Halo on the PC Blew I had a 9800pro and had to turn the graphics way down. The game had crappy graphics, and still couldn't run well. If Halo 2 is the same I don't see any PC running it weill anytime soon.

Halo was suckage to me, boring enemies, generic levels, the buggy was cool but hard to control. I hated the game, it came free with my sound card and I wanted my money back after playing it.

 

[jdoggg12]

Originally posted by: QueBert
the buggy was cool but hard to control.

hahahaha, the buggy was like the easiest vehicle in any fps to control. ever.

 

[imported_BadKarma]

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy

Originally posted by: slag
Actually, the port of halo 1 to the pc was great. didnt need much horsepower to run well, had the mouse to aim better, and multiplayer was great as well.

I think you are talking about a different game

Ignoring the fact that Halo on its own is a crap game, I don't see how anyone could actually consider it to be a good port. It looked marginally better than the likes of RTCW released around the same time yet it ran horribly on a 9200 and 9600. There's the lack of AA as people have mentioned and it always seemed more unstable than most as well. Cutting the co-op out was another sign of sloppy porting.

Not to mention that the game didn't support custom map out of the box. You only had a handful of decent multiplayer maps to play on and those get old rather quickly. Gearbox, who ported the game, later released an addon which allow custom maps. Even then the addon wasn't officially supported. :thumbsdown:

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: QueBert
Halo on the PC Blew I had a 9800pro and had to turn the graphics way down. The game had crappy graphics, and still couldn't run well. If Halo 2 is the same I don't see any PC running it weill anytime soon.

Are you kidding? Not like Halo 2 is all that much more graphically advanced than Halo, they were both programmed for the same hardware...unless this port comes with "enhancements" to try and make it look better I don't see it performing as poorly as the first time around.

 

[Nightmare225]

Originally posted by: BadKarma

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy

Originally posted by: slag
Actually, the port of halo 1 to the pc was great. didnt need much horsepower to run well, had the mouse to aim better, and multiplayer was great as well.

I think you are talking about a different game

Ignoring the fact that Halo on its own is a crap game, I don't see how anyone could actually consider it to be a good port. It looked marginally better than the likes of RTCW released around the same time yet it ran horribly on a 9200 and 9600. There's the lack of AA as people have mentioned and it always seemed more unstable than most as well. Cutting the co-op out was another sign of sloppy porting.

Not to mention that the game didn't support custom map out of the box. You only had a handful of decent multiplayer maps to play on and those get old rather quickly. Gearbox, who ported the game, later released an addon which allow custom maps. Even then the addon wasn't officially supported. :thumbsdown:

Halo 2 has a built-in, completely-supported, fully-featured map editor.

The porting is no longer handled by Gearbox, but rather an internal Microsoft team. They even stated that the port of the original wasn't so good and they wanted something much better.

AA is now supported in Halo 2. There is an included official map editor. All the previews I read says it looks markedly better than the XBox one, due to new textures and even improved lighting.

I'm pretty sure this game will be better handled than Halo ever was.

 

[BFG10K]

If that's true Nightmare225 then it does sound promising indeed. :thumbsup:

 

[secretanchitman]

Originally posted by: BFG10K
If that's true Nightmare225 then it does sound promising indeed. :thumbsup:

yeap, ive read about all of the above somewhere on another site...totally true. built-in map creator/editor and another team is porting it. since its also a "games for windows", you can be sure there will be widescreen support (yay 1920x1080) and even x64 support...

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: QueBert
Halo on the PC Blew I had a 9800pro and had to turn the graphics way down. The game had crappy graphics, and still couldn't run well. If Halo 2 is the same I don't see any PC running it weill anytime soon.

Are you kidding? Not like Halo 2 is all that much more graphically advanced than Halo, they were both programmed for the same hardware...unless this port comes with "enhancements" to try and make it look better I don't see it performing as poorly as the first time around.

code any engine poorly enough and it will run like crap on the latest and greatest hardware *cough* FEAR *cough cough*

 

[styrafoam]

I honestly don't understand Microsofts angle with these games.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: QueBert
Halo on the PC Blew I had a 9800pro and had to turn the graphics way down. The game had crappy graphics, and still couldn't run well. If Halo 2 is the same I don't see any PC running it weill anytime soon.

Are you kidding? Not like Halo 2 is all that much more graphically advanced than Halo, they were both programmed for the same hardware...unless this port comes with "enhancements" to try and make it look better I don't see it performing as poorly as the first time around.

code any engine poorly enough and it will run like crap on the latest and greatest hardware *cough* FEAR *cough cough*

Well it does sound like they'll be updating the game to be noticeably better looking than the original, however my point was they screwed up the original yet because so much time has passed it can be easily handled by low to midrange hardware of today. Thus I seriously doubt it will struggle on today's high end like Halo did on high end hardware when it first debuted for PC. Of course that all depends, as I said before, on how much crap they try to add to it in order to make it look better.

 

[apoppin]

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39095

Hacked DX10 for Windows appears

MICROSOFT HAS BEEN talking about DirectX 10 being an integral part of Vista, saying that DirectX 10 could not be implemented onto any other operating systems. The reason for this is the approach of DirectX 10 inside the Vista kernel, with a more console-style approach to hardware.

However, that was before the Alky Project came to light limelight.

A chap called Cody Brocious from San Diego, California, claims to have started to create an wrapper for Windows executables so that they can be ran on another operating system, with no prejudice about that operating system.

A year in, the Alky Project has gone live under the cover of a company Falling Leaf Systems. Members of its Sapling Program will be able to get the wrappers for DirectX10 applications and run them not just on DX10 hardware under Windows XP, but with some DX9 hardware as well.

Although this sounds like a fairytale, Cody claims he reverse-engineered the Geometry Shader code, and that users will be able to run Windows games intended on the Mac OS X on x86-based Macinteltoshes as well as Linux.

While we are waiting for the wrappers so that we can show DX10 running under Windows XP - or not - you can check out the claims yourself.

follow the links

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: apoppin
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39095

Hacked DX10 for Windows appears

MICROSOFT HAS BEEN talking about DirectX 10 being an integral part of Vista, saying that DirectX 10 could not be implemented onto any other operating systems. The reason for this is the approach of DirectX 10 inside the Vista kernel, with a more console-style approach to hardware.

However, that was before the Alky Project came to light limelight.

A chap called Cody Brocious from San Diego, California, claims to have started to create an wrapper for Windows executables so that they can be ran on another operating system, with no prejudice about that operating system.

A year in, the Alky Project has gone live under the cover of a company Falling Leaf Systems. Members of its Sapling Program will be able to get the wrappers for DirectX10 applications and run them not just on DX10 hardware under Windows XP, but with some DX9 hardware as well.

Although this sounds like a fairytale, Cody claims he reverse-engineered the Geometry Shader code, and that users will be able to run Windows games intended on the Mac OS X on x86-based Macinteltoshes as well as Linux.

While we are waiting for the wrappers so that we can show DX10 running under Windows XP - or not - you can check out the claims yourself.

follow the links

In reference to the bolded part, does that mean Linux users and run Windows games without the need for Cedega or WINE? If so that is *GREAT* news.

 

[apoppin]

i *may* be a hoax

don't get excited - yet

 

[Coolone]

Yeah.....I dont care. Too little too late

 

[slag]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: slag

Originally posted by: Robor
The port of Halo 1 to the PC was awful and Halo 2 is well over 2 years old. I probably wouldn't try this if it was free and ran on XP. Microsoft should have included this with Vista at no charge.

Actually, the port of halo 1 to the pc was great. didnt need much horsepower to run well, had the mouse to aim better, and multiplayer was great as well.

I think you are talking about a different game

The Halo 1 port was good? Isn't this the game that wouldn't enable AA no matter what you did? And given the average graphics it had it didn't run that well. I would agree it had great multiplayer if it had coop but it didn't so it didn't stand out there either. The best thing I can say about it is it had a KB & mouse instead of a crappy controller that's not saying much.

Graphics are only a small part of the game, and even without AA, it looked good. The gameplay itself was awesome and i went through it a few times.. sticky grenades are so cool and sniping!!!! woo hoo.

Multiplayer is very fun also...

I also never had any problems running it on a mildly overclocked system with I believe a TI4200 video card.

To all you whiners crying about lack of AA, if the gameplay is good enough, you really dont notice these things.. .. at least i didnt.

 

[MikeyLSU]

I'm thinking of getting this game. Curious about how good it looks though. Unless it is a very big upgrade from the XBOX version no chance. I have seen screenshots, but you have to see game footage and play it to get a good feel.

I hope they release a demo.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: MikeyLSU
I'm thinking of getting this game. Curious about how good it looks though. Unless it is a very big upgrade from the XBOX version no chance. I have seen screenshots, but you have to see game footage and play it to get a good feel.

I hope they release a demo.

as with all things, wait for reviews and bargain bin prices (one of the benefits of PC gaming - cheaper games!)

 

[Nightmare225]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: MikeyLSU
I'm thinking of getting this game. Curious about how good it looks though. Unless it is a very big upgrade from the XBOX version no chance. I have seen screenshots, but you have to see game footage and play it to get a good feel.

I hope they release a demo.

as with all things, wait for reviews and bargain bin prices (one of the benefits of PC gaming - cheaper games!)

:thumbsup: