Hamas Spiritual Leader Killed by Israelis

[Czar]

Originally posted by: BDawg
CNN TV is reporting that Hamas is threatening retaliation against the US.

Link

"The Zionists cannot have carried out this act without the approval of the U.S. administration, which carries the responsibility for this crime," the Izzedine al Qassam statement said.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=407107&contrassID=1&subContrassID=1&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y
and they will have a damn good reason if this goes through

Netanyahu conditioned his support for the separation plan on a U.S. announcement rejecting a right of return to Israel for Palestinian refugees

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

I really don't give a rat's ass about Israel. What I'm concerned about is the Hamas announcement about attacking the US. This is the first time they have ever said that apparently. Just one more example of how our relationship with Israel has been NOTHING but detrimental. There will be massive retaliation against Israel, I just pray that there isn't against us.

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
meh, just another day in the ME...

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: lozina
Yes, good riddance to this guy. But I agree with replicator, until the occupation ends there will be no end to the cycle of killings.

Were there killings and suicide bombings by the palestinians when Egypt and Syria occupied their land? Why not?

And you're telling others they have much to learn? Apparently you don't know enough to know that people tolerate homegrown dictators much more than they do foreign ones. Thus palestinians may tolerate occupation by an arab country, but not a jewish one.

So it's not the occupation per se, but the fact that it is Jews.

Got it.

No, its the fact that they're foreigners. You'd know it was the same with the British if you were interested in looking at things objectively.

And here's the shoking (for you) part. Its not just the palestinians, its *gasp* everyone that does that! Why the fsck do you think the Russians never did anything against Stalin, but fought like wild against Hitler?

It was the same with the British? How many Britains were killed by suicide bombers when they occupied that land?

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
meh, just another day in the ME...

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: lozina
Yes, good riddance to this guy. But I agree with replicator, until the occupation ends there will be no end to the cycle of killings.

Were there killings and suicide bombings by the palestinians when Egypt and Syria occupied their land? Why not?

And you're telling others they have much to learn? Apparently you don't know enough to know that people tolerate homegrown dictators much more than they do foreign ones. Thus palestinians may tolerate occupation by an arab country, but not a jewish one.

So it's not the occupation per se, but the fact that it is Jews.

Got it.

No, its the fact that they're foreigners. You'd know it was the same with the British if you were interested in looking at things objectively.

And here's the shoking (for you) part. Its not just the palestinians, its *gasp* everyone that does that! Why the fsck do you think the Russians never did anything against Stalin, but fought like wild against Hitler?

It was the same with the British? How many Britains were killed by suicide bombers when they occupied that land?

So are you still trying to suggest that Palestinian vitriol is based solely on the fact that Israelis are Jews and not foreign occupiers? Regardless of what anyone says the fact remains that the Palestinians are fighting an illegal occupation. Giving land that is rightfully theirs is not caving in to terrorism as Presence suggested, its doing what's lawful. Now if they gave land that was not considered occupied, that would be caving in. And I agree, people are a lot less likely to fight an "occupier" that has their same face than they would a foreign one, it's just the way things are.

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
meh, just another day in the ME...

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: lozina
Yes, good riddance to this guy. But I agree with replicator, until the occupation ends there will be no end to the cycle of killings.

Were there killings and suicide bombings by the palestinians when Egypt and Syria occupied their land? Why not?

And you're telling others they have much to learn? Apparently you don't know enough to know that people tolerate homegrown dictators much more than they do foreign ones. Thus palestinians may tolerate occupation by an arab country, but not a jewish one.

So it's not the occupation per se, but the fact that it is Jews.

Got it.

No, its the fact that they're foreigners. You'd know it was the same with the British if you were interested in looking at things objectively.

And here's the shoking (for you) part. Its not just the palestinians, its *gasp* everyone that does that! Why the fsck do you think the Russians never did anything against Stalin, but fought like wild against Hitler?

It was the same with the British? How many Britains were killed by suicide bombers when they occupied that land?

So are you still trying to suggest that Palestinian vitriol is based solely on the fact that Israelis are Jews and not foreign occupiers? Regardless of what anyone says the fact remains that the Palestinians are fighting an illegal occupation. Giving land that is rightfully theirs is not caving in to terrorism as Presence suggested, its doing what's lawful. Now if they gave land that was not considered occupied, that would be caving in. And I agree, people are a lot less likely to fight an "occupier" that has their same face than they would a foreign one, it's just the way things are.

What "race" are Arabs and Jews?

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
meh, just another day in the ME...

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: lozina
Yes, good riddance to this guy. But I agree with replicator, until the occupation ends there will be no end to the cycle of killings.

Were there killings and suicide bombings by the palestinians when Egypt and Syria occupied their land? Why not?

And you're telling others they have much to learn? Apparently you don't know enough to know that people tolerate homegrown dictators much more than they do foreign ones. Thus palestinians may tolerate occupation by an arab country, but not a jewish one.

So it's not the occupation per se, but the fact that it is Jews.

Got it.

No, its the fact that they're foreigners. You'd know it was the same with the British if you were interested in looking at things objectively.

And here's the shoking (for you) part. Its not just the palestinians, its *gasp* everyone that does that! Why the fsck do you think the Russians never did anything against Stalin, but fought like wild against Hitler?

It was the same with the British? How many Britains were killed by suicide bombers when they occupied that land?

So are you still trying to suggest that Palestinian vitriol is based solely on the fact that Israelis are Jews and not foreign occupiers? Regardless of what anyone says the fact remains that the Palestinians are fighting an illegal occupation. Giving land that is rightfully theirs is not caving in to terrorism as Presence suggested, its doing what's lawful. Now if they gave land that was not considered occupied, that would be caving in. And I agree, people are a lot less likely to fight an "occupier" that has their same face than they would a foreign one, it's just the way things are.

What "race" are Arabs and Jews?

Agreed that they are both Semites, non the less, when you have Jews speaking in American and other foreign accents and looking a lot less "Semetic" it changes the dyamics of people's perception. The fact remains, to Arabs they are foreigners... for whatever reason.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
meh, just another day in the ME...

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: lozina
Yes, good riddance to this guy. But I agree with replicator, until the occupation ends there will be no end to the cycle of killings.

Were there killings and suicide bombings by the palestinians when Egypt and Syria occupied their land? Why not?

And you're telling others they have much to learn? Apparently you don't know enough to know that people tolerate homegrown dictators much more than they do foreign ones. Thus palestinians may tolerate occupation by an arab country, but not a jewish one.

So it's not the occupation per se, but the fact that it is Jews.

Got it.

No, its the fact that they're foreigners. You'd know it was the same with the British if you were interested in looking at things objectively.

And here's the shoking (for you) part. Its not just the palestinians, its *gasp* everyone that does that! Why the fsck do you think the Russians never did anything against Stalin, but fought like wild against Hitler?

It was the same with the British? How many Britains were killed by suicide bombers when they occupied that land?

So are you still trying to suggest that Palestinian vitriol is based solely on the fact that Israelis are Jews and not foreign occupiers? Regardless of what anyone says the fact remains that the Palestinians are fighting an illegal occupation. Giving land that is rightfully theirs is not caving in to terrorism as Presence suggested, its doing what's lawful. Now if they gave land that was not considered occupied, that would be caving in. And I agree, people are a lot less likely to fight an "occupier" that has their same face than they would a foreign one, it's just the way things are.

What "race" are Arabs and Jews?

Agreed that they are both Semites, non the less, when you have Jews speaking in American and other foreign accents and looking a lot less "Semetic" it changes the dyamics of people's perception. The fact remains, to Arabs they are foreigners... for whatever reason.

along with religion being the prime reasons for the last few thousand years or more to create a "us vs them" mentality

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
meh, just another day in the ME...

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: lozina
Yes, good riddance to this guy. But I agree with replicator, until the occupation ends there will be no end to the cycle of killings.

Were there killings and suicide bombings by the palestinians when Egypt and Syria occupied their land? Why not?

And you're telling others they have much to learn? Apparently you don't know enough to know that people tolerate homegrown dictators much more than they do foreign ones. Thus palestinians may tolerate occupation by an arab country, but not a jewish one.

So it's not the occupation per se, but the fact that it is Jews.

Got it.

No, its the fact that they're foreigners. You'd know it was the same with the British if you were interested in looking at things objectively.

And here's the shoking (for you) part. Its not just the palestinians, its *gasp* everyone that does that! Why the fsck do you think the Russians never did anything against Stalin, but fought like wild against Hitler?

It was the same with the British? How many Britains were killed by suicide bombers when they occupied that land?

So are you still trying to suggest that Palestinian vitriol is based solely on the fact that Israelis are Jews and not foreign occupiers? Regardless of what anyone says the fact remains that the Palestinians are fighting an illegal occupation. Giving land that is rightfully theirs is not caving in to terrorism as Presence suggested, its doing what's lawful. Now if they gave land that was not considered occupied, that would be caving in. And I agree, people are a lot less likely to fight an "occupier" that has their same face than they would a foreign one, it's just the way things are.

What "race" are Arabs and Jews?

Agreed that they are both Semites, non the less, when you have Jews speaking in American and other foreign accents and looking a lot less "Semetic" it changes the dyamics of people's perception. The fact remains, to Arabs they are foreigners... for whatever reason.

along with religion being the prime reasons for the last few thousand years or more to create a "us vs them" mentality

I don't really know about that, there wasn't much beef b/n Muslims and Jews prior to the creation of Israel. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, thousands of Jews sought and received sanctuary in Muslim countries during the Holocaust. It was the creation of Israel, the resulting displacement of thousands of Palestinians and the massive influx of foreign Jews that IMO contributed to the perception of foreign occupation, it would have been the same if Israelis were Buddhists. My main point is that people who try to paint this as an anti-Jew thing are full of sh!t. There maybe anti-Jewish sentiment present now, but it didn't start of that way, like I suggested, if Buddhists had started this, there would be anti-Buddhists sentiment now too.

 

[Ornery]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: MegaWorks

Originally posted by: Chadder007
Hamas got what they deserved..... that is all. /thread

theres gonna be lots of bombing in the next weeks you moron more deaths

How would that be any different that what they are doing now?

KK

EXACTLY what I was thinking. Israel has been holding back. It's about time they really cut loose on these animals!

Edit: Would it kill you screwballs to prune the damn quotes by about two thirds?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: MegaWorks

Originally posted by: Chadder007
Hamas got what they deserved..... that is all. /thread

theres gonna be lots of bombing in the next weeks you moron more deaths

How would that be any different that what they are doing now?

KK

EXACTLY what I was thinking. Israel has been holding back. It's about time they really cut loose on these animals!

Yeah there were thousands of them demonstrating out in the streets today. Would have made for easy targets

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: MegaWorks

Originally posted by: Chadder007
Hamas got what they deserved..... that is all. /thread

theres gonna be lots of bombing in the next weeks you moron more deaths

How would that be any different that what they are doing now?

KK

EXACTLY what I was thinking. Israel has been holding back. It's about time they really cut loose on these animals!

You're missing the point. For every one you kill, there will be a 100 to take their place and the more of those you kill, the more you will have moderate Palestinians willing to take their place. Violence begets violence. Israel needs to stop giving people a reason to support Hamas, not escalate the situation. But like I said, I don't care about Israel, I'm just worried about the anger this is going to direct to the US.

 

[Ornery]

They deserve what they get. Violence seems to be the only thing they understand.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: Ornery
They deserve what they get. Violence seems to be the only thing they understand.

Same could be said about Israel, otherwise they would have stopped settlement activity and withdrawn to the original borders years ago. They don't mind spilling blood or provoking violence either. It takes two to tango, Israel just has the advantage of having the US as its bivth.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Ornery
They deserve what they get. Violence seems to be the only thing they understand.

Funny, that's what the Leaders of Al Qaeda says about us!

 

[Ornery]

"You're missing the point. For every one you kill, there will be a 100 to take their place and the more of those you kill,
the more you will have moderate Palestinians willing to take their place. Violence begets violence. Israel needs to stop
giving people a reason to support Hamas, not escalate the situation. But like I said, I don't care about Israel, I'm just
worried about the anger this is going to direct to the US. "

Israel has been holding back, and look where it gets them. It's about time the gloves came off.

Oh, and like the Palestinians and rest of the Muslims haven't been giving us grief about it till now.

"Funny, that's what the Leaders of Al Qaeda says about us!"

Yeah, I know. We asked for it.

 

[alchemize]

One less foreign leader endorsing Kerry!

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: Ornery
"You're missing the point. For every one you kill, there will be a 100 to take their place and the more of those you kill,
the more you will have moderate Palestinians willing to take their place. Violence begets violence. Israel needs to stop
giving people a reason to support Hamas, not escalate the situation. But like I said, I don't care about Israel, I'm just
worried about the anger this is going to direct to the US. "

Israel has been holding back, and look where it gets them. It's about time the gloves came off.

Oh, and like the Palestinians and rest of the Muslims haven't been giving us grief about it till now.

Oh please, don't be so blatantly ignorant. What are you trying to imply with the 9/11 picture? We have done all kinds of things to piss off people in that region, our pathetic pandering to the whims of Israel being just one of them. And so what if "the gloves come off", is Israel just going to kill off all the Palestinians? Is that what you think should happen? Pound them into submission? Put 'em in ghettos? Stop beating around the bush and say what you really mean.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: alchemize
One less foreign leader endorsing Kerry!

Wow, I see you're still as witty as ever alchemize.

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: alchemize
One less foreign leader endorsing Kerry!

You think Kerry would protect the 'hooked-nose Jews' if Hamas got out of hand in the region?

 

[Ornery]

"Oh please, don't be so blatantly ignorant. What are you trying to imply with the 9/11 picture?
We have done all kinds of things to piss off people in that region, our pathetic pandering to the
whims of Israel being just one of them. And so what if "the gloves come off", is Israel just going
to kill off all the Palestinians? Is that what you think should happen? Pound them into submission?
Put 'em in ghettos? Stop beating around the bush and say what you really mean"

Sounds like you totally understand what that image implies, so YOU quit feigning ignorance!

Yeah, we've pissed 'em off in so many ways, so 3,000 civilians deserved to die.

Killing Hamas animals is NOT killing off ALL Palistinians. Damn, what an ass...

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: pg22
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You guys ever go to the places you spend so much time talking about on messageboards?

Ummm....yes. And not just for a week or two either.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: Ornery
They deserve what they get. Violence seems to be the only thing they understand.

Same could be said about Israel, otherwise they would have stopped settlement activity and withdrawn to the original borders years ago. They don't mind spilling blood or provoking violence either. It takes two to tango, Israel just has the advantage of having the US as its bivth.

Do you actually think that if palestinians stopped the bombings and sh1t they're pulling that israel would still use it's military force to kill? I can't say that if that situation was reversed that we'd see palestinians stopping. One reason for that, they are fvckin nuts and don't give a sh1t about life nor their lives. Atleast that the perspection I get from them.

KK

 

[KK]

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