Han Solo: A Star Wars Story

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It's not a talk. He is reading him with the force.

Doesn't change the fact that it was poorly written to have Luke sneak into his nephew's hut at night...

Having felt hit nephew's inner conflict or fascination with the dark side it seems like Luke would have chosen a wiser path to find out more like actually talking to his nephew.

But no... that would make too much sense or maybe take up too much time that could be better used for the Canto Bight sequence /sarcarsm.


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[Homerboy]

My only real complaint about this movie though? The 4 armed alien guy....he sounded WAY too average earth white guy to me. Did not match his appearance at all and felt very out of place.

Could not agree with this more. It was completely out of place how "normal" he sounded. It was just stupid. It was like watching some 80s space movie or something (Last Starfighter) It was just a REALLY dumb character and even more stupid voice.

 

[Paladin]

I'm thinking that 4 arms and the droid were leftovers from the previous directors. It would have been nice to see what Ron Howard could do with the movie from the start.

 

[shortylickens]

Could not agree with this more. It was completely out of place how "normal" he sounded. It was just stupid. It was like watching some 80s space movie or something (Last Starfighter) It was just a REALLY dumb character and even more stupid voice.

They copied The Phantom Menace which is obviously a horrible idea.
Remember that one sports caster during the pod race?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3NRzGrt5z0

Granted, that movie was pretty much a total failure from the opening scene to the closing. But copying is just ridiculous.

 

[Majes]

Doesn't change the fact that it was poorly written to have Luke sneak into his nephew's hut at night...

Having felt hit nephew's inner conflict or fascination with the dark side it seems like Luke would have chosen a wiser path to find out more like actually talking to his nephew.

But no... that would make too much sense or maybe take up too much time that could be better used for the Canto Bight sequence /sarcarsm.
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Or maybe Ben was hiding his dark side involvement from Luke and wouldn't talk about it? There are a lot of issues with TLJ but this really isn't one of them...

Try for a minute to think of anything that would make Luke Skywalker give up and go into hiding. When I watched The Force Awakens I was so confused, but betraying his apprentice in a moment of weakness is somewhat plausible. I applaud TLJ's attempt at that "mystery box" plot device.

 

[Homerboy]

They copied The Phantom Menace which is obviously a horrible idea.
Remember that one sports caster during the pod race?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3NRzGrt5z0

Granted, that movie was pretty much a total failure from the opening scene to the closing. But copying is just ridiculous.

I actually thought of that character right out of the gate. It was horrible then and now.

 

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Or maybe Ben was hiding his dark side involvement from Luke and wouldn't talk about it? There are a lot of issues with TLJ but this really isn't one of them...

Try for a minute to think of anything that would make Luke Skywalker give up and go into hiding. When I watched The Force Awakens I was so confused, but betraying his apprentice in a moment of weakness is somewhat plausible. I applaud TLJ's attempt at that "mystery box" plot device.

It is exactly one of the major issues with TLJ.
Luke has already been to the proverbial hell and back in order to bring his father back to the dark side.
That he would be so unprepared to have to deal with his nephew dealing with the same temptation is just shite writing as presented in TLJ

We may just have a fundamental disagreement on this point because I don't see it as a "mystery box" attempt by Rian Johnson in an attempt as an homage to JJ Abrams as you (I half-think facetiously pretend to) do.
I just see it as the same poor writing that led to him showing Poe and others run to the bridge door to see Leia who flew back to the bridge then cut to her being placed unconscious on a med-bed. A simple fix would've been someone yelling "Clear the hallway and get me a spacesuit so I can get her back in here!" and then the same edit wouldn't look like it was ignoring the difficulty of the situation of getting her back in.

We just disagree and I suppose it's best to just acknowledge that and let it lie still....


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[blankslate]

Remember the Unbridled Rage Video posted in The Last Jedi thread?
Well MauLer has done one for Solo.

Same warnings as the other one "The video is dark and full of SPOILERS" as well as being very NSFW due to some curse words


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[Paratus]

It’s your BOYEEEE Kylo REN!

 

[Ackmed]

According to a writer on Forbes, Solo "flopped" because its lead was a white man, and they're box office poison. Little silly to me, but not surprised at the attempt.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottm...out-white-men-box-office-poison/#354197bc5d49

 

[shortylickens]

I just checked the Red Letter Media page. The predictions they made about Solo before it came out were shockingly accurate. Meaning Disney has no original thoughts left if they are so predictable.
This is a real shame, because I like Ron Howard and expected him to make something wonderful and memorable.

 

[ImpulsE69]

According to a writer on Forbes, Solo "flopped" because its lead was a white man, and they're box office poison. Little silly to me, but not surprised at the attempt.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottm...out-white-men-box-office-poison/#354197bc5d49

Pretty much every movie that flops they try to spin that it is for some reason that it isn't..when most the internet is telling them the exact issues with the movie. Then again I suppose the people complaining paid to see it most likely...so why didn't the others?

For me..the trailer was meh. The ONLY reason I went is because the wife wanted to..and she never wants to go to the theater.

 

[frozentundra123456]

According to a writer on Forbes, Solo "flopped" because its lead was a white man, and they're box office poison. Little silly to me, but not surprised at the attempt.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottm...out-white-men-box-office-poison/#354197bc5d49

The problem with the lead was that he had only about 10% of the charisma and none of the sarcastic wit that Harrison Ford had.

 

[shortylickens]

The problem with the lead was that he had only about 10% of the charisma and none of the sarcastic wit that Harrison Ford had.

Theres a rumor that a while back the creators had seriously considered Chris Pratt as a young Han Solo, but after he started playing Peter Quill that idea was nixxed. They're basically the same character.

Somebody also suggested Ben Ford for the job but they found out he couldn't act for shit. At least he would have looked right.

 

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It’s your BOYEEEE Kylo REN!

No you're not Crazy Kylo Solo
Lando's Femputer girlfriend sound's a lot like Brienne....

I HATE YOU SOOOO MUCH STANNIS!!!!!


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[Majes]

It is exactly one of the major issues with TLJ.
Luke has already been to the proverbial hell and back in order to bring his father back to the dark side.
That he would be so unprepared to have to deal with his nephew dealing with the same temptation is just shite writing as presented in TLJ

We may just have a fundamental disagreement on this point because I don't see it as a "mystery box" attempt by Rian Johnson in an attempt as an homage to JJ Abrams as you (I half-think facetiously pretend to) do.
I just see it as the same poor writing that led to him showing Poe and others run to the bridge door to see Leia who flew back to the bridge then cut to her being placed unconscious on a med-bed. A simple fix would've been someone yelling "Clear the hallway and get me a spacesuit so I can get her back in here!" and then the same edit wouldn't look like it was ignoring the difficulty of the situation of getting her back in.

We just disagree and I suppose it's best to just acknowledge that and let it lie still....


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Just want to clarify... The "mystery box" was referencing the mess of a plot that Abrams left us with after The Force Awakens. He is the one that made Luke run away and hide. It was up to Johnson to come up with an explanation for it. I found it plausible, you clearly do not. I blame a lot of TLJ's issues on the mess that was The Force Awakens. But yeah, the Princess Leia scene was absolutely unforgivable.

 

[blankslate]

Just want to clarify... The "mystery box" was referencing the mess of a plot that Abrams left us with after The Force Awakens. He is the one that made Luke run away and hide. It was up to Johnson to come up with an explanation for it. I found it plausible, you clearly do not. I blame a lot of TLJ's issues on the mess that was The Force Awakens. But yeah, the Princess Leia scene was absolutely unforgivable.

JJ was well known for setting up mysteries in the first parts of his previous t.v. work so I just expected (mistakenly) that episodes VIII and IX(?) would build on those.

If they were able to let go of the (often complained about) Canto Bight sequence by perhaps having Rose being a skilled "Slicer" in secret and using that time to have a better sneak onto the Supremacy sequence and more time to better flesh JJ's "Why did Luke go into hiding" mystery box.


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[NoSoupforyou]

i heard there is a new character in this movie named "Obi-Ben da'Nee" ;-)

 

[ultimatebob]

Hey... I thought that it was a decent movie. Fun origin story, and Han Shot First when it counted

That L3 droid, though... it's like she's possessed by a one of those angry women you see at an animal rights protest who don't shave their armpits. Eww.

 

[zerocool84]

Just want to clarify... The "mystery box" was referencing the mess of a plot that Abrams left us with after The Force Awakens. He is the one that made Luke run away and hide. It was up to Johnson to come up with an explanation for it. I found it plausible, you clearly do not. I blame a lot of TLJ's issues on the mess that was The Force Awakens. But yeah, the Princess Leia scene was absolutely unforgivable.

Force Awakens was part one of a three part story. Of course it's going to set up stuff that is going to need explaining. That what part one of stories do.

The problem with Last Jedi was that Rian Johnson, rather than running with what was already set up, said throw it all away, I don't like it, I don't care that this is supposed to be a continuation of a story, and basically did his own thing. Rian Johnson would have been fine doing his own Star Wars story with his own separate movie because it's obvious he does not care about moving along an extended story that was set up by someone else.

When you look at the writing credits of The Last Jedi, there is literally only one person to blame, it's Johnson. At least Abrams got help from a Star Wars veteran even if it was just a rehash we had already before.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Just got back from Solo. Maybe I saw the movie through an anti-hype train but it was remarkably fun and more or less met or exceeded my expectations.

Yes everything in the movie harkens back to something Han says or does in the OT, but that's kinda the point. I thought the explanations this movie provides are handled in a more or less smart manner given the subject material.

Is the lead actor going to capture a young Harrison Ford? Of course not, but he does a perfectly serviceable job of being a Scrappy overly confident young rogue that you would expect Han to be. Same can be said of Don Glover as Lando.

The Droid was pretty good comic relief. Not far off from the Droid in rogue one. Her lines were played for you to laugh at, and were delivered in an earnest in universe way. They went a little over the top with the exaggerated female walk, but meh whatever.

Just enough plot to move the film along from fight scene to chase scene to fight scene... Sounds like exactly what I paid for. Didnt drop 40 bucks at the theater to watch Hamlet.

I've heard that no one hates star wars more than Star Wars fans. People's reactions to Solo (and TLJ, and TFA, AND THE PREQUELS, AND...) makes me think there is some truth in that.

You know what you're getting, sit back and enjoy the ride! If not, there is always fan fiction for you to write...

 

[frozentundra123456]

Of course I dont "hate" star wars, but I would have been perfectly happy to see the series end after episode 3, although it was admittedly the worst of the original trilogy.

 

[zerocool84]

Of course I dont "hate" star wars, but I would have been perfectly happy to see the series end after episode 3, although it was admittedly the worst of the original trilogy.

One of the main reasons why Star Wars has been so special and revered all this time is that there has been a limited amount of content to the average person. We didn't get everything thrown in our faces. Sure if you were a nerd you have the huge EU content but even with video games, considering how long the original Star Wars was released, it's still relatively a small amount that the average person would know about.

Now we are definitely getting into the Star Wars fatigue area because they are only content with having movies that are still connected to the mainline movies that we've known about for 40 years now with two side movies thrown in with stories we know already that no one asked for.

 

[ultimatebob]

This does make me wonder what character they're going to do next for a "Star Wars Story" after Boba Fett.

Maybe they'll go over to the dark side and give us an origin story for Darth Maul or Jabba The Hutt

Or, they might go WAY back and give us a story on how Yoda became a Jedi badass. That could actually be pretty cool.

 

[Thebobo]

Now we are definitely getting into the Star Wars fatigue area because they are only content with having movies that are still connected to the mainline movies that we've known about for 40 years now with two side movies thrown in with stories we know already that no one asked for.

Star Wars fatigue = me. I haven't a clue which of the newer movies is which these days and I only watch them when I stumble upon them on cable ect.