Handgun owners - do you keep one chambered at home?

[spacejamz]

 

[duragezic]

It has been a while since I've done this but I seem to recall just about every metal part was too hot to touch...then again, we were really blasting through a lot of ammo in quick succession. And it was hot as fuck out in the desert that day.

The AK-47 is a piston gun so most likely place it will get hot is the front by the gas block. And those suckers can heat up fast. As opposed to a DI gun like a DI AR-15 where the hot gas gets sent from the front through the gas tube back into the receiver at the bolt.

So actually it's a fine place to hold the rifle. Like the other guy said, it's preference whether you hold it back by the mag well or up on the foregrip.

Of course barrels will get hot on any rifle with rapid fire and 100 rounds.

As for the guns at my house... well, I live in NY, therefore I can't really own much. It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to have a shotgun. But I live in an apartment and I don't think discharging any firearm would be a good idea unless it was pointed upwards.

 

[JKing106]

Just because you are not a criminal doesnt mean that you are not an idiot.

Do you really not understand why the guy in the first example got shot even though he was not a criminal???

Just because you're a cop doesn't mean you're not an idiot, or are automatically free to shoot whoever you feel like, either. The guy in the first example was unfortunate enough to be undercover while black. Automatic dismissal of charges for the white shooter.

 

[Pacfanweb]

No point in having a gun for defense if it's not ready to shoot.

That said, I don't take defense of my house too seriously, because of where I live. Doubtful an intruder can break in downstairs, and get upstairs before I get shells in my shotgun and blow him back down the stairs.

 

[olds]

That's terrible great!

 

[spacejamz]

Just because you're a cop doesn't mean you're not an idiot, or are automatically free to shoot whoever you feel like, either. The guy in the first example was unfortunate enough to be undercover while black. Automatic dismissal of charges for the white shooter.

So the cop wasn't supposed to do anything when a guy running with a gun in his hand points it at the police officer who identified himself? really??

 

[spidey07]

So the cop wasn't supposed to do anything when a guy running with a gun in his hand points it at the police officer who identified himself? really??

Pointing a gun at somebody is a deadly threat and should responded as such.

 

[spacejamz]

Pointing a gun at somebody is a deadly threat and should responded as such.

Apparently, some here disagree with that assessment.

 

[pontifex]

Apparently, some here disagree with that assessment.

Duh, don't you know you're supposed to reason with criminals?

 

[Genx87]

This has been debunked. 5.56mm NATO has less wall penetration than 12ga buck shot in most cases. Check out box o' truth.

SWAT teams have pretty much universally switched from 9mm submachine guns to 5.56mm carbines.

Id be surprised at that. I regularily shoot through rail road ties at the sand pits up north with .223. Those have to be 8-10 inches thick. We also had a steel target that was inch thick and we destroyed it with .223. Most of the rounds bubbled the backside and some pushed all the way through. This was from about 30-40 yards.

 

[spidey07]

Apparently, some here disagree with that assessment.

Those are the folks that watch the movies. Where people stand around and point guns at each other and then negotiate or talk it out.

Gun pointed at you is a deadly threat and you respond to that threat with deadly force immediately. There is no think, only do. That's what the training is for. No think, do.

Which gets back to my OP. You don't do like the movies and point a gun at somebody and then rack the slide to make sure they know you mean business. The weapon is ready to fire.

 

[adairusmc]

Id be surprised at that. I regularily shoot through rail road ties at the sand pits up north with .223. Those have to be 8-10 inches thick. We also had a steel target that was inch thick and we destroyed it with .223. Most of the rounds bubbled the backside and some pushed all the way through. This was from about 30-40 yards.

Go look at the results of the box o truth site. Old_Painless, an arfcom member that does the tests, has forgotten more about the subject than anyone speculating on penetration will ever know.

 

[Spike]

At home the mag is loaded but not chambered. The gun is not currently locked up but we have no children (yet) so it's a managable risk. Once we have children I plan on getting a small safe and will most likely keep it chambered.

On my person when I'm around town it's always chambered. Unlike at home I won't have the time luxury of chambering a round before it's needed.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Not intrude on the lives of those who do? (Assuming they do not interfere with your basic rights in doing so, of course)

And what if they do? And don't lie to me and tell me that "law abiding" gun owners never make mistakes or break the law because that shit ain't the truth. I could dig up plenty of cases of gun owners with no previous record committing crimes and even killing people with guns.

I think it's none of the government's business what firearms I purchase. It doesn't stop me from doing so, but it causes me to give preference to private party transfers. It's just my personal opinion, of course. I have no illusions about the situation changing for the better (from my perspective)
Responsibilities you say? I don't use my firearms in an illegal manner and I do not make them accessible to those that might. That's as far as my responsibility will go. I am quite sick of the automatic presumption of future guilt when purchasing a firearm.

It's not the government's business who you transfer your gun to?

Bull Fucking Shit!!!

The government and the people see fit that citizens cannot purchase a gun without a background check. So, why should you be able to transfer yours to a complete stranger without him/her going through the same level of scrutiny?

 

[datalink7]

Nope. Magazine is loaded but not in the pistol. And the pistol is in the closet not near me anyways. I'm not particularly worried about home invasion.

 

[pontifex]

It's a personal preference on an AK or AR if you put your hand in front of the magazine or on the handguards. Eitherway is fine.

I've seen this quite often in the magazines lately. My guess is that it seems to work like having a vertical grip.

 

[adairusmc]

The government and the people see fit that citizens cannot purchase a gun without a background check. So, why should you be able to transfer yours to a complete stranger without him/her going through the same level of scrutiny?

Because the federal government says you can.

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#b1

 

[JulesMaximus]

Because the federal government says you can.

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#b1

Yeah, and that is something we shall have to remedy IMO.

 

[DivideBYZero]

I would prefer having the guy with a knife after me, it would give me a chance to fight back, or at least run away.

Lulz! Never fight a guy with a knife, you'll lose.

 

[DivideBYZero]

You'd have made a great Nazi.

Godwin's law. Thread over.

 

[adairusmc]

Yeah, and that is something we shall have to remedy IMO.

It is something we don't need to remedy IMO.

 

[boomhower]

I keep one(Glock 27)chambered and ready to go in a lock box in my nightstand that unlocks with a four digit code. Another is chambered ready to go in my retention holster(Glock 22) in the closet.

 

[nick1985]

Yeah, and that is something we shall have to remedy IMO.

Watch too much Braveheart?

 

[DivideBYZero]

Watch too much Braveheart?

Sounds like you have one 'chambered' 24/7.

 

[shortylickens]

I keep the magazine in. No rounds chambered. It only takes a second to draw the slide back, but not keeping a round in there can offset other liabilities.
IF I heard some shit going on in the house the first thing I'd do is chamber a round. Not too worried about the noise giving me away since there is a 99.9% chance the perp will invade when I'm in my bedroom anyway.
He already knows where I am, its not like I have a tactical advantage in that sense.

If there were kids in the house I would teach them about gun safety rather than hope they just dont mess with the guns, which is a VERY foolish assumption.
That same philosophy applies to knives, cars, fire, sex, and everything else in this world thats dangerous to ignorant people.