Hangouts integrates Google Voice VOIP phone calling...

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code65536

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Google+ is more just turning into the brand name for unifying Googles services.

I think his complaint is that he doesn't want to opt into the Google+ service. You can have a Google account but not opt into Google+ (not agree to the ToS, etc.), and it used to be that there were things that you could do with your Google account that you can't do any more unless you also sign on the dotted line for Google+ and then go through the steps to customize Google+ (and turning off and opting out of the things that you don't like about G+).

Practically, it's not an overly huge burden to accept G+ and then run through all the settings to effectively disable it, which is what I did. But I suppose for some, it's about the principle of the matter.

It's not the same as before though. You can't make a distinction between mobile versus desktop chat. I'm not even sure what green means, that they have Hangouts installed? What if their phone is turned off or out of reach? There's no more idle statuses anymore.

Some third-party clients (Pidgin) can show you every instance of a contact's signon and what the status of each of those are. So I can, for example, see that person A is currently logged into desktop Talk and their phone and that they're idle on the desktop but active on the phone. With more and more people always signed on because of mobile devices, I'm finding this to be indispensable.
 

makken

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No mention of this in the Android version. Total fail.

Yeah, I'm surprised they didn't include it in the Android version of hangouts; it was the feature I was most looking forward to.

oh the flip side, I don't think the iOS hangouts app will be able handle SMS like the Android app can. I'm getting conflicting reports of how Hangouts will handle SMS going to your Google Voice number though.

I think full Google Voice integration into Hangout is still a few versions away, so, sadly, I will still have to keep the Google Voice app.
 

Sid59

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http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/31/5052808/google-voice-to-deny-access-to-third-party-apps-next-year

* Voice integration coming sometime next year

Not sure if OBI will be affected but GrooveIP said they haven't received a notice and said they use a Google published API for their app/services,
Third-party apps for Google Voice have six months to live. Google said today that it is ending support for apps that "are making unauthorized use of Google Voice" by providing calling and SMS services. "These apps violate our terms of service and pose a threat to your security," said Nikhyl Singhal, director of real-time communications, in a post on Google+. "So we're notifying these app developers that they must stop making unauthorized use of Google Voice to run their services and transition users by May 15, 2014."
 

s44

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No SMS on GV numbers with Hangouts.

No point in Kitkat for me.
 

Crow550

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No SMS on GV numbers with Hangouts.

No point in Kitkat for me.

Um. You won't need Kitkat. It will be an update to the Hangouts app.

Facebook Messenger does this for SMS as well.

Hangouts from what I can tell will be getting G-Voice data/wifi calling & the option to be the replacement for regular SMS as well as some IM stuff for sending gifs and such.

G-Voice SMS and MMS is slated as soon. Along with a global roll out?

Still getting some nifty updates. I love G-Voice too.
 

Crow550

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http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/31/5052808/google-voice-to-deny-access-to-third-party-apps-next-year

* Voice integration coming sometime next year

Not sure if OBI will be affected but GrooveIP said they haven't received a notice and said they use a Google published API for their app/services,

Obi released this blog on the topic (may need to make a new thread on this): http://blog.obihai.com/2013/10/important-message-about-google-voice.html (They could update info on this as they get more info from Google about this?)

and: http://www.obitalk.com/forum/index.php?topic=6867.0

Don't know why Obi can't change things to follow Google's new rules for 3rd parties? Or use the hacks others are: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r28309379-General-Google-HangOuts-vs.-XMPP

Keep your eye on blogs from 3rd party programs like Talkatone & GrooveIP....

I assume Google will work this stuff out before May 15th.
 
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