Hannity needs to go

[Younigue]

It would be huge to Fox viewers if he was being treated for an STI related to the hooker he paid hush money to, but does that justify revealing the identities of all the patients of the doctor who treated him for it? What if instead of 3 clients this dude had 300 or even 3,000 would you then be OK with effectively doxxing all of them for the "crime" of hiring him as their lawyer? How would you feel if you were one of his clients (god forbid) and then found your name being flashed up on CNN for the world to see and comment upon? I have no love for Hannity or anyone else connected to this lawyer (who seems like a scumbag) but I think the principle that privacy rights should be respected should trump (no pun intended) some momentary schadenfreude about scoring political points on or embarrassing a political rival.

Even if we went with the theory that Hannity was part of a conspiracy with Donald Trump then attorney-client privilege wouldn't apply. IANAL but you lose your right to confidentiality when you invite others to be present or reveal the relevant information to which someone else claimed privilege (e.g. Cohen can't ask Hannity to pay Trump's hush fees and then turn around and claim privilege).



He should feel obligated to disclose it. I don't think it goes to the level of something that a court should get involved with to force its disclosure.

Do you intend to stand against the judicial system and tell them they're wrong? There's a lot we don't know. I believe Hannity is dirty in so many ways a person can be dirty. If combined he and Cohen broke laws, Hannity handed his privilege to the courts to do with what they deem appropriate.

You know the best way Hannity could have avoided this? By not being a shady, scumbag who has had dealings with a very obvious scumbag, already suspect just by the mere fact of his working relationship with Trump, lawyer who is currently under criminal investigation. Hannity is a wealthy man, if he wanted to deal above board he absolutely had the option to deal with ONLY reputable lawyers.

These dots aren't difficult to connect, neither are they invisible. If Hannity goes down because of whatever reason Cohen wanted to keep his name out of things, well, I have zero doubt he won't have earned it. He is openly a scumbag... Scumbags not surprisingly do scumbag things.

The only hang up here is that his viewers cheer his scumbaggery and if he goes away Lordy have mercy, those shit-soaked brains of theirs may inadvertently be subject to unbiased news on occasion. That in no way would be a bad thing for the country.

 

[Younigue]

I'm noticing that a lot of died-in-the-wool conservative news viewers around here seem blithely unaware of the full disclosure principle that is one of the primary ethical principles of actual journalists. It seems that few, if any of you are aware of this practice? Basically, if the news broadcast is reporting on an entity that is affiliated with the network or individuals employed by the network, then they are duty-bound to disclose that fact. It's simply how this works, and one of the long-standing principles of ensuring public awareness of the material being reported, and possibly conflicts in sourcing.

Watch PBS Newshour maybe. Watch an entire broadcast. Nearly every day, they are going to report on a big energy company or endowment. At the end of each report, if relevant, they will give full disclosure: "[Tyco Baby-Harvesting Mill] is an underwriter of this program."

This is very common and you see it in writing as well in print media. It's a pretty solid barometer that the media that you are consuming is legit. If you never see this, then you are likely being fed a pack of lies. It is no wonder that many conservatives here don't understand the issue of Hannity never disclosing his relationship with his attorney, while defending his attorney and excoriating "the villains arrayed against him!" Any time you see someone here comment that they don't understand this problem, you can take it as a naive admission that they are wholly incapable of discerning actual journalism from the sewer shit that they prefer to digest.

You said this so much better than I could have!

This is why I believe so many of them are purposeful in their level of ignorance. This isn't impossible or complicated stuff to know but you are correct those who are trying to fluff this off don't seem to be aware that the news they consume should be based on truths and facts.

 

[hal2kilo]

Also known as Republican Mind Rot.

I know what CBD is. What's RMR? Not sure if a swoosh is in order.

 

[Sunburn74]

The fact that he interviewed his own lawyer and pretended like he it was a completely objective interview is disgusting. Its like finding out that Hannity is in Trump's will or something. Just a gross violation of one of the basic principles of journalism.

 

[Puffnstuff]

The fact that he interviewed his own lawyer and pretended like he it was a completely objective interview is disgusting. Its like finding out that Hannity is in Trump's will or something. Just a gross violation of one of the basic principles of journalism.

Fair and balanced right?

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I'm noticing that a lot of died-in-the-wool conservative news viewers around here seem blithely unaware of the full disclosure principle that is one of the primary ethical principles of actual journalists. It seems that few, if any of you are aware of this practice? Basically, if the news broadcast is reporting on an entity that is affiliated with the network or individuals employed by the network, then they are duty-bound to disclose that fact. It's simply how this works, and one of the long-standing principles of ensuring public awareness of the material being reported, and possibly conflicts in sourcing.

Watch PBS Newshour maybe. Watch an entire broadcast. Nearly every day, they are going to report on a big energy company or endowment. At the end of each report, if relevant, they will give full disclosure: "[Tyco Baby-Harvesting Mill] is an underwriter of this program."

This is very common and you see it in writing as well in print media. It's a pretty solid barometer that the media that you are consuming is legit. If you never see this, then you are likely being fed a pack of lies. It is no wonder that many conservatives here don't understand the issue of Hannity never disclosing his relationship with his attorney, while defending his attorney and excoriating "the villains arrayed against him!" Any time you see someone here comment that they don't understand this problem, you can take it as a naive admission that they are wholly incapable of discerning actual journalism from the sewer shit that they prefer to digest.

I've heard NPR doing this on a few of their programs as well, specifically citing that suchandsuch group donates to NPR, or soandso is the head of X program run by NPR.

 

[cytg111]

I'm noticing that a lot of died-in-the-wool conservative news viewers around here seem blithely unaware of the full disclosure principle that is one of the primary ethical principles of actual journalists. It seems that few, if any of you are aware of this practice? Basically, if the news broadcast is reporting on an entity that is affiliated with the network or individuals employed by the network, then they are duty-bound to disclose that fact. It's simply how this works, and one of the long-standing principles of ensuring public awareness of the material being reported, and possibly conflicts in sourcing.

Watch PBS Newshour maybe. Watch an entire broadcast. Nearly every day, they are going to report on a big energy company or endowment. At the end of each report, if relevant, they will give full disclosure: "[Tyco Baby-Harvesting Mill] is an underwriter of this program."

This is very common and you see it in writing as well in print media. It's a pretty solid barometer that the media that you are consuming is legit. If you never see this, then you are likely being fed a pack of lies. It is no wonder that many conservatives here don't understand the issue of Hannity never disclosing his relationship with his attorney, while defending his attorney and excoriating "the villains arrayed against him!" Any time you see someone here comment that they don't understand this problem, you can take it as a naive admission that they are wholly incapable of discerning actual journalism from the sewer shit that they prefer to digest.

Information evaluation is something that has to be taught.. hence why certain segments prefer their audience uneducated and illiterate. (In saying so I am in no way looking down on uneducated folk, it is just an observation of perceived fact, at the end of the day we are all created equal in this life.)

 

[cytg111]

The fact that he interviewed his own lawyer and pretended like he it was a completely objective interview is disgusting. Its like finding out that Hannity is in Trump's will or something. Just a gross violation of one of the basic principles of journalism.

This is where someone points out that Fox is not in the business of news they are in the business of reporting and commentary on other outlets news AND that Hannity is not producing journalism, he is playing a character. (where have we heard that before? Oh yea, Alex Jones..)

 

[Young Grasshopper]

Imagine if Mueller goes after this guy next? His office at Fox raided as well as his residence. Wonder if he would discuss it in his “opening monologue”.

 

[dank69]

Fox throwing full support behind Hannity. I am shocked. Shocked I tell you.

 

[ivwshane]

Fox throwing full support behind Hannity. I am shocked. Shocked I tell you.

Oh man, fox viewers are going to leave in droves or they will be boycotting hannity's show! Remember the backlash people like Dan Rather, and Brian Williams received? That's how fox viewers will react.

/s




Lol

 

[interchange]

If Hannity were arrested tomorrow there would be a lot of viewership that would see it as further evidence of deep state conspiracy to restrict their viewpoint. The only way I see it going differently is if Fox refuses to peddle that narrative. In other words it wouldn't go differently. I'd still love it, though.

 

[ivwshane]

Remember how the right came up with memes like, "Clinton news network", I guess the left isn't as creative and the right really doesn't care about media bias.

Who knew?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I've heard NPR doing this on a few of their programs as well, specifically citing that suchandsuch group donates to NPR, or soandso is the head of X program run by NPR.

CNN & MSNBC do it too but it’s usually during the segment like:
“To be noted X Company is a sponsor”
I guess it doesn’t matter because they’re fake news.

 

[cytg111]

Murdoch is old... very old. Lets see what happens in a few years.

 

[Meghan54]

Let's see if I've gotten this correct.....a legitimate news organization, NBC, suspends an anchor because he made three contributions to political candidates against NBC's ethics..."NBC News, parent of msnbc TV, prohibits political contributions by its journalists without prior approval of the president."

As NBC's policy states: "Anyone working for NBC News who takes part in civic or other outside activities may find that these activities jeopardize his or her standing as an impartial journalist because they may create the appearance of a conflict of interest,” the NBC News policy reads. “Such activities may include participation in or contributions to political campaigns or groups that espouse controversial positions. You should report any such potential conflicts in advance to, and obtain prior approval of, the president of NBC News or his designee."

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40028929/...olbermann-suspended-over-political-donations/


So, now we have an entertainment newsy-kinda organization that appears to have no ethical control, or wants to as far as I can tell, over its reporters. Why else would there not be an immediate suspension of Hannity over this huge conflict of interest, which in my mind, is well beyond giving donations to political campaigns, and instead Fox is championing and lauding Hannity for this conflict of interests?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Remember how the right came up with memes like, "Clinton news network", I guess the left isn't as creative and the right really doesn't care about media bias.

Who knew?

I always found Faux News both elegant and right to the point.

 

[dank69]

Let's see if I've gotten this correct.....a legitimate news organization, NBC, suspends an anchor because he made three contributions to political candidates against NBC's ethics..."NBC News, parent of msnbc TV, prohibits political contributions by its journalists without prior approval of the president."

As NBC's policy states: "Anyone working for NBC News who takes part in civic or other outside activities may find that these activities jeopardize his or her standing as an impartial journalist because they may create the appearance of a conflict of interest,” the NBC News policy reads. “Such activities may include participation in or contributions to political campaigns or groups that espouse controversial positions. You should report any such potential conflicts in advance to, and obtain prior approval of, the president of NBC News or his designee."

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40028929/...olbermann-suspended-over-political-donations/


So, now we have an entertainment newsy-kinda organization that appears to have no ethical control, or wants to as far as I can tell, over its reporters. Why else would there not be an immediate suspension of Hannity over this huge conflict of interest, which in my mind, is well beyond giving donations to political campaigns, and instead Fox is championing and lauding Hannity for this conflict of interests?

Because conservatives don't give a shit about anything other than beating liberals. No holds barred, including crying about liberals doing anything remotely similar to the bullshit conservatives do on a daily basis.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I always found Faux News both elegant and right to the point.

I couldn't agree more. I wonder if they'd be my friend too?

Because conservatives don't give a shit about anything other than beating liberals. No holds barred, including crying about liberals doing anything remotely similar to the bullshit conservatives do on a daily basis.

Gotta keep pushing them conservative values eh?

 

[Meghan54]

Conservative values like this one?

Or maybe this one represents conservative values better?

 

[HomerJS]

DAMN! I'd watch that show

 

[Puffnstuff]

Conservative values like this one?

Or maybe this one represents conservative values better?

First one it too conservative. As for the second one....well well well. Who am I trying to kid, both of them can come over and get all conservative with me anytime.

 

[Puffnstuff]

DAMN! I'd watch that show

You just did.

 

[cytg111]

Let's see if I've gotten this correct.....a legitimate news organization, NBC, suspends an anchor because he made three contributions to political candidates against NBC's ethics..."NBC News, parent of msnbc TV, prohibits political contributions by its journalists without prior approval of the president."

As NBC's policy states: "Anyone working for NBC News who takes part in civic or other outside activities may find that these activities jeopardize his or her standing as an impartial journalist because they may create the appearance of a conflict of interest,” the NBC News policy reads. “Such activities may include participation in or contributions to political campaigns or groups that espouse controversial positions. You should report any such potential conflicts in advance to, and obtain prior approval of, the president of NBC News or his designee."

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40028929/...olbermann-suspended-over-political-donations/


So, now we have an entertainment newsy-kinda organization that appears to have no ethical control, or wants to as far as I can tell, over its reporters. Why else would there not be an immediate suspension of Hannity over this huge conflict of interest, which in my mind, is well beyond giving donations to political campaigns, and instead Fox is championing and lauding Hannity for this conflict of interests?

And now we learn that WH aides have basicly dubbed Hannity as unofficial chief of staff and that he is also suggesiting what goes out as presidential tweets(wapo)..
Hannity. Hannity on Fox News IS State TV.
State TV.
Let that sink in for a minute.

 

[HomerJS]

Time to move Fox News completely in the red box. Stop pretending. Squeeze them between Newsmax and Daily Caller