Happy 11th birthday Windows XP

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http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9232879/Windows_XP_turns_11_still_not_dead_yet

Windows XP turns 11, still not dead yet

The aged OS has 18 months until retirement, but it's not going quietly into the night, say analysts

Computerworld - On the same day Microsoft loudly proclaims Windows 8 in New York, the aging-but-still-going Windows XP today quietly celebrated its 11th birthday.

On Oct. 25, 2001, Microsoft launched Windows XP, unknowingly unleashing its most successful operating system ever.

If they only could do the same today, the company's executives must think as they assemble for a day-long Windows 8 launch party.

"It was a good operating system," said David Johnson, an analyst with Forrester, in an interview today. "It was a very, very good operating system ... a superb OS because it removed a lot of pain."

On April 8, 2014, less than 18 months from now, Windows XP exits all support when it receives its final security update. From then on, most users of the OS will be exposed to attack from hackers exploiting new vulnerabilities that Microsoft simply won't patch.

That's not the only problem. ISVs, or "independent software vendors," tech-speak for third-party developers, already have or will soon drop support for their XP programs.



The worst possible scenario for consumers. Just as people will literally be forced to upgrade they will have to go to Windows 8.
 

Miramonti

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I'm still using it on one machine and it definitely won't be upgraded to 8 anytime soon, prolly never.
 

techs

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I'm still using it on one machine and it definitely won't be upgraded to 8 anytime soon, prolly never.

If you're a techy you just have to have to keep a WinXP machine around. There is so much tech software that still doesn't run on anything newer.
 

BUTCH1

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And some games, my beloved "Silent hunter 3 with GWX gold expansion pack" will not run on even 7, when winXP support ends I will install 7 on my web machine and continue to use XP to play my game, (dual boot)..
 

techs

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If you started using computers when you were 12 you could have been using XP right thru college and be 23 years old now and never have used any other OS.
 

HamburgerBoy

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I only made the switch from XP to 7 a few months ago. Wasn't until aboutt 2007 that I upgraded from Windows 2000, though.
 

Uppsala9496

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My company foolishly uninstalls 7 on new machines and installs XP. I can't wait until XP dies. They are screwed. We have thousands and thousands of desktops and laptops.

Both my desktop and laptop are 3 months old and have had 7 uninstalled and XP put on. I need to make sure I am still here in 18 months so I can enjoy the fiasco.
 

PottedMeat

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xp's working fine for me, until i pick up that cheap win8 upgrade. i'll make an image of my xp partition, upgrade/wipe, image that and i'll be all set for a while.
 

Vdubchaos

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MS drops support and won't protect it's consumers from security risk and force them into their new product?

Between this and the new tablet, MS is pulling some Apple shit on us.

F them
 

Uppsala9496

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MS drops support and won't protect it's consumers from security risk and force them into their new product?

Between this and the new tablet, MS is pulling some Apple shit on us.

F them
No different than any other 11 year old software out there. Grab any game from 2001 and try to get them to support it to work on Win7 or Win8 when it gets released. Not going to happen. Software has life cycles. XP's life cycle is up and it is time to move on.
 

Vdubchaos

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No different than any other 11 year old software out there. Grab any game from 2001 and try to get them to support it to work on Win7 or Win8 when it gets released. Not going to happen. Software has life cycles. XP's life cycle is up and it is time to move on.

That's true
 

BUTCH1

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MS drops support and won't protect it's consumers from security risk and force them into their new product?

Between this and the new tablet, MS is pulling some Apple shit on us.

F them

Not really, by the time support ends 18 months from now that's 12.5 years, I wouldn't say you've been jipped..
 

BUTCH1

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My company foolishly uninstalls 7 on new machines and installs XP. I can't wait until XP dies. They are screwed. We have thousands and thousands of desktops and laptops.

Both my desktop and laptop are 3 months old and have had 7 uninstalled and XP put on. I need to make sure I am still here in 18 months so I can enjoy the fiasco.

Sounds like they have an XP license and don't want to pay to license 7 on that many machines, kinda stupid though when you eventually have to go back and install 7 on thousands of machines at one time, fun!..
 

Nintendesert

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MS drops support and won't protect it's consumers from security risk and force them into their new product?

Between this and the new tablet, MS is pulling some Apple shit on us.

F them



I wasn't sure if you were being sarcastic, how can you bitch about security when MS is forcing people to migrate to a more secure OS? :hmm:
 

ViRGE

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There's nothing happy about this birthday. WinXP needs to be taken out back and shot Old Yeller style.
 

BUTCH1

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There's nothing happy about this birthday. WinXP needs to be taken out back and shot Old Yeller style.

Why? we use 7 at work and I'm just not seeing a ton of difference in day to day tasks..

EDIT..Now I'm thinking along a different line, that small business that wont want to pay for a new OS and the inevitable amount of new software that must be installed to make it useable stays with XP, someone hacks a dentists database and recovers SSI#'s, ouch...
 
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mmntech

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A lot of people conveniently forget that until Service Pack 2, XP was an awful OS. It's the reason why I forced myself to learn computers. It was unstable, at least for me. I'd have to do a full reinstall at least annually. Not to mention it was notorious for all the malware. You'd have to lock that thing down like Fort Knox with third party security software. IIRC, the only protection it offered was a basic firewall.

Windows 7 works better, is stable and secure. Windows 8 is Windows 7 with a tablet interface. So I'll be skipping 8. Might put it on my HTPC but not the desktop.
 

CraigRT

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Definitely don't miss XP.
Windows 7 is flawless for me both work and home. It just works, and the more I use it, the more I find it intuitive. It is a great OS...
 

Fritzo

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MS drops support and won't protect it's consumers from security risk and force them into their new product?

Between this and the new tablet, MS is pulling some Apple shit on us.

F them

LOL, to put things in perspective, it would be like you running Windows XP and someone wanting you to support Windows 3.0.
 

ViRGE

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Why? we use 7 at work and I'm just not seeing a ton of difference in day to day tasks..

EDIT..Now I'm thinking along a different line, that small business that wont want to pay for a new OS and the inevitable amount of new software that must be installed to make it useable stays with XP, someone hacks a dentists database and recovers SSI#'s, ouch...
You hit on exactly the problem. Of all the great features Win6.x brings, the single thing that makes using Win5.x inexcusable in 2012 is the lack of security. WinXP's security is a joke and it's practically impossible to properly secure it on an end-user internet-connected machine.

WinXP served its goal. Now better operating systems have come along and it's time to leave it behind.
 

BUTCH1

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You hit on exactly the problem. Of all the great features Win6.x brings, the single thing that makes using Win5.x inexcusable in 2012 is the lack of security. WinXP's security is a joke and it's practically impossible to properly secure it on an end-user internet-connected machine.

WinXP served its goal. Now better operating systems have come along and it's time to leave it behind.

What aggravates me is EVERYONE needs your SSI#, I got called for a random this summer, they needed my SSI, I started to complain, "you've got picture ID, the HR bitch can verify who I am, why do you need my SSI?,your not my bank, your just giving me a drug test". I wound up coughing it up as she would not take my sample without my SSI# and would tell my employer I refused to take the test, boy I was pissed..
 

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Nintendesert

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Apparently Microsoft misses the pain and put a ton of it back into Windows 8.
If I had to describe the difference in WinXP and Win8 its that Win8 brings back the pain.




GET OFF MY LAWN!


Whatever you say grandpa. :awe:
 

highland145

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Why? we use 7 at work and I'm just not seeing a ton of difference in day to day tasks..

EDIT..Now I'm thinking along a different line, that small business that wont want to pay for a new OS and the inevitable amount of new software that must be installed to make it useable stays with XP, someone hacks a dentists database and recovers SSI#'s, ouch...
<-----My newest of 3 office machines is a P4 3ghz ~5 years old. They aren't used on the internet except for my software venders updates and daily backups. They run SQL just fine. I have absolutely no desire to spend $$ that I don't have to. Granted there's plenty of time for the machines to crap out.

One secondary machine is an AMD 1.6 ghz. All it does is access the primary database and print. But, yeah, I'm a cheap bastard.

I would think I'd have driver issues if I go to Win 7 because of the older hardware. Anyone?
 
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