Happy Killdozer day!

[zinfamous]

He shouldn't have been forced to do that in first place. Or at least it should have been disclosed BEFORE he bought the land. That's the problem with the world today, being told what you can and can't do on your own land. Especially when it's ridiculous stuff that is a monumental project. That would have cost 10's of thousands to do.

Imagine you buy a house then there's some new rule that says you're not allowed to live there unless you spend tons of money on some sort of project because of reasons.

what does "your own land" mean? Do you actually think it's possible for you or anyone to actually own anything? that it's YOURS? How old do you think land is, and what, from the perspective of the stones and dirt, would they imagine the piddly humans that recycle themselves over and over and over throughout their tiny and insignificant specs of time while the land continues on existing for eons?

get the fuck over yourself. You aren't special simply because you are a religious zealot human that believes some fucking hallucination in the sky has granted you some divine right to things that will never ever be "yours."

Your incoherent and violent mindset is inherently dangerous. This is exactly why our very secular founding fathers made sure to separate nutballs like you from constitutional government.

 

[zinfamous]

He was dumping his raw sewage into an irrigation ditch. If you want to use a piece of property a certain way, we as a society have decided to enforce minimum standards. He could have put in a cheap septic system. Instead, he went on a killing spree and luckily didn't kill anyone.

if only squirrel could have had the privilege to drink the sewer water that guy was feeding everyone into their shared water table, and attracting the scavengers and vermin and pestilence it attracts, which ultimately results from individual "free people" suddenly and ignorantly thinking they know better than centuries of community-based human ingenuity and knowledge.

Imagine that!

Ignorance is the end of humanity. Squirrel proudly bathes in this shit.

 

[zinfamous]

Obviously that's bad, but the previous owner not forced to do this. There was a septic, it was just not up to their standards. Cities love to play games like that and change rules all the time or change who they apply to, which can screw over people.

[/QUOTE]

Why can't technology improve/faulty systems be replaced when better knowledge is gained? Or when a broken system that doesn't meet the current standards need to be replaced, to actually meet those standards? Obviously, you don't care about the actual reasoning behind any of this, because Jesus said the way things existed the first time is how they always must exist, I suppose.

Also some cities such as Montreal dump millions of gallons of raw sewage into water but yet that's somehow ok. Cities can do what they want but individuals get all the scrutiny.

How do water tables work? Ah right, another thing you don't know dick about, or care enough to understand the real story behind any of your ranting nonsense.

 

[Muse]

Or when you want to do more with your property than what was there previously... But god forbid the government tells you that you need to do something proper with your sewage (ie, one of the great public health issues that has existed from the dawn of civilization).

Nah... we should celebrate this small town hero who wanted to dump his literal shit into the environment, and then decided to go on a killing spree where he thankfully failed at the killing part.

Largely you can thank him. As noted in the Wikipedia treatment he evidently was reticent to murder people in his rampage. He was in a position to, but "failed" to. He'd had eons to contemplate the actions of that day and murder wasn't high on his priorities and he managed not to. Destruction was the theme. Finally, he didn't want to face his victims so he offed himself.

 

[Torn Mind]

Should have stopped with your first clause.

Abuse of process and similar behaviors are recognized as a tort, but it's very difficult to win such cases.

Sewage disposal variances can be granted on various grounds, and apparently did so prior to his utilization of the property.

There is just enough of a case to analyze the sequence of actions with respect to time. If Cody Docheff bought the other land and then decided that he can bend the government to enforce the rules strictly, then one can say public safety might not have been the primary issue. Especially for a commercial lot in a dinky ass town that only broke 1000 people in population around 2000.

 

[nakedfrog]

Water quality in waterways

Learn about aquatic environment monitoring measures in Montréal.

montreal.ca

From wastewater to fertilizer: Waste recovery

Find out how the wastewater sludge is processed at the Jean-R.-Marcotte wastewater treatment plant.

montreal.ca

They do treat their sewage you fucking Luddite.

Red Squirrel was factually wrong? Again? Gosh, what a surprise!

 

[Brainonska511]

Largely you can thank him. As noted in the Wikipedia treatment he evidently was reticent to murder people in his rampage. He was in a position to, but "failed" to. He'd had eons to contemplate the actions of that day and murder wasn't high on his priorities and he managed not to. Destruction was the theme. Finally, he didn't want to face his victims so he offed himself.

I'd hardly say he was reticent to kill. He shot a gun at people and bulldozed buildings without any idea if there were people inside. The evacuation of the buildings was done by a reverse 911 call ordered by responding police.

 

[IronWing]

Red is very concerned about what his neighbors inject into their own bodies but a guy going on a rampage with a home-built killdozer to assert his right to dump raw sewage into a waterway is a hero. Red, you're broken.

 

[highland145]

consider the OP when it comes to the type of mind that would interpret such a psycopath as "reasonable"

Honestly, 107 seems a bit low for a sociopath....

https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/midwest/10000-pieces-of-remains-found-in-herb-baumeister-serial-killer-case/

 

[nakedfrog]

I don't think body count is the deciding factor in whether one is a psychopath or sociopath...

 

[Brainonska511]

I don't think body count is the deciding factor in whether one is a psychopath or sociopath...

Apparently you get a pass if you're just bad at killing people.

What really is attempted murder? They don't give out Nobel Prizes for attempted chemistry.

 

[IronWing]

You gotta fight…
for your right…
to poop in the water supply!

- Beastie Boys

 

[highland145]

You gotta fight…
for your right…
to poop in the water supply!

- Timmins Boys

..

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

There is nothing more infuriating than municipal land use politics

You don't have a very creative mind if land use policies are the worst thing you can imagine.

 

[nakedfrog]

I kinda hope some redneck buys land next to squirrel and decides they want to open their own auto junkyard and DIY concert venue, with a bunch of poop shacks that drain into a ditch that runs along the property line.

 

[Muse]

I've only known one welder. We were in our 20's, buddies for a short time. He was on vacation, knew how to have a good time. He was a real cool dude, never met anyone like him.

Welding! He called it zapping. He was trained by the US Navy.

Think about it. It's loud, it's constant, it's intense. It pays well, compared to manual or untrained labor, however it's monotonous. You get into your own zone, your own space, a world of your own, so to speak, think your own thoughts.

Heemeyer, in addition to those factors, had a religious fantasy going on, what he perceived as a personal relationship with God. He rationalized things that happened in his life in terms of God's intentions for him.

All this and his sense of victimhood eventually gave rise to his ultimate fantasy to get even with his perceived torturers.

 

[repoman0]

I kinda hope some redneck buys land next to squirrel and decides they want to open their own auto junkyard and DIY concert venue, with a bunch of poop shacks that drain into a ditch that runs along the property line.

Wow, I had exactly the same thought, except replace generic redneck with myself. Surround Red’s off grid property with a shit moat, since it would be my land and dagnabbit if any city dweller lawmen tell me what to do with it.

 

[WelshBloke]

There is nothing more infuriating than municipal land use politics.

I'd say attempted murder and property destruction is pretty infuriating!

 

[sdifox]

Honestly, 107 seems a bit low for a sociopath....

https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/midwest/10000-pieces-of-remains-found-in-herb-baumeister-serial-killer-case/

how does 5 percent of the town sound?

Granby, Colorado - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[highland145]

how does 5 percent of the town sound?

Granby, Colorado - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Not real social?

 

[Stopsignhank]

What can go wrong with letting people do whatever they want with their land?

Valley of the drums

Some guy in the 60s had 23 acres and decided to store waste drums on the site, because no one could tell him what to do with his land. Of the 100,000 barrels that passed through his land, he buried 27,000 of them. The waste ran off into creeks. Since environmental laws were very weak back then there was nothing they could do. So yes, let's rejoice someone who built an armored vehicle to fight pumping his own waste into the environment.

 

[Torn Mind]

Or when you want to do more with your property than what was there previously... But god forbid the government tells you that you need to do something proper with your sewage (ie, one of the great public health issues that has existed from the dawn of civilization).

Nah... we should celebrate this small town hero who wanted to dump his literal shit into the environment, and then decided to go on a killing spree where he thankfully failed at the killing part.

The original property had no water or sewer and the town allowed it.

The reason the sewer line requirement became enforceable was because Doceff essentially had a line hooked up to somewhere on his land.

The logistics of such a small town would suggest the presence of numerous monopolies simply because there isn't enough people to create competition.

You seem rather incapable of comprehending the logsitics of a small town. The politicians in the government will also have a private business outside of it. Government can be tuilized as an arm to stimulate the economy. And on the small scale, direct enrichment from one guy to another. Here, the water company likely saw opportunity to overcharge him for a necessity.

Your penchant for exaggeration betrays an irrational guillbility. There was no killing spree. If anything, he was comically incompetent in killing and took way too much thinking for mere killing. He simply inflicted the damages imposed on him back at the town and the private enterprises seeking enrichment. Like a drug dealer infested neighborhood, the drug dealer doesn't threaten everyone, just those who cross him. Maybe Doceff was on his to-kill list, and some law enforcement, but not those who did him no harm.

He simply showed that "MAGA county" has guns, but they don't do shit against quality armor.

 

[IronWing]

The original property had no water or sewer and the town allowed it.

The reason the sewer line requirement became enforceable was because Doceff essentially had a line hooked up to somewhere on his land.

The logistics of such a small town would suggest the presence of numerous monopolies simply because there isn't enough people to create competition.

You seem rather incapable of comprehending the logsitics of a small town. The politicians in the government will also have a private business outside of it. Government can be tuilized as an arm to stimulate the economy. And on the small scale, direct enrichment from one guy to another. Here, the water company likely saw opportunity to overcharge him for a necessity.

Your penchant for exaggeration betrays an irrational guillbility. There was no killing spree. If anything, he was comically incompetent in killing and took way too much thinking for mere killing. He simply inflicted the damages imposed on him back at the town and the private enterprises seeking enrichment. Like a drug dealer infested neighborhood, the drug dealer doesn't threaten everyone, just those who cross him. Maybe Doceff was on his to-kill list, and some law enforcement, but not those who did him no harm.

He simply showed that "MAGA county" has guns, but they don't do shit against quality armor.

This, of course, is utter horseshit.

 

[Torn Mind]

This, of course, is utter horseshit.

That you cannot form a line of reasoning indicates your inability to articulate a coherent point.

 

[IronWing]

That you cannot form a line of reasoning indicates your inability to articulate a coherent point.

Your pretentious vocabulary doesn’t mask your ignorance and stupidity.