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SphinxnihpS

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Religion isn't required for a connection to other humans.

Failing to comprehend that our modern society is where it is in large part because of religion, or that some people choose answers for the unanswerable questions via religion because it comforts them is a fairly large failing. I find people uncomfortable with those facts simultaneously funny and sad.

I am completely non-religious, but I appreciate religion.
 

SphinxnihpS

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i know you're supposed to fast today, but in the church fasting has been redefined as "no snacking"

Sadly, because it's very good for you. It's healthy as fuck to fast occasionally, and it's mentally healthy as fuck to practice self-denial.

Also, crustaceans are unclean and you will burn in hell for your sins, that is unless Jesus forgives you and assumes your punishment.:awe:

(or you send me said crustaceans for safe sacrilegious disposal)
 

KeithTalent

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Sadly, because it's very good for you. It's healthy as fuck to fast occasionally, and it's mentally healthy as fuck to practice self-denial.

Also, crustaceans are unclean and you will burn in hell for your sins, that is unless Jesus forgives you and assumes your punishment.:awe:

(or you send me said crustaceans for safe sacrilegious disposal)

When you fast, do you just drink water or are broth soups and coffee/tea allowed?

KT
 

halik

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It's my 17th favorite time of the year. The "Hey, you have something on your forehead" joke never gets old either.


One of the oddest thing white people in this country do; don't remember seeing anything like that in europe.
 

ichy

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Failing to comprehend that our modern society is where it is in large part because of religion, or that some people choose answers for the unanswerable questions via religion because it comforts them is a fairly large failing. I find people uncomfortable with those facts simultaneously funny and sad.

Our society is where it is because we've pushed religion to the side and largely relegated it to an occasional distraction for people. Pretty much every society that takes religion seriously nowadays is a shit hole.

Re: answering unanswerable questions, if that works for people when whatever. They're not really answering anything though, it's more like they're making up answers.
 

SphinxnihpS

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Our society is where it is because we've pushed religion to the side and largely relegated it to an occasional distraction for people. Pretty much every society that takes religion seriously nowadays is a shit hole.

Re: answering unanswerable questions, if that works for people when whatever. They're not really answering anything though, it's more like they're making up answers.

I can not possibly give you the education you apparently missed in every grade of school, so I won't argue with you other than to tell you you are completely clueless. Like it or not you live in a culture utterly shaped and dominated by religion. You are confused by a few strange rituals and a few loudmouths, and due to this view all religion and religious with scorn and derision, and in a stupefying oversimplification assign all problems to religion and all success to science, when they are inextricably historically linked.

Even a cursory examination of the history of science would show you this: there would be no science without religion. Fundamentally they have the same goal, so it is also purely logical in the complete absence of historical evidence to assume one grew from the other.

Don't get me wrong, I am no defender of religion, nor do I subscribe to any. I'm not a flat-earther, young earther, Earth-centrist, or snake-handler. Science is wonderful and I revere and respect it, and believe in even the things I do not understand, because they are brought to me by people who make convincing arguments; the same people that make my microwave, television, and computer work, thereby proving quantum-mechanics, ab evidentia. I'm just saying your perspective on this seems so rigid and narrow ...so anti-scientific that it makes me laugh and feel sorry for you at once.
 
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MovingTarget

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As a math teacher, it is kinda confusing for my students to see an addition sign on my forehead during class. Sometimes, when they ask me what x is, I tilt my head in confusion. Minds: blown.
 

SphinxnihpS

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You made the ludicrous claim that not eating for a day has health benefits. Show the evidence to back this up.

Wah, wah, wah, prove it. You didn't prove it. You have to prove something like that. Your opinion doesn't mean anything... Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

There is a time an a place for that argument, but here it's just you being a lazy contrarian twat. Since this is all you have left to argue about, being that you lost the only relevant argument in this thread, here's 1 minute of google search to provide your wise and beautiful woman of a brain the proof that this common sense practice is indeed beneficial. I'm sure there more where that came from. Now fuck off, twat.

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/86/1/7.full

http://jn.nutrition.org/content/31/3/363.full.pdf

http://voices.yahoo.com/10-incredible-health-benefits-fasting-11621130.html?cat=5

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasting
 

zokudu

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What about red wine; too sacrilicious?

KT

At my Church we use Red Wine to symbolize the Blood of Christ and drink a sip when we receive the Eucharist, which incidentally happens in addition to receiving ashes on Ash Wednesday. i.e red wine is fine.
 

SphinxnihpS

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What about red wine; too sacrilicious?

KT

Like I said, calories. There's really no rules. A day a month, a day a week. I wouldn't obsess about it too much that'll countermand the positive effects.:awe:

And NO! Pioulicious
 
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FelixDeCat

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Ok, so any liquids are fine? I am thinking of trying this out.

KT

The Holy Season of Lent

Fast and Abstinence.
It is a traditional doctrine of Christian spirituality that a constituent part of repentance, of turning away from sin and back to God, includes some form of penance, without which the Christian is unlikely to remain on the narrow path and be saved (Jer. 18:11, 25:5; Ez. 18:30, 33:11-15; Joel 2:12; Mt. 3:2; Mt. 4:17; Acts 2:38). Christ Himself said that His disciples would fast once He had departed (Lk. 5:35). The general law of penance, therefore, is part of the law of God for man.

The Church has specified certain forms of penance, both to ensure that the Catholic will do something, as required by divine law, while making it easy for Catholics to fulfill the obligation. Thus, the 1983 Code of Canon Law specifies the obligations of Latin Rite Catholics [Eastern Rite Catholics have their own penitential practices as specified by the Code of Canons for the Eastern Churches].
Canon 1250 All Fridays through the year and the time of Lent are penitential days and times throughout the entire Church.
Canon 1251 Abstinence from eating meat or another food according to the prescriptions of the conference of bishops is to be observed on Fridays throughout the year unless they are solemnities; abstinence and fast are to be observed on Ash Wednesday and on the Friday of the Passion and Death of Our Lord Jesus Christ.



Canon 1252 All persons who have completed their fourteenth year are bound by the law of abstinence; all adults are bound by the law of fast up to the beginning of their sixtieth year. Nevertheless, pastors and parents are to see to it that minors who are not bound by the law of fast and abstinence are educated in an authentic sense of penance.

Can. 1253 It is for the conference of bishops to determine more precisely the observance of fast and abstinence and to substitute in whole or in part for fast and abstinence other forms of penance, especially works of charity and exercises of piety.
The Church, therefore, has two forms of official penitential practices - three if the Eucharistic fast before Communion is included.


Abstinence The law of abstinence requires a Catholic 14 years of age until death to abstain from eating meat on Fridays in honor of the Passion of Jesus on Good Friday. Meat is considered to be the flesh and organs of mammals and fowl. Moral theologians have traditionally considered this also to forbid soups or gravies made from them. Salt and freshwater species of fish, amphibians, reptiles and shellfish are permitted, as are animal-derived products such as gelatin, butter, cheese and eggs, which do not have any meat taste.


On the Fridays outside of Lent the U.S. bishops conference obtained the permission of the Holy See for Catholics in the US to substitute a penitential, or even a charitable, practice of their own choosing. Since this was not stated as binding under pain of sin, not to do so on a single occasion would not in itself be sinful. However, since penance is a divine command, the general refusal to do penance is certainly gravely sinful. For most people the easiest way to consistently fulfill this command is the traditional one, to abstain from meat on all Fridays of the year which are not liturgical solemnities. When solemnities, such as the Annunciation, Assumption, All Saints etc. fall on a Friday, we neither abstain or fast.
During Lent abstinence from meat on Fridays is obligatory in the United States as elsewhere, and it is sinful not to observe this discipline without a serious reason (physical labor, pregnancy, sickness etc.).


Fasting The law of fasting requires a Catholic from the 18th Birthday [Canon 97] to the 59th Birthday [i.e. the beginning of the 60th year, a year which will be completed on the 60th birthday] to reduce the amount of food eaten from normal. The Church defines this as one meal a day, and two smaller meals which if added together would not exceed the main meal in quantity. Such fasting is obligatory on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. The fast is broken by eating between meals and by drinks which could be considered food (milk shakes, but not milk). Alcoholic beverages do not break the fast; however, they seem contrary to the spirit of doing penance.


Those who are excused from fast or abstinence Besides those outside the age limits, those of unsound mind, the sick, the frail, pregnant or nursing women according to need for meat or nourishment, manual laborers according to need, guests at a meal who cannot excuse themselves without giving great offense or causing enmity and other situations of moral or physical impossibility to observe the penitential discipline.


Aside from these minimum penitential requirements Catholics are encouraged to impose some personal penance on themselves at other times. It could be modeled after abstinence and fasting. A person could, for example, multiply the number of days they abstain. Some people give up meat entirely for religious motives (as opposed to those who give it up for health or other motives). Some religious orders, as a penance, never eat meat. Similarly, one could multiply the number of days that one fasted. The early Church had a practice of a Wednesday and Saturday fast. This fast could be the same as the Church's law (one main meal and two smaller ones) or stricter, even bread and water. Such freely chosen fasting could also consist in giving up something one enjoys - candy, soft drinks, smoking, that cocktail before supper, and so on. This is left to the individual.


One final consideration. Before all else we are obliged to perform the duties of our state in life. When considering stricter practices than the norm, it is prudent to discuss the matter with one's confessor or director. Any deprivation that would seriously hinder us in carrying out our work, as students, employees or parents would be contrary to the will of God.

Basically on Fridays you limit yourself to just one meal for the day. That meal must also exclude meat. You can drink whatever you want.

The hardest part was lunch time while I was at work because a good lunch helped me relax for the rest of the day. However, overcoming the desire to eat, including the associated aversion to being hungry, increases your mental discipline and in my case, growth in love for God.

 
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ichy

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Wah, wah, wah, prove it. You didn't prove it. You have to prove something like that. Your opinion doesn't mean anything... Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

There is a time an a place for that argument, but here it's just you being a lazy contrarian twat. Since this is all you have left to argue about, being that you lost the only relevant argument in this thread, here's 1 minute of google search to provide your wise and beautiful woman of a brain the proof that this common sense practice is indeed beneficial. I'm sure there more where that came from. Now fuck off, twat.

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/86/1/7.full

http://jn.nutrition.org/content/31/3/363.full.pdf

http://voices.yahoo.com/10-incredible-health-benefits-fasting-11621130.html?cat=5

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasting

Oooh, I love it when I get people's panties in a twist.

The wiki link you posted says absolutely nothing about evidence that fasting is good for you. You'll never see a real doctor encouraging people to fast unless they're having surgery the next day. The best they could say was "Many fasting protocols are used by integrative medicine practitioners as part of alleged detoxification or cleansing diets." Here's a hint for you, "integrative medicine practitioners" are NOT doctors and the crap the promote is pure quackery. Detoxification/cleansing diets have been debunked many times over.
 

ichy

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Your opinion doesn't mean anything...

And no, when it comes to people making claims about health benefits their opinions really does NOT mean anything. People used to be of the opinion that bleeding was beneficial. They did that shit for two thousand years and harmed god knows how many. Plenty of people have opinions about alternative medicine or chiropractors or ridiculous claims about vaccines causing autism and they are still wrong. Any medical claim that doesn't have evidence to back it up is superstition and quackery.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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I've never seen this either.

lol do people really do that in the US?
Do they also fast and stuff? Abstain from pre-marital sex?

This confirms all of my stereotypes. Also you're saying catholics do that, this makes it even more incredible. Catholic people actually became MORE religious by immigrating!

Wow, same here. What a strange practice.

You guys have got to get out of the basement. There's an entire world out there who thinks the way you live is totally bizarre.
 
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