Doubtful, they probably haven't sent them out to any press yet. I believe press only got the 1080 like a week before the 17th. 1070 is still three weeks away from release.
I bet nVidia isn't sending Kyle a review unit and he's butthurt about it.
Something I'm trying to understand.
If the load is so low that the card is not stressed, then why should it boost to 2.1 Ghz? Was it a manual overclock to mislead? Should the clocks not have been much lower?
Do you have a source that confirms it? I know a picture was floating around with 3 1080s in a system. The cards would have reached a thermal limit running that high and in sli regardless and down clocked I would have thought
Do you have a source that confirms it? I know a picture was floating around with 3 1080s in a system. The cards would have reached a thermal limit running that high and in sli regardless and down clocked I would have thought
Definitely is a paper launch. It's announced, the NDA has been lifted, reviews are out and the card is not available. That's a paper launch. Doesn't bother me personally. I still have my doubts there will be anything but price inflated reference cards available for $699 on launch day, but we'll have to wait and see. I won't be getting a 1080 until the Classified is out.
Most interesting thing in that article to me is that the 2.1 ghz overclock demo may not be indicative of what is in store for most users. Many of the reviewer's overclocking results showed as much; most falling short of 2.1 and I saw results as low as 1.95. The 1080 really smacks of the 680 again, the mid range die card clocked near its limit to be released as a flagship part. I don't think we will ever see anything over 2ghz released as an aftermarket card. Likely looking at a 2.2-2.3 ceiling with a voltage mod via bios, if that is still possible on Pascal, and using water cooling.
He is making a couple of valid points but overall tone suggests he's pissed at nvidia abt something lol
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No it wasn't. What Joe Macri said was completely unsubstantiated.It was like when fury x was called over clockers dream. LOL
If you want to raise a point regarding 1080 max clocks in real world, please do so, but I strongly recommend you not to use this editor as a basis for your argument: he's been shown to repeatedly bend the truth to match his agenda.That is why I m concerned. This editor has raised some issues that should not be ignored without a thought but people are just defending NVIDIA by saying 1.9 is good too. Soon user reviews will suggest that these review samples are also cherry picked n even 1.9 is not that easy on retail units then ppl will say something else to defend NVIDIA.
800euro 1080
500euro 1070
pretty high for mid range cards.
500euro for the 1070 is too much. But even if we take the $379 price it will not be less than 430-450euro.
That is not what most would expect for a GTX 970 replacement.
I'm curious where the 67°C came from. The card is designed to run @ ~82°C and the cooler lets it run up there even at stock.
Also, just like people aren't willing to cut AMD slack on the "overclocker's dream" comment, why should nVidia be cut any slack? Why should we believe it wasn't a cherry picked card? nVidia already told us with the 970 that the engineers don't communicate with marketing. Just because the people he trusted told him this, doesn't mean it wasn't and they weren't told.
500euro for the 1070 is too much. But even if we take the $379 price it will not be less than 430-450euro.
That is not what most would expect for a GTX 970 replacement.
I would assume that 379$ will be for standard blower (non-Vapour Chamber) versions, and at best case scenario for those least known companies with cheap PCBs, etc500euro for the 1070 is too much. But even if we take the $379 price it will not be less than 430-450euro.
That is not what most would expect for a GTX 970 replacement.
I would assume that 379$ will be for standard blower (non-Vapour Chamber) versions.
Versions with fancy big cooling systems from ASUS, Gigabyte, etc will be 400$+
As for Kyle, he's an interesting character. Seems to me that some folks, who defended him as he bashed AMD, are now attacking him and questioning his credibility after he goes on the offensive against NVIDIA. I see Hypocrisy, as per usual, is strong with partisan folks.
I don't like Kyle. He bans people who counter argue him. He mocks them and even toys with their forum accounts giving them insulting forum titles.
My opinion of him is not swayed by this article even if he has made some valid points.
The 1080 is a paper launch. That's a fact. But are paper launches really that bad? I don't think they are.
As for NVIDIA making it seem like the 1080 was some overclockers dream...AMD did the same with Fiji. It's disingenuous to do so. Joe Macri went one step further than NVIDIA on that front but in the end both lied about their products.
Pascal is Maxwell on steroids. It's not that impressive to me. In fact I expect AMDs Vega to easily bury the 1080. I even think that should NVIDIA release a 1080 Ti, they'll find themselves being behind in DX12 performance, maybe ahead in DX11 but that depends on how well AMDs new single threaded performance improvements shine with Polaris/Vega.
I think there's a reason behind the 1080 launch feeling rushed. AMD have some nice things up their sleeves and NVIDIA are trying to capitalize before AMD launches.
Did after market custom cooled GTX 970 sold at the MSRP $329 or higher ?? I really dont remember.