HardwareCanucks TitanZ > R9 295X2

[altairauditore]

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...869-nvidia-titan-z-performance-review-13.html

Uses less power, quieter, faster than AMD's card.

Also hotter and more expensive.

 

[NTMBK]

The same review has the TitanZ faster than 780Ti SLI... yeah, right, okay, the same GPUs at a lower clockspeed are faster. Sure.

The review is borked.

 

[ShintaiDK]

The power chart is just insane.

 

[SlickR12345]

What? How come in Guru3d review the Titan Z either loses constantly or is barely equal with the 295x, but here it wins all the time with at least 5% to 10% faster performance?

As far as the OP goes, its misleading, I've read the conclusion and they didn't say its quieter than AMD's card, I mean that would literally be insane to say, one is water cooled and one is air cooled with massive fans.

 

[Gikaseixas]

Review fails bad since every other site that tested concluded it's slower, hotter, noisier and more expensive LOL

As for power consumption, who cares, it's high end hardware after all

 

[altairauditore]

Logically it should be slower, yeah the review must be biased.

 

[KaRLiToS]

There are limits as being biased. This review jumps over that limit.

 

[USER8000]

PCPER and Guru3D used 14.6 drivers for the R9 295X2 and the Hardware Canucks review used 14.4 drivers.

 

[Silverforce11]

Well as I've said in the other thread, which this one ought to combine.

Titan Z can be faster 780ti SLI or R295X2, for a minute or so until it drops down from its 1058mhz boost. Only difference is HWC had ~960mhz sustained boost in their TitanZ whereas other sites find it drops to low 700s. That's quite a big gap.

Frankly I don't trust their results ONE iota, because a single fan running at that low speed in their noise testing is not capable of cooling that much power consumption from dual Gk110. It's just physics. I suspect they run their card at manual full blast fan speed for benches to yield higher boost. Either way, they didn't specify a good testing methodology so its quite a poor review.

 

[chimaxi83]

The power chart is just insane.

Why? Oh because that's the only metric the Titan Z "wins" in, right? A throttled card uses slightly less power, what a surprise.

 

[dn7309]

Did Hardware Canucks got their Titan Z sent by Nvidia? if so that may be the reason why.

Other review got theirs from retailers or borrowed units, which they explicitly state in their review.

 

[Flapdrol1337]

They say in the text they borrowed it from a local dev, perhaps they just got lucky with this particular card. Or they have great air conditioning in their office

Maybe they also didn't re-run the 295x2, so a slightly outdated driver. This review is kind of late, so they're probably running a really new one.

Anyway, even in this test it isn't like the Z is really winning, trading blows at best.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Why? Oh because that's the only metric the Titan Z "wins" in, right? A throttled card uses slightly less power, what a surprise.

The power consumption of all cards in the list is simply atrocious.

 

[Spanners]

The power consumption of all cards in the list is simply atrocious.

I'm not sure there is much useful information in that graph in regards to power consumption.

Peak total system wattage measured with what I'm assuming (because they don't list anything more specific) is something like...
http://www.amazon.com/UPM-Electronic...ords=upm+meter

There may be a strong correlation between those numbers and total power usage but maybe not.

 

[HurleyBird]

Why does this thread even exist? There are always outlier reviews. Were threads made for every review where the 295X2 was faster? No. Should this thread exist? No.

 

[Spanners]

Why does this thread even exist? There are always outlier reviews. Were threads made for every review where the 295X2 was faster? No. Should this thread exist? No.

I'm not sure why this thread bothers you in any way? Does this thread break any rules? No. Do you have any say as to what's thread-worthy or not? No.

 

[Jaydip]

HWC is a reputed site which is definitely not known for their incompetence, so it would be best if you guys create a thread in their forum and ask nicely why the variance is so much.

 

[3DVagabond]

Why does this thread even exist? There are always outlier reviews. Were threads made for every review where the 295X2 was faster? No. Should this thread exist? No.

I'm surprised we don't have a separate thread for each benchmark it was faster in.

 

[Cloudfire777]

+6% in 1440p and +2% in 4K.
Whoopdi dooo

The way I see it is two useless GPUs anyway. Should never have been made. AMD made the best effort with bundling water cooling. Titan Z is not priced toward gamers. Both 290X in CF and 780 TI SLI is better priced. Nvidia should have made GTX 790 with crippled GPGPU for atleast $1000 less. Both 295X2 and Titan Z should have been released ages ago if they wanted them to succeed.

Nothing to be excited about today. Bring on the new architectures, not the same old sore milked cow.
Thankfully 295X2 only got like 14 reviews between 3 brands on Newegg while Titan Z have none. Ideally should be less of 295X2 to get the message across.

 

[x3sphere]

Maybe they got a good chip. It's not like this review will convince anyone to buy a Titan Z anyway. If you are contemplating buying a GPU that's $3000... your mind is likely already made up.

 

[3DVagabond]

The issue is it seems HWC got a super Titan-Z. It even outperforms 2x 780 ti in many instances (which outperforms 2x Titan Blacks). Even if you didn't count in that everyone else found the Titan-Z to be slower than the 295X2, anyone wanted to objectively analyze the review would question this.

Even though at 4K, the 295X2 is faster in 5 of the 8 games tested and the other way around @ 1440, losing 5. The 2 cards are clearly trading blows in this review. Of course, we don't want to compare price, but somehow this is "TitanZ > R9 295X2"?

 

[USER8000]

They say in the text they borrowed it from a local dev, perhaps they just got lucky with this particular card. Or they have great air conditioning in their office

Maybe they also didn't re-run the 295x2, so a slightly outdated driver. This review is kind of late, so they're probably running a really new one.

Anyway, even in this test it isn't like the Z is really winning, trading blows at best.

As I mentioned earlier,the other reviews tested the 295X2 with the 14.6 drivers,and Hardware Canucks used the 14.4 drivers instead.

 

[SinOfLiberty]

Titan Z is a beast!

Just put it underwater and it will be the fastest 4K kid out there...

 

[SlowSpyder]

I always thought Hardwarecanucks was a good site, quality reviews. This review goes against the grain, no big deal. There is the occasional outlier.

Titan Z is a beast!

Just put it underwater and it will be the fastest 4K kid out there...

I thought that AMD's GPU's scale better with increasing resolution. Either way, $3k graphics card + custom water cooling... it better be fast.

 

[Techhog]

PCPER and Guru3D used 14.6 drivers for the R9 295X2 and the Hardware Canucks review used 14.4 drivers.

Well as I've said in the other thread, which this one ought to combine.

Titan Z can be faster 780ti SLI or R295X2, for a minute or so until it drops down from its 1058mhz boost. Only difference is HWC had ~960mhz sustained boost in their TitanZ whereas other sites find it drops to low 700s. That's quite a big gap.

Frankly I don't trust their results ONE iota, because a single fan running at that low speed in their noise testing is not capable of cooling that much power consumption from dual Gk110. It's just physics. I suspect they run their card at manual full blast fan speed for benches to yield higher boost. Either way, they didn't specify a good testing methodology so its quite a poor review.

Yeah, this is looking screwy. I normally like these guys, but either something is horribly wrong, they got a golden card, there are new NVidia drivers, or the card was cherry-picked.