Harley Fatboy for a 68 Mustang?-pics added to last post

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There is a guy in town who has an almost complete 68 v8 Mustang and he is looking to trade for a Harley. I have been messaging him back and forth and he seems interested, I am thinking this would be a good trade. What do you think?
 
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Bartman39

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:thumbsdown:... But depends...? Condition of the Fatboy and condition of the 68 Stang...?

Which Mustang is it...?
 

DigDog

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a fatboy is a new bike. a 68 mustang can be anything between a $100k jewel and a $300 piece of junk.

maybe not 100k. but you get my drift.
 

SAWYER

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Well it is not a project, it has been restored and it original and has a v8, no rust. It needs the headlights/tail lights and harnesses installed(have the parts), needs an alignment and the front driver seat needs recovered. Mine is good shape, an 03 model
 
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GagHalfrunt

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If the Mustang has already been restored and is in good shape it's going to keep going up in value while a new-ish Harley will depreciate. If they're about equal now the trade for the Mustang gets better and better, as time passes the value gap will widen.
 

foghorn67

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Look for cowl rust. It's infamous in Mustangs. Just takes one autumn full of leaves and twigs to jack it up for life. Back valance rust too.
 

WT

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Coupe or a fastback ?? V8 can be either a 289, 302 or a 390.
 

DigDog

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Well it is not a project, it has been restored and it original and has a v8, no rust. It needs the headlights/tail lights and harnesses installed(have the parts), needs an alignment and the front driver seat needs recovered. Mine is good shape, an 03 model

go for the trade (check his papers to see if he is the legit owner), it seems like you are getting the better deal .. much better.
 

hanoverphist

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whats this stang look like? you have pics? needing the wiring and lights installed could be a lot of work left over, along with a seat.
 

SAWYER

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It has a 302. It is actually a dad of friend of my son. He has a clean title on it, ready to go he has just always wanted a bike. It is in the shop right now getting a new exhaust put on.




He just sent me these parts he recently bought






 
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CurseTheSky

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It's a coupe, not a fastback, so unless there's something particularly rare or unusual about that car, it's not going to be worth a ton. I'd figure somewhere in the $10-15k range if everything is in good shape. If it's immaculate with all correct parts / numbers matching, perhaps $15-25k tops. The fact that the "A" is missing from MUSTANG on the trunk lid, even though it's a very minor thing, would lead me to believe that it isn't meticulously cared for, so I'd be prepared to look for some trouble areas or things that weren't quite done right.

They're a fun platform and very easy to work on. CHECK FOR RUST. Even if it's completely restored and garage kept, get underneath and look at the floor pans and torque boxes. Lift up the liner in the trunk and make sure there's no rust under there. Ask if you can hose it down with a garden hose (especially the cowl area: the vents just in front of the windshield) and look for leaks on the inside carpet right where your feet would be. Cowls are a PITA to replace to begin with, and virtually impossible to do without ruining the paint job, so if it leaks, walk away (or be prepared for a big bill in the near future). Even if you don't live in an area that typically has problems with rust, keep in mind that these vehicles tend to trap twigs and other junk with water and eventually cause issues that even the owner may not be aware of.

Other than that, it's a fun platform. They're relatively light weight (2700-2800 lbs) and have a big enough engine bay to make some serious power if you're so inclined. They won't handle like a modern car, they aren't safe in crashes, but they sure will turn some heads.
 
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SAWYER

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I would say my bike is worth at most 8k so if all checks out it would probably be a good trade if it is really worth at least 10.
 

DigDog

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that is one sweet looking ride.

you gonna need a leather jacket to go with it. and boots.
 

MongGrel

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I'm not a bike fan, so I can't really say trading one for a mustang like that.

Personally with a 302 in it, I'd rather have the Mustang, but a newer Harley I can't say.

Yeah and buy an "A" for the rear if you're going there.....
 

Subyman

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From the pictures, it looks like it has a terrible paint job. Orange peel and hardly any sheen. Even if it is dirty, it shouldn't look that dull.
 

CurseTheSky

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From the pictures, it looks like it has a terrible paint job. Orange peel and hardly any sheen. Even if it is dirty, it shouldn't look that dull.

Noticing that now.

Still, even with a crap paint job, if it isn't rusty and the drive train and interior are complete, a swap for an $8k bike would be at least even.
 

Ketchup

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I like the '68 Mustang (well, most Mustangs) but as others have stated, I don't like the paint job on that car. And the overall look (from what I have seen) and the word "restore" together but I question in my head. I'd be curios as to what it looks like inside and under the hood.

And personally, if it isn't a 4-speedd card, I wouldn't bother.
 

BUTCH1

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Fastback or convertible or GTFO.

Never was a fan of those notchback Mustangs.

A '68 fastback (which was one of the best stang body-styles) in good rust-free condition is $15-20K all day long even with a dead drive train because of rusting issues ('60's-70's cars were not well designed in that regard) they are rare. As for the OP's car as long as he is happy with the 302 (and has it been rebuilt?) it's an OK deal but to make it really nice it will need a good paint job and that is not cheap if you want it done right, expect to pay $4-6K for a nice job. Someone mentioned 4-speed or no-go but these cars have HUGE aftermarket followings and a conversion to a 4-speed should not be a deal-breaker IMHO.
 

CurseTheSky

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Auto or 3-speed to 4-speed swaps aren't very difficult in these cars. The hardest part is tracking down the proper pedal setup (if it's automatic) and the linkage. 4-speed toploaders are fairly common and they're extremely strong transmissions.

As far as fastbacks, ever since the Gone in 60 Seconds remake, you can't even touch a stripped, rusted out one for less than $5k. Anything that's even somewhat together will easily fetch $10k. It's really a shame; I LOVE the Fastback style. At the end of the day, though, it just made a lot more sense to pay a quarter of the price (or less) for a different body style. I really wish a company would come out with some kind of fastback conversion for coupes that mostly emulates the original design.

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I always thought the California Special dressed up the coupe pretty well:





 
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