harmful effects of water bottles?

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dabuddha

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As I posted in this thread.

Taken from: http://www.pressdemocrat.com/swartz/17swartz_d1prerund.html



The small water bottle is not intended to be used more than once, according to the International Bottled Water Association, a trade group for bottled water companies. The plan is for you to open the cap, drink up and, when it's empty, you put it in the recycle bin.


A spokesman for the organization agreed that it sounds like a marketing ploy to get people to buy more water, but explained it's a genuine sanitary issue. The manufacturer produces a safe bottle of water for you, following FDA regulations. But the government or the bottle maker is not there to make sure you adequately sterilize before refilling.


Some water bottlers have a tiny "Do not refill" reminder on the bottle, but most do not. Most do urge you to recycle, which is an even more important message for the industry because someone is always getting on them for stuffing the landfill with plastic.


The refill issue actually came up not with a water bottle, but with those wide-mouthed sports bottles that kids take in their lunch. When a grade school in Canada tested the kids' bottles for bacteria, they found them crawling, so much that a doctor said had they found a similar count in the town water supply, they'd shut it down.


From there the concern swung into a general suspicion of all bottles that people reuse, including the guy at work topping up his minibottle at the water cooler.


The problem is "backwash," explained a spokeswoman with Nestles Waters, which owns more than a dozen water brands, including Perrier and Calistoga. Bacteria feeds on saliva, sweat and food particles left in the bottle.


There's another concern that the thin grade of plastic can break down after multiple uses, giving the drinker something that tastes more like chemicals and less like a mountain spring.


Some scoff and say that they refill the same bottle with tap water every day when they go to the gym and again while they're there, winning points with trainers who are absolute water zealots. And they haven't fallen sick. They're probably the same ones who as kids drank from the garden hose and swallowed half the wading pool.


But that's America. You still get to choose what to obsess over. But don't say somebody didn't warn you.
 

ATLien247

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I've been refilling the water bottle that I bought out of a vending machine for almost a month now... and I've never sterilized it.

I'm going to die!
 

virusag11

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Originally posted by: ATLien247
I've been refilling the water bottle that I bought out of a vending machine for almost a month now... and I've never sterilized it.

I'm going to die!

Just a month? lol

I use water bottles and just rewash them everyday. I've had the same arizona tea bottle (plastic) at home for almost a year now and haven't been sick in months.
 

0roo0roo

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i just swab the rim with detergent and flush em a couple times with hot faucet water. i haven't gotten sick, but its probably about time i bought a nicer permanent bottle.

cuz if u go to target, u can buy a slender bottle brush from their utinsel/can opener doodad isle.. for 6 ^@# bucks! thats rape...

i'd rather buy a wide mouth reusable bottle.
 

Interesting! I always refill my water bottle with sterilising, just for a few days though.

In contrast, my sister washes and sterilises it with hot water. Uhmm. . . . I know I'm still healthy. It's similar to sponges having so much bacteria and we use them without microwaving. In spite of that, we're still healthy. If you get too conscious of bacteria, you'll become obssessive compulsive and have trouble doing anything in life.

Sterilise the bottles only if you've used them for a number of days. It's just a layperson's opinion.
 

wacki

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Originally posted by: Mak0602
Originally posted by: Mak0602
Originally posted by: wacki
Did your dad ever learn about soap and water?

Besides whats the difference between water bottles and the dishes in the sink? Very little. There's nothing wrong with Nalgene water bottles, I've used em almost daily since I was a kid and I'm still alive.

Ask your dad what exactly is wrong with reusing water bottles, I doubt he will have a good answer.

i think he was talking about the ice mountain water bottles. ugh i need research to back this thing up.

update: lol my dad saw one of the Nalgene water bottles and said,"Ahh you mean those kind of water bottles, you should've told me earlier. These are fine." wahoo stupid disposable water bottles


Why does your dad think disposable bottles are bad to reuse? The ease of cleaning is the only reason that makes sense to me.

mdbound, as far as antibacterial plastics I know triclosan based antimicrobial plastics are ineffective. I haven't seen any research on the silver based ones, but I doubt it's much different. From what I've seen the only thing that really matters for bacterial growth is the presence of food (which is removed with soap and water), and how porous the material is. (Pores capture food, and allow places for bacteria to grow) I've heard, but not seen research that most woods are an exception to this rule, however. This is because unlike plastics, wood actually breaks down during microbial growth and releases chemicals that inhibit bacterial growth to a limited degree. I've heard the wood rumor, not seen actual double blind research.

ShotgunSteve, nalgene company that makes cheap, tough, plastic water bottles. I've ran a bottle over with my car, and it lived, and I've even very carefully cooked freeze dried food in one. The trick with that one is hot water for heat, not open flame. Buy a nalgene and stomp on it as hard as you can. It might not be as pretty afterwards (dings and small bends), but it will still work. UV light will make it brittle over time tho, but that takes years of use in outdoor weather, and you will probably lose it first.

GOSHARKS msr miniworks is very nice. Have you seen their MIOX® Purifier? I'm trying to figure out how it works, no pumping, and no iodine! I tried to find out if PUR made anything similar, but they don't list any of their filters on their website, only the household crap.
 
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