Harriet Miers says Bush is the smartest man she has ever met.

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
correct, i should've said quotation marks. it's hard multi-tasking sometimes.

yet, i still don't know if i agree that your quotation marks were properly placed.
do you have any grammatical reference to proper placement?

Here is one I found on Google. I have no idea if it's particularly well-regarded. It is coincidentally called the Blue Book (the universally-accepted American legal-citation reference book is also called the Blue Book). Here is the relevant portion:

Rule 1. Periods and commas always go inside quotation marks, even inside single quotes. Examples:

The sign changed from "Walk," to "Don't Walk," to "Walk" again within 30 seconds.
She said, "Hurry up."
She said, "He said, 'Hurry up.'"

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Here is another cite to the Columbia Guide to Standard American English:

A key problem with quotation marks is which other marks of punctuation go inside the closing quotation mark(s) and which belong outside. In the United States, most stylebooks and most editors follow these rules: periods and commas belong inside, colons and semicolons outside. Other marks?question mark, dash, and exclamation point, for example?go inside when they belong with the quoted material, outside when they belong to the main sentence. British editorial conventions differ.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

just stop you two. it stopped being cute like 10 posts ago.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
just stop you two. it stopped being cute like 10 posts ago.

I know it's not really well-suited for public consumption. I really wasn't trying to be argumentative for the last several posts - just providing info. In any case, I apologize to the extent I sidetracked the thread.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Bush is smart. think about it.

The left will never realize that.

Bush plays chess while his opponents are playing checkers.

:laugh:

Bush is a figurehead, a charismatic doofus with the pedigree and common-man appeal the republican party needed to win. He is not, in any way, shape or form, the least bit intelligent. At best he might be a good angler or hunter. Cheney, and to a lesser extent Rumsey and other prominent repugs, are the chess grandmasters. Granted though, Cheney has trouble moving his pieces, due to his hand being so far up Bush's ass.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

while it wouldn't put it so blunty as rbachman, i think we can all agree that Bush is not the real mastermind of the Republican party. Rove, Cheney, etc., are the real ones calling all of the shots.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: moshquerade
correct, i should've said quotation marks. it's hard multi-tasking sometimes.

yet, i still don't know if i agree that your quotation marks were properly placed.
do you have any grammatical reference to proper placement?

Here is one I found on Google. I have no idea if it's particularly well-regarded. It is coincidentally called the Blue Book (the universally-accepted American legal-citation reference book is also called the Blue Book). Here is the relevant portion:

Rule 1. Periods and commas always go inside quotation marks, even inside single quotes. Examples:

The sign changed from "Walk," to "Don't Walk," to "Walk" again within 30 seconds.
She said, "Hurry up."
She said, "He said, 'Hurry up.'"

For what it's worth, DV is correct. The rule for American English is commas and periods are placed before the quotation mark. I know this because I disagree with the rule, and often ignore it when I think it looks wrong. Following the rule can be confusing when writing detailed instructions. For example, which of the following is more clear:

• Edit ".profile," change "wyse50" to "wyse60," and save.
  -- or --
  Edit ".profile", change "wyse50" to "wyse60", and save.

If one follows the rule, some people will end up mistakenly including the commas in quoted literal strings.


Oh yeah, the OP. I want some of whatever she's smoking. Holy cow.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
For what it's worth, DV is correct. The rule for American English is commas and periods are placed before the quotation mark. I know this because I disagree with the rule, and often ignore it when I think it looks wrong.

I've done the same, Bow -- ignoring the rule I was taught looooooong ago -- for the same exact reason

I've done it for so long that, until this little brouhaha arose, I'd forgotten which way was formally correct. :shocked:

Originally posted by: zendariOut of curiousity, what are your known body of writing efforts?

Over the last 30 years, I've been paid for my poetry (small lit mags, winning contests and slams), my comedy writing (TV), and my business writing (mostly pharms and banks).

You?

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
just stop you two. it stopped being cute like 10 posts ago.

we had stopped when you had to butt in with your worthless nanny-like post.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
while it wouldn't put it so blunty as rbachman, i think we can all agree that Bush is not the real mastermind of the Republican party. Rove, Cheney, etc., are the real ones calling all of the shots.

Rove and Cheney are calling the shots? are you out of your motherfookin' mind?

 

[Tripleshot]

I just checked in here tonight and caught the title of this thread. I about ran over my grandson getting to the bathroom because i laughed so hard I amost pissed my pants. This has got to be the best reason in the world to send this lawyer packing.!!:laugh:

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Tripleshot
I just checked in here tonight and caught the title of this thread. I about ran over my grandson getting to the bathroom because i laughed so hard I amost pissed my pants. This has got to be the best reason in the world to send this lawyer packing.!!:laugh:

change your wet undies cause i think she's going to be our next Supreme Court justice.

 

[Jadow]

this thread was ok until it became english class for peckerheads for like 15 posts in a row.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Jadow
this thread was ok until it became english class for peckerheads for like 15 posts in a row.

it just took a bigger dump with your post douchebag.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Jadow
this thread was ok until it became english class for peckerheads for like 15 posts in a row.

it just took a bigger dump with your post douchebag.

Wow, personal attacks in a thread by Moshquerade... who would have thought. Don't you have a thread to crap in over in OT?

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Jadow
this thread was ok until it became english class for peckerheads for like 15 posts in a row.

it just took a bigger dump with your post douchebag.

Wow, personal attacks in a thread by Moshquerade... who would have thought. Don't you have a thread to crap in over in OT?

you of all people :laugh:

don't you have a cirumcision thread to preach in?

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Jadow
this thread was ok until it became english class for peckerheads for like 15 posts in a row.

it just took a bigger dump with your post douchebag.

You know, I'm really beginning to like you.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Bush is smart. think about it.

The left will never realize that.

Bush plays chess while his opponents are playing checkers.

Gee, you're right. But then, there are chimpanzees that play chess.

Maybe Harriet's actual statement was: "George Bush is smarter than any chess-playing chimpanzee I've ever met."

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: shira
Gee, you're right. But then, there are chimpanzees that play chess.

Maybe Harriet's actual statement was: "George Bush is smarter than any chess-playing chimpanzee I've ever met."

Dobson says 80% of the nominees Bush asked rejected the offer to avoid the grueling confirmation slimefest from the left. Can't say I blame them, look at what the left says about Roberts' kid. Already some say Miers must be a lesbo.

I doubt she was truly in Bush's top 5 choices if this is true.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: zendari

Dobson says 80% of the nominees Bush asked rejected the offer to avoid the grueling confirmation slimefest from the left. Can't say I blame them, look at what the left says about Roberts' kid. Already some say Miers must be a lesbo.

I doubt she was truly in Bush's top 5 choices if this is true.

That is absurd. How would Dobson know? Isn't it a sad state of affairs if he does?

The Roberts confirmation process was a reminder that "the left" can be perfectly civilized when the President nominates someone qualified. At this point, the lion's share of the criticism of Miers is coming from the right (including you), not the left. With all due respect to Ms. Miers, she does indeed appear to be a lesbian, but I have zero discomfort with a homosexual serving on the Supreme Court.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: shira
Gee, you're right. But then, there are chimpanzees that play chess.

Maybe Harriet's actual statement was: "George Bush is smarter than any chess-playing chimpanzee I've ever met."

Dobson says 80% of the nominees Bush asked rejected the offer to avoid the grueling confirmation slimefest from the left. Can't say I blame them, look at what the left says about Roberts' kid. Already some say Miers must be a lesbo.

I doubt she was truly in Bush's top 5 choices if this is true.

I don't see how your statement is relevant to the preceding discussion. I'm not sliming Bush. I'm (cleverly) making the obvious observation that Harriet Miers' statement cannot possibly be true.

Look, not even you would claim that Bush is an intellectual. He doesn't read newspapers. He doesn't read books. There doesn't appear to be any "life of the mind". We can disagree about polictics and social policy, but even the most ardent right-wingers cannot believe that Bush is brainy. No one else on the right ever uses "smart" and "Bush" in the same sentence.

Harriet's statement is absurd on its face. Maybe she thinks Bush is a great politician. Maybe she likes him tremendously. But "the smartest man" she's ever met? Come on! Do YOU believe George W. Bush is the smartest man Harriet Miers has ever met?

 

[Mickey Eye]

I found the english lesson part of this thread much more interesting than the rest of it. It's nice to see that some people actually care about the written word these days. I was quite embarrased while reading "Eats, Shoots & Leaves" when I found out how much I was doing wrong. And I'm fairly certain that the preceding sentence needs another comma.

As for the original post, Is possible that Bush is for some reason simply hiding his gargantuan intellect? Smarter men than I would have to answer that.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: zendari

Dobson says 80% of the nominees Bush asked rejected the offer to avoid the grueling confirmation slimefest from the left. Can't say I blame them, look at what the left says about Roberts' kid. Already some say Miers must be a lesbo.

I doubt she was truly in Bush's top 5 choices if this is true.

That is absurd. How would Dobson know? Isn't it a sad state of affairs if he does?

The Roberts confirmation process was a reminder that "the left" can be perfectly civilized when the President nominates someone qualified. At this point, the lion's share of the criticism of Miers is coming from the right (including you), not the left. With all due respect to Ms. Miers, she does indeed appear to be a lesbian, but I have zero discomfort with a homosexual serving on the Supreme Court.

He spoke to Bush, Cheney and Rove personally. I may not like Miers but I wouldn't go so low as to accuse her of being homo.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: zendari

He spoke to Bush, Cheney and Rove personally. I may not like Miers but I wouldn't go so low as to accuse her of being homo.

You're telling me the President and Vice-President of the United States are discussing specifics of nominations to the Supreme Court with a private citizen with no need to know (and one who just happens to be a prominent public figure with millions of slavering fans)? That strikes me as completely irresponsible, if true. Is there some legitimate reason they should be justifying their nomination to Mr. Dobson?


I note your use of the word "homo" - would you have a problem with a homosexual nominee (not necessarily Ms. Miers)?

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: DonVito
You're telling me the President and Vice-President of the United States are discussing specifics of nominations to the Supreme Court with a private citizen with no need to know (and one who just happens to be a prominent public figure with millions of slavering fans)? That strikes me as completely irresponsible, if true. Is there some legitimate reason they should be justifying their nomination to Mr. Dobson?


I note your use of the word "homo" - would you have a problem with a homosexual nominee (not necessarily Ms. Miers)?

Possibly. It seems more likely that such a person would be more inclined to legislate gay marraige from the bench.

As for Dobson, you can read this.
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According to Dobson, Rove said the President "was looking for a certain kind of candidate, namely a woman." Rove added that Miers "was at the top of the short list of names under consideration," but that others had withdrawn from consideration. "Some of the other candidates who had been on that short list, and that many conservatives are now upset about, were highly qualified individuals that had been passed over," Dobson says. "What Karl told me is that some of those individuals took themselves off that list and they would not allow their names to be considered, because the process has become so vicious and so vitriolic and so bitter, that they didn't want to subject themselves or the members of their families to it."


She should still be rejected in accordance with the founders views on Senate confirmation, but I now think its unlikely that she will be Souter 2.0.