Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (spoilers inside)

[1ManArmY]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
I have read all of the books, the last two several times and the movie Half Blood Prince was shockingly bad(just got back from a midnight showing). Avoiding spoilers for the movie the book revolves around Harry discovering certain vulnerabilities that would allow Voldermort to be destroyed, the movie pays only a passing nod towards that element. Given what the final installments revolve around this oversight was profoundly moronic. Why Voldermort is the way he is, what kind of genetics and environment he dealt with and how that shaped him, how he made the choices in his life that led to the creation of powerful objects that are crucial to him, all absent from the movie. All utterly critical story points.

They removed a fairly good sized battle from the end of the movie, added in a very small skirmish that doesn't happen in the book near the middle, and pretty much totally rewrote the entire script. A great deal of the time they would reproduce the setup for something that happened in the book, but totally change what each character said for no savings in dialogue but for a MUCH weaker story overall. Whoever wrote the screenplay isn't worthy of taking out JK's trash. Not that I think she is the pinnacle of literature, but she is leagues beyond what the pathetic sap is who wrote this script.

They also changed some key elements that happen on top of one of the towers at the end of the book, I don't want to spoil anything but let's say that they made Potter seem like a pathetic pussy compared to what actually happened. The romantic relationship that Harry had was only brushed on slightly while the movie spent a hefty length of time dealing with Lavendar Brown. They may have actually included every bit of Lavendar Brown from the books, in the original story she was a non important side story(obviously they can't make a 12 hour movie, but if they did and followed the book in its' entirety her part wouldn't be any larger then it is in the movie).

Without comparing it to the book, the movie was boring, one thing of interest took place at the very end to do with the larger storyline, but other then that it was a fairly poorly done teenage romance flick with moderate humor. I don't think they could have done much worse then they did with the movie.

what about the part on the train? How could they film that when it's impossible to see what under this particular hallow?

 

[KeypoX]

I would have like the movie much better if the end was properly done. It was horrible.... from when they go in the cave till the very end it, none of it felt dramatic at all.

 

[xanis]

Originally posted by: KeypoX
I would have like the movie much better if the end was properly done. It was horrible.... from when they go in the cave till the very end it, none of it felt dramatic at all.

I agree. That was some of the most important/epic stuff in the whole book... and I feel like they really dropped the ball.

 

[Glayde]

I haven't read the books but this movie differed to me from the others due to the fact there wasn't an enclosed story (beginning/end) inside the movie.

The feeling I got as I left was very similar to the movie the Golden Compass. Long movie but really nothing too important happened except bringing us to wait for the next movie.

 

[KeypoX]

Originally posted by: Glayde
I haven't read the books but this movie differed to me from the others due to the fact there wasn't an enclosed story (beginning/end) inside the movie.

The feeling I got as I left was very similar to the movie the Golden Compass. Long movie but really nothing too important happened except bringing us to wait for the next movie.

lol and the book had the the most substantial things happen out of the series... even the movie had them just not projected to well.

Of course i feel dumbledore being murdered is tied for the biggest event in all the books.

 

[jpeyton]

Is this the movie where Snape kills Dumbledore?

 

[jpeyton]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH3uyvnqh7k

 

[Baked]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan


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[SKORPI0]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Is this the movie where Snape kills Dumbledore?

that is so gay.....

 

[jpeyton]

This movie currently has a 66% user rating on RT. That's A LOT lower than the critic's reviews. Sounds like Harry Potter fans aren't happy with it.

 

[Crono]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
This movie currently has a 66% user rating on RT. That's A LOT lower than the critic's reviews. Sounds like Harry Potter fans aren't happy with it.

Harry Potter fans aren't really happy with any of the movies.

<-Harry Potter fan

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: Crono

Originally posted by: jpeyton
This movie currently has a 66% user rating on RT. That's A LOT lower than the critic's reviews. Sounds like Harry Potter fans aren't happy with it.

Harry Potter fans aren't really happy with any of the movies.

<-Harry Potter fan

Eh, I think you HP fans are about split. I know HP fans that love the movies just because they're HP movies, and I know HP fans that hate them because they butcher the books.

 

[Crono]

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: Crono

Originally posted by: jpeyton
This movie currently has a 66% user rating on RT. That's A LOT lower than the critic's reviews. Sounds like Harry Potter fans aren't happy with it.

Harry Potter fans aren't really happy with any of the movies.

<-Harry Potter fan

Eh, I think you HP fans are about split. I know HP fans that love the movies just because they're HP movies, and I know HP fans that hate them because they butcher the books.

The HP fans with crappy imaginations love the movies, and those of us with good imaginations prefer the books 1000x more than the movies

 

[MrChad]

Originally posted by: MrChad
My wife and I will be seeing it tonight. I'm looking forward to it. I've enjoyed the films so far, with the 3rd film probably being my favorite. It's been a while since I've read book 6, but wife recently re-read the whole series, so I guess we'll each have a unique perspective on it.

Just got back from seeing it. I thought it was a decent movie, but I couldn't remember enough of the details of the book to know all that was included/excluded. I certainly don't think it's as bad as BenSkywalker's review painted it.

My wife had mixed feelings about it.

On the positive side, the cinematography was excellent and the acting overall was much, much improved in this film. It's nice to compare the awkward acting of the first film and see just how much the main actors have grown. There was a good mix of humor in the movie as well. I thought it flowed very well and didn't seem to drag at all.

On the negative side, they cut a number of scenes that will be important as Harry searches for horcruxes in book 7. I understand that they couldn't have included them all, but I wonder if they will incorporate them later on as flashbacks in the next 2 movies, because really at this point Harry will have no clue where to look. They also added an action scene that adds nothing to the overall plot. I'm not sure why that was done at all.

Overall, it was worth seeing IMO. I'm curious to see what they'll do with the next 2 films.

 

[actuarial]

Originally posted by: Crono

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: Crono

Originally posted by: jpeyton
This movie currently has a 66% user rating on RT. That's A LOT lower than the critic's reviews. Sounds like Harry Potter fans aren't happy with it.

Harry Potter fans aren't really happy with any of the movies.

<-Harry Potter fan

Eh, I think you HP fans are about split. I know HP fans that love the movies just because they're HP movies, and I know HP fans that hate them because they butcher the books.

The HP fans with crappy imaginations love the movies, and those of us with good imaginations prefer the books 1000x more than the movies

My wife prefers the books 1000x, but is still entertained by the movies, and sees them all in theaters. She understands though that no book has held up when made into a movie, so just enjoys the storyline from a less involved point of view.

I prefer the movie fight club over the matrix 1000x, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy the matrix a whole lot when I watch it.

 

[waggy]

we went to go see it this afternoon. it was ok but i agree they cut far to much out of the books. My wife was dispointed that there was not the huge fight at the end

yes emma looks great and so does the one playing ginny.


but i think the books are far far better then the movie.

 

[weflyhigh]

Did anyone else CRACK UP when that potion teacher goes up to Harry and invites him to a slumber party that he likes to have with his special students?
I started laughing so hard when he said that and then the entire theater also started laughing because of me.. hahaha I thought it was hilarious

 

[John P]

Ok, I saw it and agree it was extremely slow and boring.

There was one good part - in the cave Smeagol was dragging Frodo down to the bottom of the water pit to drown him and then Gandalf shot fire through the water and wasted Smeagol, freeing Frodo. Pretty cool but I think I sometimes get my movies confused, or is the writers that get confused??!!....

 

[Finalnight]

Saw it today:

8/10

Pluses: Special effects, graphics, sets, etc.
Minuses: Enormous parts of the book cut out, replaced with movie-original scenes.
Misc: This movie is for people who have read the books. If you have not read them, this movie makes zero sense as it is a 2.5 hr montage of scenes from the book plus some originals. Also, a lot of development and other plot elements are skipped as they have little value if you have read the last book. It seems that they just wanted to get this movie out of the way so they can focus on the big finale movies.

Worth my $5.

Oh, and I loved how the camera focuses on Dumbledore's hand on Harry's shoulder at the start of the movie, rofl. Also, the part about how very deeply harry meant to dumbledore was funny too. Every scene between them has a different meaning since the author opened up her stupid mouth after the last book.

 

[Barfo]

Originally posted by: weflyhigh
Did anyone else CRACK UP when that potion teacher goes up to Harry and invites him to a slumber party that he likes to have with his special students?
I started laughing so hard when he said that and then the entire theater also started laughing because of me.. hahaha I thought it was hilarious

No, you're just retarded.

 

[JEDI]

just saw it

1) why does Dumbledore drink the liquid if the pendant is at the bottom?
why couldnt they just stick their hand in there. just just scoop the liquid out and dump it on the ground?

2) i still dont understand the meaning of Half-Blood Prince. sure, it's snape. but why did he call himself this?

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: JEDI
just saw it

1) why does Dumbledore drink the liquid if the pendant is at the bottom?
why couldnt they just stick their hand in there. just just scoop the liquid out and dump it on the ground?

Magic wouldn't let him.

2) i still dont understand the meaning of Half-Blood Prince. sure, it's snape. but why did he call himself this?

There isn't really a reason. Barely anything in Ms. Rowling's books are consistent or logical. The "R.A.B." nonsense is a great example of this.

 

[FleshLight]

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: JEDI
just saw it

1) why does Dumbledore drink the liquid if the pendant is at the bottom?
why couldnt they just stick their hand in there. just just scoop the liquid out and dump it on the ground?

Magic wouldn't let him.

2) i still dont understand the meaning of Half-Blood Prince. sure, it's snape. but why did he call himself this?

There isn't really a reason. Barely anything in Ms. Rowling's books are consistent or logical. The "R.A.B." nonsense is a great example of this.

Snape is a "half blood", which means one of his parents is muggle born and the other is of the magical world. His middle name is "Prince".

R.A.B. is Sirius' brother or something.

 

[Crono]

Originally posted by: FleshLight

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: JEDI
just saw it

1) why does Dumbledore drink the liquid if the pendant is at the bottom?
why couldnt they just stick their hand in there. just just scoop the liquid out and dump it on the ground?

Magic wouldn't let him.

2) i still dont understand the meaning of Half-Blood Prince. sure, it's snape. but why did he call himself this?

There isn't really a reason. Barely anything in Ms. Rowling's books are consistent or logical. The "R.A.B." nonsense is a great example of this.

Snape is a "half blood", which means one of his parents is muggle born and the other is of the magical world. His middle name is "Prince".

R.A.B. is Sirius' brother or something.

Prince is was his mother's maiden name.

And yes, Regulus Black (forgot middle name) is R.A.B.

EDIT: Regulus Arcturus Black (I like that middle name, though it reminds me of that Starcraft guy)

 

[JEDI]

Originally posted by: Crono

Originally posted by: FleshLight

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: JEDI
just saw it

1) why does Dumbledore drink the liquid if the pendant is at the bottom?
why couldnt they just stick their hand in there. just just scoop the liquid out and dump it on the ground?

Magic wouldn't let him.

2) i still dont understand the meaning of Half-Blood Prince. sure, it's snape. but why did he call himself this?

There isn't really a reason. Barely anything in Ms. Rowling's books are consistent or logical. The "R.A.B." nonsense is a great example of this.

Snape is a "half blood", which means one of his parents is muggle born and the other is of the magical world. His middle name is "Prince".

R.A.B. is Sirius' brother or something.

Prince is was his mother's maiden name.

And yes, Regulus Black (forgot middle name) is R.A.B.

EDIT: Regulus Arcturus Black (I like that middle name, though it reminds me of that Starcraft guy)

so the pendant has already been destroyed by RAB?

but the note says RAB doesnt expect to be alive by the time anyone reads his note?