has 3D jumped the shark?

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Fritzo

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Yeah, since people have 60" TV's with Bluray at home, they need a way to get them to keep coming to the theaters.
 

Bignate603

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Yeah, since people have 60" TV's with Bluray at home, they need a way to get them to keep coming to the theaters.

That or convincing the people with the top of the line HD equipment that they need to go and replace all their stuff.
 

drebo

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If you don't have a 3D TV, I heard that you can go to the game they'll even play it in 3D! Of course you have to rent the special glasses for $50 to get the full effect, but I bet it's totally worth it!

I live 3,000 miles from Yankee Stadium. It'd almost be cheaper for me to buy a 3D TV than to go there for one game.

That said, had I unlimited money and time, I would follow them around and go to all 162 games. Unfortunately, I don't.
 

Balt

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Mar 12, 2000
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I wish it would just go away already. Even Avatar was not good 3D in my eyes. Better then the rest sure, but passable as good 3D? Not in my book. My eyes were fatigued by the end of the movie since anything not in the main focus of the scene was blurry in the background. Hated that the most. I think my 2D Blu-Ray Avatar is far superior to what i saw at the movies.

I felt the same way. Even when the 3D for a movie is 'good' it's still annoying, in my opinion. There were a few times when I thought it was really impressive in Avatar, but the rest of the movie I would have just rather seen without the 3D effects.

I won't be going to see any more of them.
 

0roo0roo

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I felt the same way. Even when the 3D for a movie is 'good' it's still annoying, in my opinion. There were a few times when I thought it was really impressive in Avatar, but the rest of the movie I would have just rather seen without the 3D effects.

I won't be going to see any more of them.

thats the issue, if they pull focus your eyes just can't deal with it, you only can look at what they are focusing on or else it goes to sh*t. Matters less in games where everything is always in focus. there it has potential.
 

zinfamous

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thats the issue, if they pull focus your eyes just can't deal with it, you only can look at what they are focusing on or else it goes to sh*t. Matters less in games where everything is always in focus. there it has potential.

yeah, I thought Avatar was "good" overall, but I have nothing to compare it to, as I haven't seen any other 3D in well...ever, I think.

Avatar suffered from a shit-ton of aliasing, and really, really shallow fields (though technically, depth of field is really shallow in the eyes, as well.) I don't know, maybe the shallow field is necessary, otherwise the brain would explode...but the problem is that when you turn your head, you see the source object as being out of focus, rather than your own interpretation of focus. A major part of mise-en-scene has always been the depth of field--the auteur's choice as to what is important in each shot, how to direct our eyes and our attention towards the important elements of each scene.

3D makes us want to look at everything, but the shallow field still exists in the source material, so the idea of 3D remains broken in implementation, and probably will always be broken, once you parse it down to that reality.

That's problematic, considering how we understand the things that we see, and how we naturally assume a 3D film should represent the natural world, which it clearly can not do.
 
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ondarkness

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What a bunch of wet rags. It's an old attraction with better technology.
If it hurts your eyes maybe watching movies is not healthy for you. Don't go and hate the show for it. It's great! Yes more expensive. That can't really be a surprise still. New, AND more expensive?!?! DAMN!! Freakin negative nancys-
 

zinfamous

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What a bunch of wet rags. It's an old attraction with better technology.
If it hurts your eyes maybe watching movies is not healthy for you. Don't go and hate the show for it. It's great! Yes more expensive. That can't really be a surprise still. New, AND more expensive?!?! DAMN!! Freakin negative nancys-

...uh, so you think that Clash of the Titans being shown in 3D was somehow a good idea--showing "better technology?"

please do us all a favor and expose your ignorance on this one...
 

hanoverphist

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I think when it is done well and is used not as a gimmick for stuff "shooting out" at you but rather to give greater depth (e.g. Avatar & Toy Story 3) it is fantastic.

So guess when it's at it's best, it's great. When at it's worse it is outright terrible.

this is what i was gonna say as well. i have avoided 3d movies so far, havent seen avatar yet but my kids took me to see toy story 3 in 3d for fathers day. i was surprised by how well they did at the depth of field in the movie, and they really didnt just shove shit in your face for the 3d effect.

the previews, however, were atrociously gimmicky and annoying.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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technology. not content.

uh...that's my freaking point. I'm not talking about content here.

The "technology" was added after primary production--some asshat producer decided that CotT should be shown in 3D b/c it was "so cool" and because Avatar made an ass load of money--even though every single shot was composed for a 2D projection.

I don't know if you understand what I'm saying here, but because of this sudden wave of popularity (actually, people don't really care, it's just being marketed like it's awesome, and so people see it), the technology was forced onto a big film that was in no way composed to handle it.

I don't know how many people saw it in 3D, but they were absolutely robbed. color tone was broken, disembodied hair, all sorts of broken crap simply b/c the technology, as you describe, was assumed to be superior above all else in production.

It's an idiotic and uniformed approach to advancing technology. If handled properly, maybe...but art never started as a profit-driven enterprise. So...it's quickly becoming apparent that the larger part of the film industry has abandoned art entirely. Inevitable when brainless asshats are promoted to positions that they don't deserve, and clearly don't understand.
 

gorcorps

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Jul 18, 2004
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3D is just a gimmick...a way to charge people 2x the normal cost of a ticket.

If 3D is done right it can be good...but most movies in 3D suck and arent worth it...

Is your math broke? Every theater I've been to charges $3 extra for 3D which is hardly double the cost.
 
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People no longer want to see art forms move forward as art. They just want pretty shiny lights to stare at and forget about as soon as they leave. Then they can go home and watch more shiny lights, and forget about them, as well. Then they die unhappy.

Generalization!

I do agree on the idea though. most people these days are corpses or at best, tools for their cell phones. Technology is finally starting to control us instead of the other way around.

Anyways .... I hate 3D movies. I specifically had to drive 30 minutes to take my kid to see toy Story 3 in 2D! STORY STILL MATTERS TO ME! Want to be a billionaire, go start a production company and make movies with plots. You will corner the market!
 

StageLeft

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I can't tell if a gimmick. I'm inclined to say it's not going to go away this time but its traction will be very, very slow. I honestly just cannot picture people all sitting around with 3d glasses and then you've got tvs to buy and viewing angles and all that crap.
 

Fayd

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the only good 3D movie is Captain EO.

that includes avatar, or whatever other shitty 3d movies you wanna suggest. captain eo is the ONLY good one.
 

FallenHero

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I like it, although I've only actually seen one 3D movie so far (Avatar). I intend to see more and wouldn't mind a 3D TV at home.

That movie was designed and filmed for the 3D concept. Most aren't, but add it on afterwords because 3D is "cool."
 
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